Emanuel

Let alone the dropped frames... LOL

Exactly.

For sure for limited takes... ; -)

Lossless in order to be named and considered a digital negative to be able to allow posterior recovery? For sure. Other than that, RAW there is pure solecism then if so. E : -)

Well, nothing to object then : ) I find your comment pretty solid, so 100% agreed : -) I put all my bets for now on the new BRAW to be implemented into the P4K to begin with. Hope others to be subject to be there as further add-on to follow.

Not exactly. RAW doesn't necessarily mean uncompressed (that is, can perfectly happen to be minimally processed) but more prone to be taken as a digital negative where information may be subject to be recovered lately. This is what generally characterizes the tool : -)

I know once having tested P4K along with and actually, I have loved it! : -)

I find the cooling system there much well designed. Sony would have something to learn with them ; ) Don't compare 4" with 5" camera screens, they are a hell of a difference! : -)

I surely share some viewpoints with you. The buttons and wheels are intimidating... LOL I even avoid them going with the touchscreen commands as much as I can, keeping them as new as possible : D Even though not as far as form factor concerns. It is unfair to infer they didn't give their best to design the best hybrid motion picture camera that's what this P4K is. Seems a DSLR with the mirrorless weight. Something RED hasn't offered to us with their DSMC system. No matter their good intentions. What's exactly the beef here? We have an adage which says the issue is where? Trousers or arse?! I told you there is at least one gimbal manufacturer who is able to let you have 1.2 kg of gear to capably stabilize the best form factor out there. BTW I've always dreamed to shoot perfect motion holding a film stills camera in hands instead. That's what I feel with this tool. No other camera has succeeded before. Either 5D II/III/IV (with the exception of ML & 1DC maybe but at expense of how unreliable a hack may end to be or double of the weight and what price when released for the 2nd case) or MFT / APS-C / the most recent FF series by other major players have failed to give you such combo IMO. Without mention the price target ; )

Seems more info will be arriving along this NAB... from our @DaveAltizer :

Don is one of my/our good fellows here. Just stubborn like hell : D He never shot with one or he would arrive to the same conclusion as I've arrived. Today as for instance. I brought with me literally inside my pocket my GX80 for a family's celebration in a restaurant. Great monochrome output BTW. When arrived to home for the second part, I immediately changed for my fav cam ever: the new P4K. I completely missed how ease is to set up and shoot. A pleasure to be with. The more I shoot the more I regret to not have it a few years earlier. It is a perfect device to me and definitely to everyone who starts shooting with one. @webrunner5 dare yourself to buy one mate and you'll never desire to replace it. Mark my words : -) 4592 x 2584 JPEG shot on GX80 1920 x 1080 grab from ProRes PXY shot on P4K 25fps aka 25p Both straight out of the camera with zero grading. Still room for any doubts? When you come from an intuitive menu like the P4K is to a much complicated BORING menu of these small digital devices you promise to yourself to never underestimate these Aussie goodfellas... LOL

REDCODE is compressed RAW for a dozen years, no one has complained in Hollywood included... Do you? :X

Hence to limit myself to dream about... ; ) Either way, still a milestone this upgrade no matter what : -)

Nice to know : ) Wish 4K60p might be a reality as well...

Don, I have used the camera strictly for personal usage so far with a simple manual lens coupled to it. Reliable focus assist reminds me I will never want to shoot in a smaller monitoring (non-)capability size. And zero need for a rig, actually. On the contrary. Take a look on my work you can follow from my signature. The projects I participate either as producer or/and shooter take a few years before to see the light. Trust my input though: This is the best camera ever designed and manufactured. I deal with these devices for thirty years today. It is not only the IQ, the way the light is handled by sensor, codecs from ProRes to RAW in-camera more than mere range of specs as single promises to sell straight out the paper, also the color science, the ease of use as much as any photo camera for decades, form factor and ergonomics then, so everything. I am completely sold. You should know how skeptical I was on their business policies before. E : -)

You can use triple V90, CFast and SSD on P4K, as well, there's nothing you have on GH5s you don't have along with the new Pocket. Well, you won't have the superior set of codecs -- RAW included, a way more effective and useful 5" monitoring tool, without mention an intuitive interface capable of better results you're just missing because you'd rather deny to yourself the experience you refuse to replace the usual myth with, the one you insist to keep spreading over these pages. E : -)

