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A minor segway for people who wonder why the hell anyone would shoot on nikon still: I was editing stuff from my last shoot yesterday. Interior shot exposed for the exterior sky (so there was just a tiny bit of data in the blue channel). Flat profile on nikon d5500, as flat as possible on the gx85. Blue skies recoverable from both shots, interior on the gx85 absolutely unrecoverable, no problems on the d5500 (and if only they had a decent codec it could be pushed much further). I dont know how the gh5 and log will compare, but the *usable* dynamic range on the nikons is still better than I've seen in this segment. I love my nikon gear, I also want them to be around in 10 years time :/

the nikon chief strategist is a drooling gibbon. honestly I think they could do better if they had a monkey throwing SH** at a chart of camera features

Urgh! I hope they can make active d-light in 4k available for the d820/d850 or whatever it will be called and full frame 4K. Its my last hope to remain a nikon shooter. Crop is aparently 1.5x

if anyone could care less: http://nikonrumors.com/2017/04/12/nikon-d7500-camera-announced.aspx/ Specs: http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/dslr-cameras/d7500.html?icid=img_en_us:hp:banner:1:dslr:d7500:41217:wwa#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs 4k looks like a 1.3 crop of dx (just a guess on the basis of photo sizes shot in movie mode). 30min recording limit. No mention of bitrate. Electronic stabilisation. Only thing of interest is active d-lighting in movie mode. Still no zebras, peaking etc.

yes, green or red (red usually)

ok so with peaking set to low, I've just found I can get peaking to show on very high contrast surfaces - the ones that are easiest to focus on anyway. (So for instance a wicker basket edge lit, gets peaking, but an external brick wall does not!!). I do have an external montior. I think for my shoot tomorrow, I'll have to rig it, and use that. On that note I'm shooting indoors under weird light - its not fluro its much greener. I've only used the gx85 in a very basic way up to now. I'm shooting photo style: custom -5 -5 0 -3 I'm likely to be shootin iso 400-800. I'll be shooting people coming down a slide, so lots of focus pulling, and a bit of hit and miss. Any suggested settings I should explore?

yeah but it used to work with non-native lenses (which is where I need it the most) *scratches head*

well theres nothing with peaking set to high or low. Nada. Camera is on manual focus

I've noticed the last few weeks it seems to be hardly visible even on high. Now I cant see it at all. I'm using a nikon 135 f2. Even stopped down to 5.6 I get nothing. Its set to high. Is there another setting I'm missing?

I'm not getting the fizz. Normally by now after a camera release I've seen some footage that has. I got the fizz when I first saw some hacked gh2 footage. In fact some of that still does it. Canon raw video. Even the BMPCC, a7s. I get more fizz from my nikon d5500 vid. It all seems a bit characterless, a bit sterile maybe (and goddamit Ive seen moire in 4k. Argh!)

I want to see if there's any moire in textile patterns or weave. Some tallent's shirts make gx85 footage unusable. On another note, andrew why are you surprised you didn't get invited. You've now established (and are outspokenly and rightly proud of) the fact that you won't be bought, glad handed or mollycoddled into praising a product you think is crap. Accept the fact you are not in the same business as photo journalists, keep your integrity and be far more useful to us lot as a result.

nikon are so cloistered I cant imagine them partnering with anyone. DJI would also make an interesting partner. I cant imagine it will be that long till DJI could buy Nikons camera division with spare change.

BINGO! Hee hee Sorry went back to vid and noticed it was labelled 1080. I can live with a bit of moire now and then in slowmo, have you found any moire in your 4k footage yet? This is 4K gx85:

Nooooo! As someone who videos people who wear clothes quite a bit this is a massive pain in the arse. I find with the gx85 big patterns will moire at a distance, smaller ones closer, and closer still the weave of the clothes becomes problematic. was this 1080 slow mo? or 4K?

I bought a nikon 5300 because the dynamic range was close to my d800. This was how I discovered dxo marks were a big fat waste of time. In fact I'm sure there is a better metric that could show the how noisy the shadows are when the highlights are just blowing out.

I had a mate that used to write for a camera mag. Panasonic used to take them hither and thither and wine & dine them. I'm sure they would've got corporate blowjobs if it was de rigueur. I'm pretty sure that journalists would need to declare such things, but blog writers? Youtubers? Keep doing what you do Andrew, its extremely rare and refreshing. ANd the od add or affiliate link on here would not phase me in the least. BTW same mate applied for a writer's job at DPREVIEW. He was editor of a camera mag. The job in question was unpaid. Unpaid! Classy.

Okey dokey. I think I would though. I'm a bit anal with my monitors But It sounds like the sort of thing that comes down to personal preference.

thanks @Vesku awesome to see that practically demonstrated! RE the 4:4:4 thing. You absolutely want this if you are doing anything other than showing video on the monitor. 4:2:2 will make text and interface stuff look horrible. thats why referring to rtings is so good - as they will only have 4:4:4 TV in their selections for use-as-monitor. Dont understand why philips is the only manufacturer with a 40" monitor. I'd love to see LG's DCI 4K at 38+ inches

when you're that close to a big monitor the edges of the screen would surely be approaching the viewing angle limit of VA?? Wouldn't they be darker?

scratch that philips: massive burn in issues.

so that samsung had a VA panel, so I've decided to wait till the Sony X850D (x8500d in aus) comes on sale somewhere. IPS, 120hz, and much better gamut and HDR. Downside: the smallest version is 55". The x8000d 49" is also IPS. The other option is a philips 4k, Philips BDM4350UC 43" IPS with 100%Srgb. I think this may be why I rejected the idea previously (as thE LG has 99% Adobe RGB). But 100%srgb is great compared to the TVs. Its only 8 bit panel, though whereas the IPS TVs seem to be 10 bit.

I'm saying the monitor would be huge - compared to what I'm (or mostly people would be) used to. Yes I figured pixel density would be about the same as I've got at the moment with a 2560 wide 27 inch. But that LG is 50% higher. Ho Hum

kaylee look at the link in the original post. it'll lead you back to a page all about tv's as monitors. the one I mentioned is the cheapest smallest one available but the 6000 series goes up to 70" I think. I recon a 40" tv on your desk probably wouldn't need ui scaling. it'd be yuge Since writing this I saw a review of the LG 32" 4k dci monitor with 99.9% adobe rgb and thse extra 200 ish pixels and its twice the price and now I dont know what to do. :p

This: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300 Is cheap over here at the mo. Was thinking of using it for the program window in premiere, and keep a smaller colour accurate monitor for doing grading and whatnot (and for lightroom and PS). is this a totally stupid idea? (I currently have 2560x1440 27" monitor, and just think that's too small for 4K).

Well dji have solved the issue by literally thinking outside the box. I wouldn't mind a totally stupid looking camera that could should 4K raw...