Emanuel

What ISO values? BTW does 4K 120fps offer audio recording included @200 Mbps too?

Thanks : ) also to you and everyone too! - EAG

Here you have a fair comparison and where one and the other one can sing, respectively:

Do you remember the ISOs used on the slowmo shots (4K 120fps right?) for the minutes 00:03, 00:07, 00:30, 02:00, 02:26, 03:28, 03:46 (with artifacts more visible in the dark areas after 00:36, 02:08, 02:30, 03:32, 03:57)?

In any case, it is natural the shooter had often used a very high set of ISO values which will naturally increase noise artifacts more visible in the dark areas such as those blacks and blues. Not apples to oranges. That's the only way to compare tools.

On 00:14 I don't notice anything but on the rest, yes, you're right although that looks like to me the introduction of compression artifacts, not necessarily coming from the native files : ) You're watching processed pictures, not the original acquisition. Anything adultered is nothing about the ones SOOC. You can only have an accurate idea when you face that stuff the camera directly produced, shot by the device without any further processing or you can fairly infer that's noise introduced later on.

Maybe compression or your display? I don't see anything wrong on mine even @ 1080p resolution other than the beauty of the footage, well shot and a bit pleasant grainy : ) What exactly have you found? Can you post some grabs as samples about what bothers you actually?

Posted a reply to your quote on this dedicated thread open to discuss how to go steady and alike stuff:

Coming from the R5C thread: I believe 8K 50/60p is much more forgivable when comes to the use of slowmo @ high resolution... vs What do you think?

WOW What a short film, pal, this is much more than a clip... Come to my mind Artavazd Peleshyan, one of the greatest... Thanks for sharing, very worthy, this couple acted for you, both, WTH of a performance : ) One of the most beautiful things of the kind I've seen, such a thrill, pure cinema, simple but a true Epiphany made by pictures, the movement is absolutely competent, asked for... this is a cameraman! Not easy task at all... Framing brought to you some challenges you had to decide atm without losing the hand and before you could lose the shot, hats off! EAG :- )

Lovely use : ) OIS too, I guess? And no bean bag this time :- )

Is EIS absent of 8K 50/60p I guess because it's RAW? But not on 4K 100/120fps, correct?

This is the kind of information which matters to post into this thread on topic here: The different methods to achieve stabilized outcome fairly vary and there's no jack-of-all-trades in fact.

@kaylee Great installation art WOW Where have you found it? Loved the shot with the dog too, as usual everything coming from you as the artist you are, kudos to you! EAG :- )

Indeed! : D You've succeeded once again as usual, at least along this season when you're used to post it! Your touch... : ) But la periodista is for real, not part of the squad! ; ) Muy bien! Merry Christmas to you, @kaylee and all of you too! @Andrew Reid he should already know where our thoughts and prayers are! :- )

Well, you didn't lose it, just readjust the AF... ; ) Other than the bean bag, what else you used to stabilize it? OIS? What lens? The expensive Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II USM? EIS too, I guess? What frame rate acquisition? Impressive result... : ) If this works in a jungle, imagine now for street photography!

LOL I assume I can't resist to that 8K60p in such small form factor but I'm still all ears! :- )

https://camerasize.com/compare/#899,886 Sorry, I couldn't resist... LOL :- )

Something funny is the fact I only see a triple advantage for R5C coming from P4K... Higher resolution for extracting stills towards large format printing on wider hybrid route and media convergence, as well faster frame rates and competent AF to end the triad. Other than that, RX30 size seems perfect sized instead, while R5C can form another brick as big as P4K... https://camerasize.com/compare/#782,886 ...imagine it with the external power (minimal wedding ) rig... : D

I feel myself tempted, I am... but I am all ears what makes you colder with, because perhaps we have distinct uses for. Is it bulky? With external power, but don't you agree there are different options with variable results accordingly? I love the minimal RX30 form factor as for instance but when compare both outcome on high ISOs and fast frame rates, I stop myself and am not able to help anymore. People also complain of lack of IBIS, I tend to see it as a bless when powered by OIS and yet extra coupled to EIS/DIS instead. Anyway, please tell us more about your issues, no criticism is unwelcome! : ) On the contrary, anything which actually stop my irresistible proof Netflix certification means too little, really helps... -- no pun intended at all :- )

I am in the market to probably end to buy one... I cannot help myself and trust me, I've tried my very best! LOL My vote goes for Rig #2 MINIMAL WEDDING RIG ! You see? R5C is NOT actually married with the tripod, just up to us know how to date her... ;- )

Haven't you actually owned or used one too after all ?! Yet as disclaimer to my precedent comment above-posted, don't take me by mistake because I always love the existence of contradictory, so active criticism is invariably welcome and can only be pointedly incentivated but no less to balance the point of view or we end unfairly biased at the wrong side of the road : ) Let me tell you what I'd tend to believe without it... R7 and their sisters are all mirrorless cameras while R5C is already a married woman when AFAIK that's pretty inaccurate :- )

I sincerely think and stand what fairly bothers you is prone very likely to be indifferent to many others. Really : ) Aside as you've just said, no camera is even a piece of cake when sand lies nearby beyond the fact you can always diminish the risk adding your rig. No other capture device will peacefully rescue from. Let alone what @gt3rs has pointed out ; ) Does R5C become a tripod camera because its external power add-on you can always replace it under 8K50p/60p? Without mention the weak battery life you need to learn to live with (as many other stuff on shooting) which is more easy to overcome than the lack of features you won't find anywhere else. I plainly didn't understand your comment to be honest in any way other than as a simple manifestation of your taste you and a few others are perfectly entitled to tell us but far to be science, that's my feeling :- )

As hinted up there, the use of gimbal is a whole different story, a bit like dolly shots, they don't fit here because they belong to another competition, definitely with no replacement for ;- )