Emanuel

I understand the point and there are a few several sacred cows as always in such an old country, Martinez knows he is working in Salazar's land so better to not touch in the furniture he found when arrived, it's more or less the way it works but not necessarily CR7 related. I guess he is more in focus from outside for real who see him greater than the country itself/ourselves and under a nationwide attention, when Vitinha goes to bench, Rafael Leão follows but the men of United and City stand no matter their shape, just as an example. Hope France will repeat 2016 hehe ; ) and good luck to England for a safe next match then... :- )

*aesthetics (but yes, it is or sounds an ethical trouble no less LOL ; )

What should not surprise me in these boards is the fact people come here to comment the personal taste or choice of this or that shooter -- usually non-professional users (I mean the people publishing videos on YT, not exactly who addresses or writes here about it). This has little to no sense to me. I'd understand it when aethetics is the topic. But sincerely, along these pages? When the reason to be here is the thread of this or that particular capture device? The purpose is the discussion of the features and potentiality of a given tool, not the way one or another individual took it in or for this or that stated situation. On this specific piece of technology: 1) Is its sharpness outcome anything you'll be unable to overcome to begin with? 2) Is its tiny sensor size and form factor a limitation of its own as far as IQ concerns? 3) Is its temporal and spatial noise acceptable for the aim of its use, i.e., how it looks when exposed or/and how about its much desired low light performance too for people using it exclusively with available light? 4) How compares with its predecessors and current competitors? 5) What kind of integration is possible to extend with other add-ons, filter accessories, stabilization helpers, the case of a gimbal built-in here, how many other camera suppliers offer the same?? ; ) This is what matters in the end. All the rest is pure noise with apparently no fix to me ;- ) - EAG :- )

Tools nowadays are each day more irrelevant, any device can offer practically in this industry in 2024 the Holy Grail with the current technology. What is the non-approved cameras mantra, after all? ; ) Overheating issues? LOL This craft is much more skills-driven than ever before into digital age since 10-bits 4:2:2 when not raw has become the norm for the light and colour science's sake, no matter how poor the audiences or the filmmakers enrich their show off... ;- )

WOW What a goalkeeper... and what a national pride the way we realise a new real sporting hero is your fellow-countryman! «Portugal’s Diogo Costa became the first goalkeeper to save three penalties in a UEFA European Championship penalty shoot-out. He is the first goalkeeper not to concede in a EURO shoot-out.» https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/news/028f-1b444b669763-02cf9eef0516-1000--portugal-0-0-slovenia-aet-3-0-pens-diogo-costa-heroics-take-/

Of course, the filters are part of the cinematography process... Often people talk about like only SOOC is legit and the use of filters or post are mere tricks WTH the pudding stuff is the secret sauce of this craft not else BTW ; ) and you can make with mere skills the Osmo Pocket look like a cinema camera no matter how sharp outcome gives to you ;- )

https://petapixel.com/2023/09/21/behold-the-power-of-sony-clear-image-zoom-a-feature-nobody-talks-about/ Sony has it. Anything similar anywhere else along other brands? Upcoming Z6 III price with no taxes in Japan has placed me thinking on letting down a FX30 purchase on works... for mostly 4K100p nowadays and who knows 3D stereography applications later on... When I was already dreaming with my MFT anamorphics coupled to a regular adapter, oh gosh what cruel world this camera industry and their releases can be! LOL : ) Without mention 10 bits 4:2:2 can do the trick. On the other side, this is something I find it as some delightful playground. Power zoom lenses can be used on both via Megadap ETZ21, so that's practically the same for that regard. GX85 is my favourite form factor on handheld, so the closer the better, hence this thread other than the main topic up there: https://camerasize.com/compare/#925,895 I never understood why viewfinder is any of a trouble when the proper accessory can easily handle it. Modular is my bedside table mantra instead ; ) Any input is welcome! :- )

haha That clinical eye of kye! ; ) Well, I think the question is more towards what we can identify as the usable/acceptable terms or not, isn't it? :- )

