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its slightly bonkers that a drone manufacturer is pushing the camera tech envelope more than the camera manufacturers. You need certification to fly the inspire in australia, so it's off my radar for now, but if I had it it would be a no-brainer. Next phantom could well have raw vid. Helloooo... Nikon.... wakey wakey.....

That ship has sailed, the genie has left the bottle. Everyone (at least in Australia) calls them drones ? Magic has 28mm ish equivalent lens. P4 20 mm. This is the only thing that has left me even vaguely considering the p4. But I've decided to go magic. Too many other plusses, and I prefer the look of the video too.

oh just the snippets of 4K that have been posted ( think they're all on this thread). To my eye it looks a bit more organic than the gx85, but its early days

Sorry should've specified: G80/85. Everyone is saying g80 and gx85 will have identical video, but from what I've seen this is not so... maybe @andy lee can confirm;)

ive seen no sign of the moire i found on the gx85 in the clips i've seen so far. Would love to see some 1080/60 footage

That's a ton of great info. Listen to that man! :). Don't be perturbed if you can't afford that kit, you can still get amazing quality with lesser kit. But I'd agree 4k is key. If you don't have a monitor you can use an old PC monitor or TV. I've got decent sound out of this: http://tascam.com/product/dr-08/reviews/. On location even, but you need some judicious work in audition, and it's foibles are hidden for me with music. There's a super cheap mic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecs0GWaPtto and that guys channel is worth having a gander at. But If you have the budget, and you know you're going to use the kit, buy quality, buy once.

They're rather quick, what. Ok they're a bit pricer than sd cards, but you could pull em out, and edit on them. (And makes getting raw 4k a doddle ;)) http://www.anandtech.com/show/10698/samsung-announces-960-pro-and-960-evo-m2-pcie-ssds

well I think they were a bit conservative with their moire suppression THe d5500 on the other hand is a lot softer than the d5300, presumably softened to reduce moire as it too lacks an AA filter (and I think the 5300 had one). THe stills from the d5500 are fantastic. THe video, not so. I'm very much wanting a grown up video camera at this point. My rx100iv is the closest thing I've got to being usable in all modes, but its usability is also poor. I wish blackmagic would do something with its sensor.

yes indeedee one of the kit lenses 12-32 I think, why'd you ask? (I got some gnarly moire using the sigma 35mm on the original speedbooster, too - not as bad as this, but still bad).

I'll send you the shirt of moire if you like So I ended up fixing it in a hilarious way. I tried in photoshop and in premiere, I used several techniques that I've used before but it none of them really cut the mustard. So I found a frame that was slightly out of focus (no moire) and animated that over the chap. He was pretty stationary, it mostly works :D

Despite the moire thing, I got sucked into using the gx85 on a few shoots - love the picture I'm getting out of it and then this... Yep a whole day of this moire-tastic shirt to deal with. Almost be quicker to go reshoot. There was no clue in the viewfinder that this was happening either - the moire is so fine. I think this is up there as the worse that I've seen. and this is from the 4K image. will be looking at this closely on the g80

Looks like its got quick release on each axis - nice. I was thinking of getting the pilotfly h2, this one is very similar, but first gen. Not sure it offers much over the h2 apart from $150 cheaper, but pilotfly have pretty decent support whereas I know nothing of tilta. I wonder how heavy it is?

I noticed moire on both non native and native lenses. I still think its a great camera, just not for me: I need that 50p (or 60p preferably). I hope the gh5 will have 60p 4k.

Re moire: This is 1080 50p. For most people this situation will arise infrequently. You're right that looking at the 4K version at 1:1 there was virtually none.

I got some eye watering moire today on a wicker basket in my bedroom. Not so bad in 4k, but exactly the scenario I'm likely to encounter when shooting 1080. Which makes this not the camera for me Love the 4K image on faces and landscapes, but I got it for real estate vids. I'll keep the lenses though, and probably sell the body on ebay, and see if the rumored G80 has less moire (and 5 axis!). Its surprising as the sony rx100 has such a great image in 1080, 4k and 250fps - and better control of noise to my eyes. Wonder how sony can do it in such a small camera?

Well bugger, I just turned the ibis off and on again and it's started working. I'll have to keep an eye on that. Probably means that the video is a poor gauge of its stabilisation:)

First impressions, some good, some not so. Not sure its the right fit for me. Need to test low light and do more shooting generally Nice hack but no good for me - I need to swap quickly from one to the other. 5 axis - I know it works in video Just making sure that in the menu you need "E-stabilsazation (video)" to ON. (Because without that it seemed to do nothing.

Just taken it spin. A few things: so I'm stuck to 50p? Not ntsc switchable? Is there a way to get it to display the shutter speed when You're in A or P mode? I see in M its happy going down to 1/25th at 25fps. I want to avoid that 360 degree shutter angle! So do I need E-stablization on to get any stabilsation in video? My custom profile is set to -5,-5,0,-3 for C,S,NR,Sat. I did a custom curve too with +1 shad and -3 highlight. looks quite nice. will post a vid shortly

whilst I'm waiting for it to arrive... I have an original speedbooster, how much advantage is there to the new one? I used to find the 11-16 tokina on the gh2 was super wideorooni. I calculated it will be equivalent to a 17mm full frame (11x2x1.1x0.7). Does that sound right? I cant think of many fast ultra wide apsc lenses to adapt. I love the effective f2 of the tokina, but would also love a 14mm equivalent. (Which means 8-9 mm apsc). Batteries: Bugger I forgot to buy extras. Any ebay ones OK? Hows the battery life? Can I power it off usb? Any other bits and bobs I should get?

Ok good to know especially as I just bought one :). Got a deal in Australia with 12-35 and 45-150 lenses and 25mm 1.7 thrown in for free. Expecting these lenses to be kit lens tastic, but may use when I need auto focus.

Anyone used the gx80/5 and Nikon d53/5500? How does the dynamic range compare? And how's the 1080 60 on the Gx (Sorry if this has been covered already read the fist and last 8 pages but not the 20 or so in between )

@liam, it's got to go on a handheld gimbal, so small size is a thing. @andrew thought the 1080 60 was so-so on the gx85? It's tempting, and will go with my almost definitely gh5 unless Nikon surprise me

No focus aids, or exposure aids, not able to change aperture in live view, auto focus hit and miss, no af microadjustment. No high bitrate option...

I had a 6000 for a wee while found the 60p a bit meh. Yes 4k downsampled would be nice but need that 60p. Bmmcc would be nice but ISO limited and small sensor. So 6300 is a possibility. What's the 60p like? Is it moire tastic? I have rx100iv, love that it's usable and lovely in all its modes and I'm used to menus and slowly getting used to its colours

Ive grown to love the look, love the dynamic range and small files. Hate the usability. Anything out there in similar price bracket that has decent 1080 60p, 4k a bonus not essential. Have used gh4, seems like dynamic range suffers and 1080 not nice. (Or is that idiot user error?). Also need it to be usable at ISO 1600-2000