Julian

Andrews test video is in 1920x1280 (3:2), so 1707x1280 (4:3) would be nice! That would make 3414x1280 with a 2x stretch. Pretty sure it will scale up nicely to 4K.

Is there any camera that can do this? I never done it or wanted to do it.. but I'll give it a try.
 
@Andy: I'll check!

Warm welcome! Lovely images, nice grade!

Commander Chris Hadfield onboard The International Space Station has posted this amazing pop video he has shot a revised version of David Bowie's Space Oddity,
 
Stunning shots from space -
 
is this the most expensive pop video ever made to date???
 
the cost of building the station and flights to it means it must be!!
 
Some nice post production anamorphic flares added to it
 
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KaOC9danxNo
 

Is there any camera that can do this? I never done it or wanted to do it.. but I'll give it a try.
 
@Andy: I'll check!

Quick grading test (wetransfer)
 
GH2 original - G6 original - GH2 curve - G6 curve (same curve).
 
GH2 @ 1080p24 65Mbps - Smooth -2-2-2-2
G6 @ 1080p24 24Mbps - Natural -5-2-0-5
 
ISO 160, same aperture and shutter speed.
 
I'm really impressed. Shadow detail from the G6 is so much nicer, as is the grain. Even in the unedited footage of the hacked GH2 you see some dirty noise in the shadows. With the G6 it's a fine grain.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the Canon headquarters when they find out about this

Eagerly awaiting your Pocket Cinema Camera? You already have a micro for thirds camera and some C-mount lenses? Want to know if they will cover the sensor of the Pocket? Lets find out! I hope you will add your results, so we can make this list growing.
 
I will only add lenses to the lists when you have proof, in other words: images.
 
How?

Because we know the active sensor area of the BMPCC measures 12,48 x 7,02 mm, it is fairly easy to check if our C-mount lenses will cover the full sensor. Calculate this by taking a picture with a lens on your micro four thirds camera, and crop out the image area of theBMPCC.
 


In Photoshop:
Open the image. Go to Edit > Image Size, uncheck resample image. Change Image width to 19 centimeters, press ok Go to Image > Canvas Size, change dimensions to 12,48 x 7,02cm, press OK to crop the image to BMPCC size. Resize to 1920x1080 pixels Post your results! Note: If you shoot on the GH3 or other MFT camera's, the sensor size is 17 x 13mm, so change the width in step 3 to 17 cm!

To lazy to do it yourself or you can't work it out? Upload the full resolution files and I'll do it.

List terms explained:

Yes = covers the full sensor of the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera
No = doesn't cover the sensor
Needs modification = Doesn't fit on C-mount to M43-adapter without modifications
Equivalent = The focal length and depth equivalent on a fullframe camera (5D Mark III for example)

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera Compatibility list

Primes
 
Apollo 25mm f/0.85 - Yes = 72mm f/2.4 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Angenieux 10mm f/1.8 Retrofocus (Fixed Focus) - Yes (dark corners) = 28,8mm f/5.2 equivalent [link to proof] [more info]
 
Carl Zeiss Jena Tevidon 10mm f/2 - Yes - Needs modification = 28,8mm f/5.8 equivalent [link to proof] [more info]
Carl Zeiss Jena Tevidon 35mm f/1.9 - Yes - Needs modification = 101mm f/5.6 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Century 9mm f/1.8 - YES (poor quality) [link to proof]
 
Computar 8mm f/1.3 - NO [link to proof]
Computar 16mm f/1.4 - NO [link to proof]
Computar TV Lens 25mm f/1.8 - YES = 72mm f/5,2 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Cosmicar 8,5mm f/1.5 - NO [link to proof]
Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.8 - YES - Needs modification = 36mm f/5.2 equivalent [link to proof]
Cosmicar 25mm f/1.8 - YES - 72mm f/5.2 equivalent [link to proof]

Ernitec 6.5mm f/1.8 - YES (heavy distortion) [link to proof]
Ernitec/Navitar 17mm f/0.95 - YES (v. blurry corners & distortion) [link to proof]
 
