Emanuel

This is actually a premium version of the 4K model they've decided to call Pocket. I guess the OG spirit is lost. This is more their production model but much improved. I think their best bonus is the interface and I mention it as actual user indeed. In any case, their webpage shows a mature and coherent product design, they know their job. Where else you find such offer? https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

This is not a competition of egos for your information. But ideas. What's the beef against it? ; ) Shame on you, you love to shoot but hate to be shot ; -) On your rant edited now because you are not the one who takes away a negative back to your private display and almost invariably have anything to add when the other side is supposed to not be here reading anymore (within the hour available from the forum software before anyone had read and properly exercised the right of reply) what about to have a better shot on what ad hominem attacks mean far away at the distance of a hidden mouse with a whole Ocean in-between, as well, ego show-off? We can also try to exchange some common field where we can communicate then? Or once my English language skills are not enough for you (I can't obviously speak on behalf of the 5th graders to impress here : D but that one coming from you is funny), what about to have some effort to learn my mother idiom, humm? LOL Let's focus on what matters now?

Let's back to topic? What do you know about what I know? Where's the scope given by the media plays on it? I was referring the period between 1861-65 FYI and yes, to put in perspective your electoral college to match such Union and not a division of states from some other discussion about EU living hard days now to affect the lives of everyone having life here and buying from suppliers based in UK as for instance. What's this episode got to do with it? See how you end out of context? But once you mention, do you have any clue on my experience with? You pop up from nowhere as self-entitled to comment anything only because you feel you know better than anyone you targeted so? C'mon... Let's give a break now? @Skip77 Thanks for your edit to put an end on more disband : -)

Let's try to put this on track or this ends as an absolute disrespect to Andrew as our host, I'd say, the man is probably sleeping and will wake up in the morning to see our mess?! LOL : -) I just put a pre-order in a British supplier, hope to still be able to receive it in time before the world may change to worse case scenario to all of us, European users... I wonder when. If they rush, who knows if this month yet?

Nothing against diversity. On the contrary. Let's not even mention when people accept to live with that : ) The only beef can just end about uniformity, no more no less. Go and bet ; ) Union is not for sissies! : -)

Why? Serves US economy...? ; -) Hard to say anything from outside or as tourist without mention when you're based on some other block. Let alone to rise the conflict of interests that approach contains on itself. BTW speaking of devil, why not starting by you? You even have a President who was not elected by the majority of your citizens... Last time I heard, half part of your country tried to kill the other half... On the leftover towards the topic, it's economy : ) Even though, there's an interesting thread open to mitigate the doubts:

Nothing to argue on that one. First part of your post. Now you've edited so I can't really say the same... : D Nationalism is absolutely against any progress. EU should never be seen as a new form of one but its opposite new way of living them. As much as US succeed to be. Or UK.

I see P6K as a premium Pocket offer. Plenty of choices never hurt unless your pocket. You also have the choice to not buy it or pick some other option. People call it freedom : ) It is beyond that. If your rights will help you widen up their strength, you have no reason to complain.

No, I have dual solid academic and professional backgrounds in film and law. For two and three decades now. I just don't buy your argument on distinct nationalities. Mere BS, call it poor narrative but never non-fiction as you wish. Borders don't break my heart at all. That wall the orange man wants to build is a shame and a civilization setback. Ends in those sad killings who make the news of "your country" nowadays...

What country identity...?! I have more from your TV series produced in US than of my native own. I had idea who Bonanza was much before than knowing how to pronounce the name of my country. Only to give you a fine example. Or the English juvenile literature by Enid Blyton or Agatha Christie without mention The Beatles in my childhood from British culture as next example. Take a look on the idiom you use. Where's the country identity? BTW what distinguishes you from some other fellow from another US state? This is pure BS sold by morons to put their paw on your neck : ) I've decided to sue my country FYI -- the state, today. And spread the news to use the tools my condition as European citizen grants to me. Seriously. The lawyer inside me has decided this today (and a doc to be produced by the filmmaker), precisely because, as matter of fact, your country is your family. The rest is a bunch of parasites trying to rule you as their slave. Your rights are the only identity you have.

What's your fav take?

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Now there's a new kid on the block:

They will be rare one of these days. I follow you... you sell one or a couple of them, not the triple sale though LOL ; -)

I had a teacher in film school who was used to say exactly the same as Mattias ; -)

I somehow miss the truth coming from your posting when you're not around, buddy : ) but don't put your high expectations so high on the other contenders especially those already established even before World War II ; -) I wouldn't buy the P4K with this one today, but once bought and a very capable CinemaDNG camera, who has balls to be able to stand happy to sell it?

Greece is the birth of civilization. I guess we all agree, our good Odin included ; ) it is as truly part of our daily life as sliced bread.

Yes, I obviously understand your disclaimer. This doesn't apply to everyone in any single circumstances : ) I've just placed a pre-order with them. It will end less than EUR 2,200 without VAT. Unfortunately, EU bureaucrats are prepping to put us buying from US and send bucks to the other side of Atlantic. One of the reasons BREXIT popped up. I still hope we'll prevail : ) Europe is a concept, not a farm of a few parasites living from people. We are all the people, long life to EU : -)

If you want a hybrid outcome, 6K is priceless : -)

Our Greek friend tends to exaggerate over there : ) Sorry, mate ; ) But you'll be able to buy in EU around the EUR 2,000-2,200 mark or for instance in my particular case other than that, I'd order from US then. I never had to do it so far, though. GBP is so cheap these days (open the eyelash, Brit people! : ) *Trump is just envying the other side of his blanket* hence this European higher price mantra only fits if you want to buy it from your corner supply. Trump, Putin and Co are trying to put Europeans to rest betting their odds on the usual suspects. Our common market is much more flexible than crappy puppets in any case, count on it : P @Kisaha order it without VAT outside your expensive suppliers and be happy with, you can say it is double price, but do not freak out misleading yourself and others with that EUR3000 figure excuse, merely Blackmagic pricing policy and still completely strange to the European market circumstances anyways, even because I suppose (well, let's say it with all capital letters: KNOW) it will only risk to end pretty inaccurate, wait and see, do your homework research first, please ; -)

Who shoots with that Blackmagic camera interface will struggle to want to shoot with anything else... ; -)

I'm speechless : ) My future camera purchase... : -)

I can't like what your post's content nails, Ed, but I can't disagree either ; ) Absolutely. Hope there always be such devices for enthusiasts like all of us here, though. It is not even good for this segment if we'll be back to the hands of industry execs ; -) I love what mobile technology is doing anyway... BTW later today, Realme will launch their 64 MP quad camera model : ) Redmi some time this August, rumors hint : -)

Computational photography, brother... ; -)

Yeah, yeah, what about the chipset? If it will be MediaTek as much as seems the Realme model to launch tomorrow will be, goodbye camera2API... That's not insignificant at all.