Emanuel

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80960#p448594 Or something like this? https://www.gridaccessories.com/products/grid-5-0-viewfinder/ ; ) LOL : -) As said to our Greek fellow, I'll be able to post in a few days the best solution for P4K IMO. Much better than any heavier other one indeed : -)

Correct. People have no idea what they say. E : -)

I don't see how Netflix is over. We always had Production - Distribution - Exhibition. The latter two rule this industry.

They surely invested their R&D in this form factor. Not strange at all. Good sign they're going in the right direction. It would be strangely bad if they would show a new design each new launch. The hardware must be limited to 4K 60p. Pity not possible 4K 60p to compete with P4K, unless they're protecting their slowmotion offer.

@webrunner5 @mercer As you see I am not alone on my findings... how could I be claiming them as universal truths then? ; ) Just to not be accused to be trolling over this thread, here we go with some combo to invariably point out the proof is in the pudding: "Z CAM E2 4K H.265 120fps to 25fps Shot in ISO 160, 180° Shutter Zlog2 Graded with Zcam colour, Lumetri Color and Film convert. Other equipment includes: DJI Ronin MX Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 Art with Metabones Wide open Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/4 CineMorph Mod Filter for anamorphic effect SLR Magic Variable ND Tilta Nucleus-M Wireless Follow Focus System" source: vimeo page

I respect everyone here, you included obviously. You should know this. Did you ever infer your contribution is not welcome by anyone here? I don't think so. I just protested with this post of yours. I know your posting because I am your reader. You as writer should value all your readers hehe Well, I also think it should be useless to write we've shared along our presence some of POVs expressed over these boards, so all this ends to be helpless. Really. Thanks, to you too, E : -) PS on your quote not yet answered: where did you get I don't own a GH5? I've had several mirroless MFT units (9 units as of now amongst the different versions). GH5 is BTW the fav cam of one of my partners. I stated about X-H1 the goodies we've found with the X-T3 except they could come only in one, so waiting for X-H2. Rumors hint we won't have it next year. I wouldn't post but once you browse on internet where anyone can proclaim BS and because there's no rule without exception, here you @mercer have with the serial number included:

Yes, I took it personally. Besides I could even end to be harsh with Don and I didn't. Never with him BTW. Especially when you look like to pop up here to defend him rather than usually me, I guess I am entitled to ask you where you've been when he has been attacked in this same forum and to notice your defense has only settled down now to add your ad hominem attack addressed to me or maybe you and me we just don't share identical camera purchase choices... haha I didn't even want to adopt a condescending tone with him for several reasons, one of them I really like him. I even miss him when he's not around. Only because when I read this camera is very hard to use, this shows up the person (whoever is) has no clue what is telling about. How to say it without offending someone you care? These forums can be rather misleading because people who don't use a tool for reasons of their own start to post fake facts in disguise of mere unfounded opinions. You seem to have fear to stop giving excuses to yourselves for a good chance to see by your own this tool and Resolve don't bite ; -)

Stop Glenn, don't come here to try to put some conflict between me and Don. We have a friendly communication, sorry to bother you if it is the case. His point is not valid because he speaks about something he doesn't know. I guess it is not his intention, but he can mislead who reads his comments on his unfounded perspective about something he never tested. BTW, what about you? DId you ever put your hands in one? Or will you also come here to shoddily preach that's very hard to shoot with this acquisition device?! ; ) My point is from someone who owns the camera, yes. What do you think? I owe you something to post anything to prove to anyone here or anywhere else? I pay my bills, dude. And to follow up this input now from yours, sit down while you wait : D You get what your deeds ask, my fellow of boards. It is rather pathetic this post of yours and such invective against my standpoint. Any beef against my persona, dandy? Perhaps because of posts like yours or not, you don't read Jon's posts anymore these days over us. Something I can tell you though. I am not here to write to someone what I am not able to tell him quite directly face to face in the real world. I am all yours. You can start to write me to my inbox. You're welcome to meet me wherever you want. I can even bring my stuff with me just for the case you want to inspect the foundations of my argument. In real life, man, not invariably behind a keyboard like I see some silly comments from people who simply have no clue what they're telling about. All my point, cowboy : ) Yours? On topic, you'll never see me to bash whatever cam out there my options. You'll never see me to defend there's no use for other cameras as your post infers and misleads any casual reader and the whole thing. I would dare to write I cannot say the same about your usual condescending tone anyway, when someone has a strong point beyond the lines posted here. Sorry me if this my post looks like too harsh -- written speech is what it is (ain't you used to claim over these pages you're a writer?!) : P but you really pissed me off now with this entry of yours. I basically dislike ANY distortion of facts. You have nothing to add from your experience for the subject matter, i.e., your yadda yadda is just BS in disguise. Yours sincerely, Emanuel

OBJECTION : ) It is not. There's no pain at all to use it. ON THE CONTRARY. Where have you gotten that idea? Because of the superior set of codecs? You're acting like you could say to have a million dollars in the bank account is PITA, I'd rather have a grand instead LOL For your own sake, Don, stop this nonsense. You have zero of experience with this camera. Anyone to read you with that pic profile : D will certainly believe you. That's not a good service to the truth at all! : -)

