Emanuel

No, it is overprocessing indeed.

But a way beefier to a P4K user, isn't it? ;- )

Indeed. And more useful than the native one bundled with the combo pack, yes, I'd effectively recommend it as much as this guy here. When several people are saying the same it should be for no reason :- )

That's the feeling, yeah, but it is rather viable to arrive there at the other end of the fence if they fulfill the cup and not forget their home work. I've been in touch with the marketing and sales chain either in Portugal or Europe. BTW the ASUS W EMEA man I contacted last night already answered me this morning. Seems clear they need competent people to help the product to also be a camera. We can't put who rides a bicycle to fly an aircraft without flight knowledge. Basic flight knowledge is insufficient. Andrew is on the spot when his article nails they need to have who (really) understands of photography.

Indeed. And it is 100% possible if they care. FILMiC PRO offers it. Why not them?

PS -- In order to let it clear: As far as I could test it, manual exposure only works either on native or going with third parties app up to 4K 60fps as well 8K 30p on ASUS software. Not 4K 120fps despite the promising good performance of the hardware of theirs (Zenfone 7 PRO).

I've downloaded this modded version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1500/ From here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-suggested/ With the config from the previous Zenfone model (6): https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/configs-urnyx-02/ No luck at all. I actually have found it rather poor BTW. Definitely not at the FILMiC PRO level or even 2021 Best Camera App based in the same root after all. Camera2 API doesn't allow higher than 30fps and the precedent Camera API also available goes up to 120fps but not to this smartphone model where only 15fps, 24fps (not even 25fps, go figure) and 30fps are able to be recorded throughout this Zenfone 7 PRO along it. High bit rate up to 100Mbps works though : ) other than randomly on the Open Camera app. Another positive note is the fact the (real) innovative retractable/flip camera is there, either on the GCam or 2021 Best Camera, so it is a sign both apps have access to this peculiar ASUS tool rather useful. Thus, all this shows that's a whole ASUS ballpark case. They should, well, they MUST address it if they respect their commitment with their loyal clientele (in my case since 2011 with many others directly following my steps as far as I've seen from my own path). I sent tonight the link of this thread to the technical responsible of the brand in Western Europe, Middle East & Africa (Territorial PR & TPR Marketing Manager). He will surely read it. Let's just hope there will be more care to address all this properly and show some love and care for their product, market segment and their supporters. Fingers crossed but I don't hold my breath too much. It's a shame. A pity. So close we are. There is hardware. Their unique 4K 120fps feature proves it. Hard to understand their carelessness. Really : (

I am fully with you on this one : ) These smartphones "IT designers" are absolutely dumb, inept to understand what a device should be. I am done with so much silliness, ignorance, well, incompetence, I must say. They have no simply clue of the horse in their hands. They think they're dealing with some sort of poney or even a donkey :- ) For some GOOD reason, I've posted this one here and am still looking for: That ASUS ZENFONE 7 PRO flip cam is one of the most useful tools I've ever shot with. Coupled to efficient 4K 120p would really be a dream. So? They have decided to cripple it without manual exposure! : ( What else to say?

Well, I follow your POV but let's not forget going with 5X the 24p rate, we have 376Mbps as 'regular' speed equivalent, so it's not that bad detail-wise also in order to avoid any potential introduction of nasty artifacts along your footage ; ) Without mention, you can always recode it : ) I'd firmly suggest this one, though:

4K/60p video remains unavailable. Unbelievable in 2021... A shame for such skillful device. A true pocket. Pity not possible to expand 4K HFR via HDMI, I suppose.

