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I want to archive some timelapse stuff (squirrel away my raw files and jpegs and just keep say a 4K video file). I've done most of my grading already. Should I just bite the bullet and buy this: http://www.miraizon.com/products/codecsoverview.html Or is there an alternative? I've heard the avid Avid Codecs LE 2.3.9 dont support 4k (or well, if they do)

Yeah I agree add magic lantern (ie on open and if necessary, monetised firmware model for apps) and Nikon's active d-lighting to squeeze out the dynamic range. Otherwise I agree totally

everytime I think of the gap between what nikon could do and what they ARE doing I want to smack myself. Or their management. Panasonic should buy them

I challenge anyone to find worse moire than the clip at the end of this: :)

First time I realised I could happily say goodbye to the optical viewfinder was after using a lot of liveview and gh2: I tried to zoom in on the optical viewfinder to get critical focus :)

double post (must stop trying to use the forum on my phone :/)

Yes I agree. But detail is not everything, just as sharpness in a lens isn't everything Prefabsprout: even on.my on my phone it looks like your getting more detail from your a6000 then I am. Did you shoot at 25p? Still thinking there mine might need to be returned

Gm1 has no 50p, which is what I needed. And what I've realised after using a bunch of cameras is: horses for courses. For what I do dynamic range is key, followed by lack of moire, followed by low light ability. The 5300 will doubtless have a place in my kit for a while. Most of my vids will be watched at 720 or smaller anyway. I shot some stuff on the same day on the d800 and whilst it was sharper and possibly more detailed it suffered false colour and moire. Neither of which I've yet to see in the 5300. I'm no fanboy though: generally as a video camera it sucks. But if I could get a Panasonic's detail with the 5300's dynamic range I'd be a happy Easter bunny. Don't look at tree detail in the 2nd shot. The end of that was graded in photoshop using camera raw with heavy noise reduction it was 2 ish stops underexposed.

oops double.post

A bit off topic but I just spent a day with the D5300. Whereas the Sony video had little to talk about over the gh2, i really like the 5300 image. It doesn't have the crunchy detailed sharpness of the gh2 but its nowhere near as soft as the canon apscs. Dynamic range seems better than a6000 and high iso is remarkable. Bit blocky in the shadows when you try to recover detail, but compared to gh2 at least it has detail to recover.

There may be an issue with the a6000 I've got. I posted about it on this forum. Had to go out and get a d5300 for a job. Happily impressed with dynamic range so far compared to either gh2 or a6000. Detail is nice. Shame its such a dog to use. Hope it gets hacked Think I'll ditch the lot of them for the gh4 though. Andrew yes to do a propper test yes should've shot at 25p, but I bought the a6000 for its 50p and was testing selfishly for my own interests :)

Just don't try to do slow mo. The moire on 720 is unbelievable

Yep well gh3 probably would have been the sensible choice at that point. Note to self: err on the side of the more professional camera. Instead I went with the a6000, speedbooster and all, and found my nikon 14-24 didn't work with it. It may be an issue with this camera or speedbooster. Couldn't wait for replacements though, had to go out and buy a nikon 5300. By the time I've finished this I'll have tried every $1000 ish camera out there ;)

Just tried my 14-24 on the a6000 and it wont focus to infinity at 14mm. :( Its not slightly off either, its miles off. High res: http://1drv.ms/1hTnLyT (right click view original) Also weird curvy field of focus on the 35mm f1.4, which you can also see a little in the 55-210 kit lens. I'm hoping this is an issue with the a6000, rather than with my lens (which does focus to infinity on my d800).

My first bit of testing over the weekend. I'll do something a bit more scientific at some point. I wanted to get a feel for how it compares to the hacked gh2. Gh2 using nikon glass (sigma35mm f1.4m and tamron 70-300), a6000 using kit lenses 16-50 and 55-210 (all I have until adaptors arrive).

Is it just me or is this 50p clip gnarly? Moire, aliasing and overall looking very videoy compared to the organic feel of the G6 and gh3 The little bit of video in the camerstore review (5:50 ish) although overexposed looks very sony-ish to me. Highlights are not nice. Yada yada. need to see more! I would've bought one today, didn't come in to stock. I bought the speedbooster though, buggery bum.

I need to pull the pin on this or the G6 tomorrow. So Andrew: is the rolling shutter not too bad? Is the dynamic range and low light better than the G6/Gh3?

12Mpix on Apsc would be great for me: all apsc lenses available, all full frame lenses available via speedbooster. I could use my 14-24 at F2. Drool. Whilst you're at it throw in 5 axis stabilization. I'll hanging to see how the GH4's dynamic range stacks up to sony's.

Where's that clip gone? :)

I have the exact same query and am after the same thing as Liszon.

Urgh and then Andrew complicates things again this morning. That a6000 would let me get my hands on the sony 10-18 (or in fact the canon 10-22 again with an active adaptor). I wonder just how much better than the g6 the video is

thanks folks, the f4 of the 7-14 has put me off. I find the f2 equivalent of the 11-16 invaluable for what I do. Anyone want a second hand gh2?

I have a GH2, D800 and 60d. So far the GH4 looks like a very sensible next step, but typically I have 2 big jobs that need shooting before it'll be out. I have a speedbooster, and a growing collection of nikon glass. I do a lot of wide lens stuff currently with the tokina 11-16, but I miss the canon 10-22, bigger range and less barrel distortion. I shoot a bit of timelapse now and then Theres only about $250 separates g6, d5300, and gh3. Don't especially shoot in low light, but have found the gh2 blocky noise and fizz in the shadows to be an issue. If the G6 is no different in that regard I'll rule it out. (Some people say its better, some dont). I like the dynamic range of the d800 video, but thats about it. Really need a decent fast ultrawide for M43 or APSC too. (12mm doesn't cut it on M43, I need 7-9mm or 10-12 on apsc).

Maybe there is less thought going on there than there is here.  Nikon and olympus' lack of interest in this sector is also baffling.  They don't suffer from vertical integration.  They could release a raw shooting 1080p camera that would knock all the competition out of the park (save hacked 5d3) at the same price point.  The only reasons I can see they don't is SONY.      And as for them, I wonder how crippled the video will be on the next gen NEX cameras?   

Oh and if they do 4K raw, you can bet it will compete with the canon cinema cameras on price rather than the blackmagic :/