Trust me P4K came to be with us for a longer stay. I know I am not wrong when I easily got this what 5DII was a decade ago. Don't be afraid of that RAW and Resolve high requirements. The most innovative to me along this new tool is how easy is to extract a lovely picture SOC. Import the LUT of your liking and be happy to quickly manage WB at your taste just in a few seconds. Don't be skeptic with my take, mark my words, I am your friend, this is the camera you've ever dreamed for all those outdated decades now : -)

OK, I don't mind. I am behind the times then... LOL I'm still believing people are able to appreciate a fine outcome. Art and science don't change their paradigms. As much as diversity, richness... Because other than that risks to end in the instant you watch it. This fashionable outcome ends already outdated nearly the same as every poor electronic look from 80s analog or 90s digital video today. HD has resisted but even HDCAM then looked like acceptable, it is underwhelmed with these up to nowadays 12-13 stop tools at least. I still stand DR and superior bit rate codecs able to manage superior color science coupled to unique glass qualities such as bokeh is (take a look at the best from Osmo Pocket closeups as for instance, not the oversharpened edges hyperinflated to the limit to become pretty nasty to the visual perception fully artifacted), they are the best way you have the future proof in your hands. Throwaway resistant ; -) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/artifact "(...) Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element. A structure or finding in an experiment or investigation that is not a true feature of the object under observation, but is a result of external action, the test arrangement, or an experimental error. (...)"

Yes, 4K 120p offers good looking footage for sure. But that sample here? C'mon mate, that's simply rubbish, it doesn't bring any justice to this device : ) Instead you underestimate much better examples from P4K. What's up with you and your self-trolling behavior lately? You say P4K is hard to work with. You have no immediately funds for. You need to buy something to buy anything else. You praise any mediocre outcome you see on your pretentious loved ones?! We all know this camera is unique with 4K 120p, genlock open door to distinguish her to begin with, but... Never shot with one yet. I bet it is another camera league though. I just claim perspective to you, my friend, focus on objectivity for your own sake. Some other poster could make my silence. You count to me : -)

Multiply per x0.7 + x2, you'll have your 35mm equivalent. 24mm (once in your first example, you won't be able to use a focal reducer) and 28mm respectively for both glass cases you mention. Don't forget you'll have one full stop more of light at least.

What's the trick then?

Demand, all about demand...

How long? Where? From NAB floor? I have no need for because I have one unit sit here at my side. You instead... : ) Price wise...? LOL Unless you want to genlock two units, you want to take advantage from H.265 or 4K 120p. Other than that, my friend... ; ) Correct. Not will nor price target in the first case. At what mark? $4,500? Agreed, finally... ; -)

Not really. These cameras are much user friendly. Easier to shoot with one than with any mirrorless camera these days. Boring automated devices fully messed up IMO. P4K seems an old film stills camera centered on ISO & WB controls but for motion picture in hybrid age. HFR or not + shutter at the distance of a button or alike without forgetting the best of the digital world: zebras and focus assist. Not even need for other tools very easy to get from the most intuitive menu I've ever found in a camera and you can set off by default. Set up your lens aperture and that's it. You can even select a LUT of your preference. Import anything you want. Lots of free stuff out there BTW. A breeze, my friend. What else a shooter can ask? Test one Don to begin with ; ) E : -)

In this Christmas eve, a brother of mine who is self-centered in still photography quoted this MFT format as the most versatile ever for motion picture because of glass options. I second all that with an extra add-on to his comment, my known perspective as well. The most affordable path a filmmaker can find. The indie tool per excellence. Coppola's dream 3-4 decades ago. For somewhat reason he ended to choose the GH2 over Alexa & RED, I guess. Much of these manufacturers (with their respective departments line) work on Saturday and can even surprise you to answer along their Sundays. Without mention they are competently responsive. Pretty impressive : -)

Although, not enough to convince you to join us Pocket 4K lovers ; ) Yet. LOL This Z Cam E2 is the only one closer to match. Pity they didn't add a 5-inch monitor for 50% plus. May they build a worldwide support channel like BMD, they would be able to compete with then.

Exactly. Even though their best to change that with a new update on their infamous autofocus performance. Better today.

@webrunner5 Wrong again Don, I am teetotal : ) LOL I just try to match your metonymies : -P

Right. You took my own standpoint in your words : ) On the leftover, take it as a woman with a modest academic background. She can give you what the PhD girl surely won't. Peace of mind when you'll plan your vacations with ; -)

Everything you say it is correct. Certain truths concur as well though. You may have no need of a much higher bit rate and better codec or a larger and more useful monitor experience for example. These or those features are yet there. Z Cam E2 4K/120p, as for instance. No matter they fit your cup of tea or not. Impossible to ignore or underestimate them. I just make mention for the sake of objectivity, regardless personal tastes or affections of your/my/their own : -)

But this applies to every case, isn't it? Where the Osmo Pocket can be the only one to fit your pocket where the Arri doesn't serve to even open the Pelican case, isn't it? I mean for most usual situations where continuous autofocus as said and for instance won't help you anything, one is preferred over the other. People focus in nonexistent or insignificant issues to justify to themselves to be out of the boat for some other reason : -)

I have used both. It is not in any aspect. I'd even dare to say coupled to a gimbal, go figure, if AF hadn't been updated.