Emanuel

No way, I am not mod but this thread is going in the perfect direction. Thanks for that. I think lower ISO would bring you out to mitigate the issue I guess. Perhaps the reason why in my experience I've been rid of it.

Sure Matthew, if you follow my posting you'll find the same attitude, no worries : ) I mean it seriously. I had added a similar perspective inside some other paragraph meaning but you seemed to have missed it from my earlier post :-) Indeed (out of likes again... this 10-likes limitation is a bitch but post count is post count :D) aside the fact these cheap devices are not exactly outside because of lack of cinematic properties despite any much more expensive tool must bring some add-on to play with, well said, I invariably much appreciate your insights too :-)

@Matthew Hartman Well, well, I'd say they don't give a damn for the camera to be used. Not when money pops up anyway. Not exactly to save their pennies for ; ) That's a double-edged sword. Arri as camera manufacturer is a different story and yes, they had to go after whatsoever. Michael Bravin episode (I even had the chance to trade some messaging with him then) is there to testify. Jim and Jarred also took their part on their marketing plot. The same a couple of years later with Sony. This decade. The transition is made in the previous decade though. Of course, DoPs have their input to give but the fees side of the story still stands. Indies will always mark the history of this medium since when Chaplin, Griffith, Fairbanks and Pickford founded United Artists a century ago. I guess you missed that part from my previous post (Cheers, E :-)

Thanks for answering : ) Fair informative. Unable to see the camera info metadata from here. What camera and lens exactly? What about exposure? Have anyone of you tested to play with in order to mitigate the issue?

Thanks for the link. Here's another one on topic as far as Fuji concerns:

BTW, have you ever noticed this issue shown in the next links with your current Fuji camera going on your style of shooting at theatre along back light setups?

The streaming can be 8-bit 4:2:0 because people have no need of more. Take a look here: https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling Delivered or even produced for Netflix, no way, no less than 10-bit 4.2:2 But the issues you mention are coming from low bit rate and compression quite likely.

Agreed. Different needs apply. In any case, a matter of bit rate more than color sampling as 2nd line of factor to weigh heavily than the usual bit depth yadda yadda yadda... my fair guess. Practice variably redefines theory and people tend to neglect it :-)

@Kisaha Very nice to know, my friend, what's exactly your name? Kudos for your course of life -) Any shortcomings you had noticed? Here's some informative link on topic: https://fujiaddict.com/2018/02/27/fujifilm-x-h1-autofocus-explained/

And what about other PDAF cameras? Same issue?

Well, it is always my usual post on topic in these last two years and a half at least... We need to actually demystify that thing : ) If any 1 million -- in this case, 16 million colors is enough, why to spend 4x the same amount strictly necessary to handle the same as due?

1. Bit rate 2. Color sampling x. Bit depth 100 mbps can be short where 400mbps or 200mbps for a non-intra codec AFAIK like that one used on X-H1 can overcome further issues. Here's some informative link: https://fstoppers.com/education/can-you-see-difference-between-10-bit-and-8-bit-images-and-video-footage-166977 And this one endlessly posted over here before: sample extracted from (minute 28:30): https://vimeo.com/114978513

Minuscule...?! In my country we're used to say men do not measure to each other... Neither cameras! BTW I am 183 / 6 feet tall :-D

To you and everyone who cares about the minimum requirements I believe: I've never noticed that with Panasonic or am I only a happy camper from unrelated shooting style?

Waiting game... hehe Exactly my mood here. At least until NAB expecting Blackmagic and a7SIII entries but each day more centered on the new X-H1 toy and perhaps that GH5S too if nothing more interesting won't pop up in the meantime.

Same here hehe @DaveAltizer Compelling insight man! : ) The best of my hats to you ; ) BTW once we are together in the same camera models vibe I guess, what about your input on GH5S vs X-H1? I'll be rather interested to hear from you towards it, especially with your surprising findings on both GH5 series' entries now. When? Any tip?

@Kisaha I thought of your reply when I placed the thread, but @jonpais it is a surprise... I thought you'd be a new GH5S owner (I never stop to think about that camera; I guess I'd pick 'that girl for going to the movies' if I would need to only choose one : D)

Indeed : D We have to adapt to the part of world we were born for : ) I know IIRC you are Greek but you've also worked in UK, correct? (That feature shot on Alexa is exactly part of my British portfolio :-)

@Kisaha Obviously, if you can charge for Alexa, why not? I have produced a feature shot on Alexa precisely. Without mention REDs. The point is when you simply don't want or need it. Small factor also helps when non-intrusive setups are wanted. No idea if that one from you to hint you are not aware if someone knows how the industry works was actually addressed to me once we've practically posted at same time. You didn't quote me either. Coming from someone in this business for 2 decades and a half now, I think I may fulfill some credits to answer anyway: Of course, an average budget won't cut on the camera department. Why should it be? That's the most insignificant part. The story will happen to end much different when low/no budget realm(s) pop up. Or for aesthetics or even a matter of principle, tools of choice or craft (as for example, small crews or constituted for novices) come to mind and method of work. At times, only for the pleasure we have to produce something substantially unconventional as further as possible. These light tools fit there. OK, got it perfectly now. That one was actually not addressed to me : ) It is answered in one way or another.

I understand you. Jon's stubborn like hell :-) A bit wild kid at times, but who doesn't like him is because doesn't know how to appreciate his insights. On your hollywood wondering, I never worked in hollywood but I have worked and am connected with people there. It is an industry. They are not focused to save pennies paying attention to most affordable players. They don't even want or care about other than their solid budget league. Certain stuff is not even welcome because it is too cheap. This will obviously have a consequence on some other items directly in the payroll if I make myself to be understood about. This doesn't mean the tools you have can't match their outcome with your craft or we would never have indies to begin with or IMNSHO I hadn't had the chance to produce a feature shot on 35mm BTW but awarded in Sundance and Berlin with Angelina Jolie as Executive Producer or to produce both shot on DSLR cameras a documentary in Indonesia with Spike Lee or yet to have a 2nd feature produced in the same Berlinale (Berlin International Film Festival) edition (E :-)

I am surely not our good Jon but I think I can answer you on that one : ) You can mimic whatever outcome you want when you have certain features. GH5 series have all the features and many others to achieve that and beyond this. It just depends on your skills. SOOC any Fuji is better, from their unique color science. There's no worse, just different approach for. Depending on your needs and taste of working. Hope this helps! (E :-) haha I mentioned the camera, pal! : ) Nice to know brexit didn't pop up yet ; ) Always accurate AF? :-)

I am fully in love for this one here... How have you found AF? Where are you based in?

I wouldn't say that! Worse than the 1st generation will always be hard to pick-up... :-)

The only thing I actually find on Sony's mirrorless colors is good gray and brown tones... :-D Full color SOOC is the Fuji signature indeed. The latest generation also brings higher bit rate. Without fresh eggs ; ) we can't even have healthy omelettes (E :-)

Funny doubts/perspectives pretty different still stand... Reds and blues would be in trouble if everyone would love to see the world of yellow : ) I don't even mention the green pattern now once rather than greenish I should replace the thing for yello-wish today : D To each his own. Tastes like scents and suchlike, among them sights on your type of woman, are indisputable :-)