Here you have an example of it :- )

How did you guess? ; ) hehe

Take again another look in that model up there! LOL Nope, never! LMAO :- )

To me, reports of no overheating no less but price places it at the Z8 range, it's pricey for now IMO. It will come to the territory of $2K-2.5K soon, though... Then it will become harder to not buy it. I've just purchased the BMCC6K-FF new for €1444.54... Pretty neat and impossible to miss it! ;- )

Yes, they have introduced PDAF in their latest models versus contrast-based autofocus for some reason... ; ) For stationary subjects can work out though. I personally like their cameras but don't like their old option. Just expecting to have the chance to test the new adoption anyways. :- )

Imperfections, flaws are not necessarily unaesthetic but the opposite when they can be creatively worked into the aesthetic object and serve the subject included. - EAG

For sure @Andrew Reid, great post and insight with such an example where anti-cinematic as you've called it and it is, becomes the most cinematic answer and as also written, "sometimes"... That's the OP's point, there's taste (where poll fits BTW) and world beyond ;- )

And you are fairly right! : ) No vote still applies ; ) I've just added it, as said in Europa/Zentropa (1991) 'cause the truth resides with those who take sides, so I can't help myself and I am actually sick of some fallacy the geek inside us hints our inner side to believe : D

LOL : ) Thanks! I told you perception is half way... I think it's high time already to add my vote then. Done ;- )

To me, sharp glass looks like all the same :- )

Maybe the most accurate line produced in these boards for ages about anything you can hear directly to both this craft and technology related :- )

Very true : ) However, thers's a solid difference between them, enough to advise me I won't want to replace the MFT lens I already have and no AF will be able to deviate myself from the purchase of a MFT -> E mount adapter instead, go figure why LOL ;- )

Kudos for this, Andrew, that's a hell of an offer! Pity I have nothing similar here among those available at my side or I would be rather glad to make it : ) Can't wait to see what this community can find from there though :- )

LOL Annoying before to getting fine, isn't it? It's living with or leave it! : ) What is unique is this combo to give that characteristic touch/look by its own: There's no simply competitor at this such small camera segment level, useless to look for anything else.

Yes, it's Yale. It's 1/48th or 1/120th shutter speed to match the 180º angle. Osmo Pocket 3 has a gimbal incorporated in its camera system. Here you have a fair comparison although I woudn't use their low light setting but just 8K mode for taking advantage of the resolution increase (seems a paradox but the balance ends differently...):

LOL You already have it, you can add no vote... ; ) My case as matter of fact, so far : ) Even though, on the contrary of our nice fellow @ac6000cw who has been the only one to kindly post his impression and feelings, I'd rather give up to buy the Sony 11mm lens for now to succeed a new camera acquisition I have in hands because I'd much take the Samyang I already have as matter of fact but MFT mount. I don't like clinical glass at all. Wanna listen something I have to say? I was Sony customer for a decade a quarter of century ago when have changed to Canon/Panasonic & RED/Blackmagic. I've changed my mind for the efforts Sony has made on their sensor technology and camera offer. A certain Sony Europe VP told me once (during the 90s) I could never find anything really interesting to me at this price range from their part. I see now he was wrong on his prediction. I want to see now the way they've approached the user interface. I believe not on pair with Blackmagic OS but I will give them a chance coupled to non-proprietary glass, I bet. What really puzzles me is the fact people want cinematic outcome with sharp stuff which doesn't mean to give us the best, more often the opposite. It's like to go after a sexy girl at the convent... : D

And here you have the Osmo Pocket 3 from same camera user @markr041 with that 4K60p look you praise, so @24p you can even have much more room with 1 stop and a half of light extra at same shutter speed equivalent for a 180º angle and subsequently better results indeed, than the ones remarkable per se from these shots and such a tiny sensor size platform: The sensor size format is not actually so crucial as before anymore with the new sensor technology we have today.