Emanuel

The portrait orientation is a good excuse/reason : ) Better heat management to my needs makes a perfect sense despite that replacement time frame already mentioned. The Z8 with the grip add-on is a 2-in-1 solution though... I think it depends how much you estimate you'll use the grip ;- )

Of course, no objection : ) All you said stands. The Achilles heel to those who feel more comfortable with and don't feel a smaller and lighter camera unit an inferior form factor, but on the contrary. R5C is the one to tell us they're coming, I guess. Hence I believe Z8 is yet more prone to be less outdated than its heavier counterpart anyway. For some reason they've launched it. My only beef has a name Z9 doesn't probably share. The concern on overheating issues. Reason why the case here at my own for an eventual adoption is on standby. Not ruled out yet.

Also, sorry me again (better to let it written here before any hater will come to ask me to learn the basics of psychology other than only the English idiom LMAO : D) but those Wikipedia entries are too much poor, so once I guess in a filmmaking forum, psychology makes all the sense not only technology, here is a better one: https://diversity.social/unconscious-vs-subconscious/ I actually incline to see how this whole talk about AI lacks of some other fields of science like we only have exact sciences... and this is a big fail IMO :- )

* subliminal (sorry for the use of a non-English word up there!) It's all about nuances. A bit like language and the way electronic translators work or on decoding thinkers speech. Put ChatGPT to try to do it... It's not chess! ;- )

Interesting stuff, no doubts : ) But I think there's something you've missed from kye's entry. The figurative speech : ) And no, I'm not thinking you're a machine :- ) On the contrary, I praise your human input. People comment people. Not so sure the will stands with AI : D ; ) Which applies for the world of affections and between the lines where art as for instance pops up -- humans are able to. Will machines be able to compete at the same level? I have my doubts. There's a subliminar world I still think is science fiction yet to see computers understand and incorporate it. Psychology (people who did the film school I attended had it) tell us there's the unconscious and subconscious components of human mind. Soul... : X Even atheism has no name for... LOL ; ) Will they be able to match it? I have my sincere doubts this will ever be possible. (yeah, the territory where the philosophical problem of faith flows too and philosophy is not an empty science neither psychology ;- )

I agree with all the points made. Same wondering here. Z8 or Z9? Z9 has that advantage on better cooling for sure. The disadvantage is the Achilles heel though. The form factor, the size and weight. With smaller and lighter intros each year more often (R5C is the proof they get it), you'll tend to see the need for the replacement of a Z9 than the Z8. That's the estimation made as conclusion to my view. I don't actually think may end unfair to infer such assessment : ) Really.

Other than overheating ; ) I just think who will buy a Z9 rather than a Z8 will replace it much earlier very likely...

Will never be replaced. The same way painting didn't when the camera was invented.

I love them! Which means that magenta too LOL : D Didn't pull the trigger yet though... That Z8 overheating alert freakes me out a bit...

My birthday: October 17... Yours? :- )

Me too @kye... And @eatstoomuchjam BTW, I meant 12K. There's no room for further updates, the only choice there it is not fail on the chosen configuration to buy. No room for 2nd chance once purchased. Yes, Q0 will demand for more resources but also 12K @ 75 fps going with Ursa Mini Pro 12K 2.4:1 as for instance... I wonder when the things will become choppy versus the use from internal SSD.

Is it possible on most recent Mac with unified memory? Even dealing with high resolution video files?

It is Resolve but the idea is to guarantee the minimum configuration savings for internal SSD. And taking advantage of the Thunderbolt port(s) to connect the external SSD storage in order to have access to high resolution video files from there where Resolve will operate.

Clever ; ) Loved the sausages part! LOL : ) This is what a real production means as conforming creative choices to the stuff we have in hands... Well done again in this yearly tradition of yours, it will surely be appreciated by the local community :- ) ¡Felices fiestas de Navidad! - EAG

No games nor leisure stuff, only work related which translates to software and those files you mention in such directories. Not easy to mantain the system much clean to avoid those issues without many skills on computing and alike? I mean because I am not Apple user yet despite a couple of equipment around for home use, but as far as I could understand, the idea is they offer understanding of its maintenance under the regular user viewpoint or am I wrong on this one?