First production units in the end of March as far as they say: "Panasonic Announces Additional Key Functions for the New Full-frame Mirrorless Camera at CES 2019 Las Vegas, NV (January 7, 2019) – Following an announcement at Photokina 2018, Panasonic will unveil additional key features of the new LUMIX S full-frame mirrorless cameras at CES 2019. The LUMIX S full-frame mirrorless cameras and lenses will be available at the end of March 2019.* A Whole New Style of Photo Expression High Dynamic Range Still Photo – HLG Photo Mode HLG Photo allows images to be shot with a wider dynamic range. By reproducing both glaring lights and dark shadows that are likely to be overexposed or underexposed, the Lumix S achieves rich, precise color expression as close as possible to visual memory. 43rumors HLG Photos are produced as an HSP file. The user can play back these vibrant images on the latest Panasonic HLG-compliant 4KTV via HDMI cable connection or other HLG- compliant devices. It is also ideal for photographers’ photo presentations. Stunning Details with a Realistic Sensation High Resolution Mode Taking advantage of the Body Image Stabilizer. (I.S.) mechanism, eight consecutive images are automatically shot while shifting the sensor. These eight images are synthesized into a single image by the new Venus Engine, which boasts high-speed signal processing. Precise details are faithfully reproduced to be saved as a beautiful, highly realistic image. This mode is ideal for shooting natural landscapes or fine art objects with delicate details. Considering situations where moving subjects are included in the scene, sub options are available to suppress motion blur, so photographers can use this mode the same as shooting in a normal photo shooting mode. *Availability date may vary depending on the sales area •Design and specifications are subject to change without notice."

On your GH5s remark Don, it is not a better camera at all. Funny the fact just a couple of hours ago I was talking with a GH5/GH5s owner complaining about the fact he needs to wait for March at his best estimated date to own a much superior camera like P4K effectively is, despite so many similarities both camera models share. This Panasonic owner has tested my unit BTW. I find some advantages with Panasonic anyway, amongst them, a solid manufacturer like this major player is. Don't ignore the excellence of a professional service from these Aussies to begin with. I don't compare them with those found with the BMD output. Let alone their superior color science. To my book, much beyond that, actually. We can call it further cinematography and camera design sciences as well. There's life out there : ) People who don't live to show off footage from forum posts. Such activity doesn't pay our bills : )) You're just stuck to some other production values you've found in a few stuff shot over there. BMD have their own marketing footage and shooters in their payroll. You or anyone else here can only complain but to them. I stand every Jim's single comma up here. It is simply unreal and inaccurate any different : -)

The most funny is people who don't have clue what they're talking about speak like an authority. This doesn't happen with expensive gear, obviously. Here's the whole difference : -)

In one hour... https://www.43rumors.com/you-can-follow-the-panasonic-ces-live-stream-at-10am-las-vegas-time/ @BTM_Pix this forum without your hilarious comments would be a boring place : -)

There are hybrid photo and motion picture cameras, I'd much rather shoot with the best of latter ones ; -)

Once hybrid tools are the logic behind this community I don't see anything bad on this list so cameras like Z cam E2 have trouble to overcome their own market segment, even though no camera beats the honorable mention added there, reason why that honor dock also has its place. I even much appreciate Andrew's eye and doesn't seem to me rather important that or other order less or more randomly to speak frankly. Nice to know I am not alone to the arrival over similar findings. I just feel to note IMHO, P4K is the best camera not only to be part of a year's top list, but ever designed and produced so far. I'd also drop my bell to attribute a 2nd honor medal for the Osmo Pocket. No other tool had offered such thing in the camera history. Two game changers. The hybrids are far away to be. Let's not forget GH5 did it a year earlier. That said, hope no one may end as unlucky to receive Fujis from same batch of @DBounce's units. Just my 0.2 cents, Emanuel : -)

Not exactly... But Thunderbolt. https://mi.ingrammicro.com/_layouts/CommerceServer/IM/ProductDetails.aspx?id=MI01@@9600@@10@@8W3085

LOL Don : ) Sure, still in the hangover of last night : D Well, take a look in the one I bought to handle the proxies : P Happy New Year! E ; -)