It is just they will offer 4K 120fps and that would be a no-brainer for many for sure... ; ) BTW @wolf33d where are you, (HFR for) slowmotion man? ;- )

I understand your concern but, I haven't had a single trouble going with external SSD storage for years now. I simply don't care to hear about for anything other to be honest : ) With the right rig, no need for worries. Really :- )

I still have the ones kept somewhere else (but not in digital version) I didn't help myself to end investing with my student pocket money along those old 90s back to my law school years, when I was used to spend a couple of hours literally, reading at book store (not the library : D) once arrived and my few bucks were too short to afford it every single month then. This sounds dreamlike now, by consequence. I think it's not easy to young people in digital age to have a picture what this means. - E.

That's absolutely irresistible! WOW One of the most appealing no-brainer offers I've ever seen... Mate, if your posts were one of my favs before, guess now ; ) Your life is already duplicated per se for this sharing, mark my words! : D This is what makes this community a unique case worldwide @Andrew Reid :- )

Very true, I'd call it artificial detail to such oversharpening, even though speaking about the same anyway : ) But, while we can overcome that on post, adding blur, it is impossible to handle anything serious without manual exposure. Let alone flickering among some other unwelcome oddities, really. In any case, FILMiC PRO has introduced the possibility to disable it, so I believe any third party software can easily get it...

ASUS got a very interesting feature: Guess what? Just looking for an Android app able to handle manual exposure going along the fast frame rate of 4K 120fps from ASUS 7 PRO hardware. As well, disabling the 'Edge Enhancement' feature offering a more cinematic outcome such as FILMiC PRO or Cinema 4K apps for example. However, there are limitations. Those third parties don't allow any competent 4K slowmotion on ASUS 7 PRO as happens with the proprietary software. Open Camera is open source. Some features are available only on a few devices, as they may depend on hardware or camera features, the Android version, etc and definitely not on ASUS 7 PRO, unfortunately. I wonder if Open Camera app wouldn't be viable to be directly adapted in order to address such needs? Or what about a new app from scratch? Is there anyone out there able to develop it in one or another route solution? I believe there is a huge market just waiting for... Almost every Zenfone 7 PRO user taking advantage of this unique 4K 120fps feature would salute and buy this new arrival, I bet. Without mention, one of the goodies of this cameraphone, the retractable/flip camera, is only available on the proprietary app. Why not on third parties? Is it feasible? Any takers?

If they will cripple it as ASUS did with their proprietary software to handle 4K 120fps on ASUS 7 PRO without manual exposure and edge enhancement is absolutely useless...

Indeed. Your current regime is truly a PITA : ( In January, Portugal reached the sad daily mark of 15,000 and 300 casualities (which means a daily rate 6300 of dead people in Brazilian figures, so easy to get how bad it was before this 2nd lockdown of 2021) with 7x more of infected than the world average because of a people without many worries about it to follow lazy policies of our socialist party government (one year ago the fear was not the bitch)

Sorry mate @BTM_Pix but discretion is beyond our enthusiasm for your stuff... ; ) @majoraxis has just beaten me for a couple of hours this time... : D No possible help for anyone to calm down those high expectations on this product of the year! : ) Long life to and love for Irish goodies :- )

Fair enough Tim, but the opposite POVs expressed here between 'business craft' and 'art craft' (not a trading mark of the gaming industry for sure LOL) don't necessarily mean every filmmaker will have to run the whole steps of the career to succeed and see the outcome popping up. The same way a filmmaker is the one able to have 'product' 'to be published', no matter where he/she is coming from. Especially today along the digital age. There is world in the lens-based media outskirts. Lots of 'digital filmmakers' get outstanding achievements without the old school standards. A lot has changed. Let alone with the streaming now. As @barefoot_dp adequately nailed and clearly illustrated from those words above-posted, I just can't stand that shooting ad nauseam in a daily basis is a much faster learning curve for this craft/business/industry/art/whatever we want to do or call it : ) Shooting is just a part of the process, filmmaking is much beyond to have a camera setup in hands (E :- )

...if any (E :- )

Business as meaning of activity, craft, occupation, industry... If industry is often connected with profit, art is broader, I believe. Profit is usually the last purpose of making art.