I'm afraid so, hence my question... I wonder not only because their expensive SSD storage but what else is left other than external storage route via thunderbolt?

Gracias for your wishes, amigo, always welcome as usual! To you too! Emanuel :- ) PS -- Funny the style this year... any special reason for the slowmo and drone shots approach?

No worries Andrew, c'mon I know but I appreciate your care. You know, I have to let it clear. Seems we cannot make a long story short now from that information you've just posted, I see now even longer than I thought... ; ) I hadn't read it yet. Really. No problem, I understand your editorial standpoint : ) And it's fairly expectable when pops up certain crappy attempts to flood it with spam over our heads. Here is an example you now point out. I hadn't seen yet that post by that "Herrham" making a racist joke addressed to some man/target based on such biblical name connected with a "very dumb horse"... : P Impressive. Very creative. When arguments lack. A charm. Had you/we ever noticed any post coming from same source before? Of course not! Or maybe the OP right there in that thread?! haha It is a single post and straight addressed to me... WOW What an honour! LOL It's not hard to make the connection with my entries there along in that exact thread, where anyone can easily clear up what side I am and why certain obscure poster who decided to join on November 28 and took a precious time to write a lame single ad hominem attack against this humble scribe here of yours... Sounds easy when there's no ban hammer back. On November 28, same date, last visited : X Yes, it is suspicious but to each their own. Seems someone I somehow may have hurt with my opinion and input wanted to drive me silent. End of story. So, the same concern you have I share it with you. Of course, we may choose different camera topics to talk about. Also because we have different needs, obvious actual separate routes of life, professional ones of our own, of course, your focus can be another one and mine a distinct one. I think we usually tend to pay attention to what fits our current scope. If we want to look for a certain type of gear, we are not focused on something which can constitute the main subject of your editorial line. And I certainly respect this. I cannot guess before you say it. Once alerted I can only show to you my cooperation and clarification. It's not an essay, Andrew, even though every single individual has a style of his/her own. I figure out you want to express your care that I may not feel it personally. I don't. That's all OK! As written and very sincerely, I follow your concern and you can check I even ended attacked when doing the same to address such identical concern of yours. That said and now as part of your audience and fellow user who appreciates to be here with you and share your passion, I'd truly love you could not leave out of your radar such lovely promise Ace Pro and Back-Bone releases look like to be. No less for GoPro releases each year. Let's not confound it with crappy copycats, these manufacturers don't deserve their treatment IMO, far to be. Take a look on your diligence about shooting raw video on a mobile phone... to only mention this typical case of your enthusiasm we cannot particularly or evidently demand but hope for. As someone who also wrote there and a couple of us concurred immediately after, if not other, for fun -- isn't it the first reason why we are here, after all? Yes, not all oh yeah, but I am glad I still know who and where I am ; ) :- )

Of course Andrew, I even share your concern when people start to misplace concepts and praise some oddities like a new future for coming!... LOL : ) Even though, I don't think these small devices have no necessarily to be connected with killing anything or everything we've known so far. I've also been pretty straightforward, no doubts, about it -- with a few posts there along that whole thread, not viable to leave here (several) links to, for clear grounds, it's just going there and read it : ) However, seems people tend to see it as two separate worlds when they are not and don't need to be. I mean on features, not film language! Media convergence has brought room for a wider spectrum of applications. Cinema has changed but this doesn't mean to end dead as looks like a macabre celebration at a certain point and also pointed out by a good fellow of ours for the subject matter. The democratization of this medium has favoured such circumstances. The innovation on those small devices no less. I don't see them as a threat. Trying to adapt their introductions on low light performance and stabilization resources to name a couple of them as a positive contribution and not the contrary. Language will never be suppressed for technology adoption because it is beyond that. As actually written in that recent thread about the 24p topic. My enthusiasm for new releases such as Ace Pro offering 8K 24p for so less bucks is nothing I take it as HFR (let alone 8K! : P) becoming the norm and replacement for the cinema look... : D It sounds even amusing when people think this will happen as inevitable. On YT, unfortunately, pictures live nowadays released there, for everything and camera industry follows the trend. We all know written press has experienced a blow. Sometimes it is easier to post the thumbnail and live with that OP has already published on YT rather than somehow add a hidden link I guess people will end too lazy to even click it. We live in the planet where rules the law of the minor effort today. It is what it is. To communicate whatever we intend to is the key then. But, I will obviously consider your request as webmaster and salute you may add your concern over here. Nothing beats an open discussion and I believe this is what the forums are made for. You've made it or we wouldn't have the chance to be and share our thoughts here as happens. It doesn't surprise me at all when we repeatedly see posts going on a different direction of your editorial choices. Fortunately, this place exists or we'd be flooded by many spam entries. The open gate every time we land on YT, isn't it? ; ) Sometimes a way to have the possibility to discuss with people we share a few or more angles on it as that infamous thread around 24p as effectively shown. Maybe not the original intention of the OP but it's not hard to realize that from an attentive reading of the posts published and the discussion followed there. EOSHD (.com forum), your boards, are the only location where this is possible, where else...? So, not much different for the small form factor devices aka "action cams". Don't think I also haven't noticed these same voices on those action cam threads (only one or a couple of those : D opened by me!) reverencing the smooth HFR... * cough cough * So, did I feed "the monster"? My bad, I apologise for the inconvenience. Seems the creation has surpassed the creator... LMAO Hey, I am not the only one... We live in a polytheism right in that front row! : D Someone could say why not there on YT? With whom there, I'd incline to ask. Got the feeling? :- ) In a very particular note now, the one to roll my eyes is not the multitude of videos more or less all showing the same. Play ostrich won't solve the things. It is the spam of ideas what is something more noticeable of the times we have arrived from this digital age where we have ended. I don't also think to praise old school as mantra may help if not having an eye on both sides of the equation. The recent drone remark that I'd get one as only camera to have because it is the only to fly... LOL : D it is surely a joke... Without mention how useful they are as tools for leveling up (y)our production values these days to those who struggle in the field. Or I wouldn't have ended to refer a cinema camera such as the Ursa Mini Pro (12K) I've recently added to my arsenal and I'd actually like to see more people here to show some attention to : ) Mirrorless world is fancy and alike but as user with countless units so far from many brand suppliers (I am not used to sell the mirrorless ones since the first GH1s, just the only couple of action cam units I bought in all my entire life once not happy with yet, what else can I put my focus on as crash/B/C cam?), I've arrived to the conclusion we cannot be closed on that form factor albeit an enthusiastic adopter since day one, one of the reasons as I've landed here. Or we tend to see mere marginal improvements from each most recent release. Let alone the overheating yadda yadda every time the usual suspects launch a "new" version of the same BTW. Hence my enthusiasm on something coming to really make the difference. It's not at the level of the film language for sure! :- ) But flexibility on tools at one's/our disposal. The many, the more defiant self-reliance of a filmmaker is (EAG :- )

On that SSD comment, I hope that thunderbolt port may let people go on cheap as far as internal SSD concerns RAM aspect aside... Am I right?

You rock @kye You're the kind of technical expertise skilled individual at professional level no matter how amateur sometimes you claim to be LOL : P every film producer would like to have nearby! : ) When/if you'll decide to come closer, let people here know! ;- )

Yes, I am based on similar input coming from acceptable lag on Insta360 products from their users I am also one of them, hence why I might end and actually am all enthusiastic with : ) The fact they've succeeded to launch to each most recent GoPro models seems to hint they're coming to improve their offer as far as that issue concerns. Reason why such reports like yours are priceless to go forward ; ) I can only be optimistic! :- )

It's not a bad thread though : ) I think it has ended more a promotion of 24p as preferred frame rate delivery than its opposite! LOL : ) Looking it from both perspectives and each arguments seems 24p is well alive! ; ) Not that we had the need for such discussion but they came so powerful on bright and nonsensical sides respectively I believe we are still more comfortable on the natural side of the thongs... oops, things! : D

It's not a bad thread though : ) I think it has ended more a promotion of 24p as preferred frame rate delivery than its opposite! LOL : )

Well, people are not needed to leave to be anonymous as any one wishes : ) People are free to adhere or not. I guess it is also somehow personaliity connected. We are not all the same nor have to be :- ) Thank you for your words in a way or another, always appreciated.