Fujinon TV 12.5mm f/1.4 - Yes (blurry corners) - Mod.? (unknown) = 36mm f/4 equivalent [link to proof]
Fujinon TV 16mm f/1.4 - NO [link to proof]
Fujinon TV 35mm f/1.7 - YES - Needs modification = 101mm f/4.9 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Leitz Macro Cinegon 10mm f/1.8 - Yes (dark corners) = 28,8mm f/5.2 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Kern Switar 10mm f/1.6 - Yes (slight vignette & blurry corners) [link to proof]
 
Nikon Cine Nikkor 13mm f/1.8 - Yes =  37,5mm f/5.2 [link to proof]
Nikon Cine Nikkor 25mm f/1.8 - Yes = 72mm f/5.2 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Pentax 25mm f/1.4 - YES - 72mm f/4 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Schneider 10mm f/1.8 (silver version) - No (almost) [link to proof]
Schneider-Kreuznach Cinegon 11.5mm f/1.9 - No (almost) = 33mm f/5.6 equivalent [link to proof]
Schneider-Kreuznach Cine-Xenon 16mm f/2 - Yes = 46mm f/5.8 equivalent [link to proof] [link to proof (2)]
Schneider-Kreuznach Xenon 25mm f/0.95 - Yes = 72mm f/2.7 equivalent [link to proof]
Schneider Xenoplan 17mm f/1.7 - Yes (blurry corners) - [link to proof]
 
SLR Magic 11mm F1.4 - Yes - [link to proof] (added by EOSHD)
 
Tokina TV Lens  8mm f/1.3 - NO [link to proof]
Tokina TV Lens 16mm f/1.6 - NO [link to proof]
 
Taylor-Hobson Cooke Kinic 25mm f/1.3 - Yes = 72mm f/3.7 equivalent [link to proof]
Taylor-Hobson 25mm f/1.9 - Yes - 72mm f/5.6 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Wesley 25mm f/1.4 - YES = 72mm f/4 equivalent [link to proof]
 
Wollensak Cine Raptar 12.5mm f/1.5 - Yes = 36mm f/4.3 equivalent [link to proof]
Wollensak Cine Raptar 25mm f/1.9 - Yes = 72mm f/5.6 equivalent [link to proof]

$ 25 noname 25mm f/1.2 CCTV - YES = 72mm f/3.5 equivalent [link to proof]

Zooms
 
Ernitec 6-12mm f/1.4 - NO [link to proof]
 
Kowa TV Zoom 12.5-75mm f/1.8 - NO [link to proof]

Just bought a Leica Leitz Elpro VIIb for 30 euros. It's a +0,75 achromat, 54mm thread.. they don't come bigger, but probably useful on my baby anamorphics!
 

Quick grading test (wetransfer)
 
GH2 original - G6 original - GH2 curve - G6 curve (same curve).
 
GH2 @ 1080p24 65Mbps - Smooth -2-2-2-2
G6 @ 1080p24 24Mbps - Natural -5-2-0-5
 
ISO 160, same aperture and shutter speed.
 
I'm really impressed. Shadow detail from the G6 is so much nicer, as is the grain. Even in the unedited footage of the hacked GH2 you see some dirty noise in the shadows. With the G6 it's a fine grain.

And a quick macro test during a rainy Saturday afternoon.
 
http://vimeo.com/65995146
 

very nice price.
i would be tempted but my leica noctilux lens cap cost me 300 euros to replace.
the idea of drilling a hole into it fills me with wallet horror : )

i propose we kidnap tony wilson and hold him captive for as long as it takes to extract all relevant information.
 
and the irrelevant info too,.. dude has some great stories :D

Happy to help, I'm as curious as everybody else :)

I gotta say I disagree with a lot of posts in this thread. It says in the title 'total beginner'. I don't think recommending $1000+ glass is necessarily a good idea. As great as some of these recommendations are, dropping a large amount of money on a new hobby is never a good idea.

Taylor Hobson Serital 1" f1.9 (25mm)
Another old newsreel lens. Nabbed this one off ebay for £40 ($60) Bargain!   Focused at infinity at f1.9 and then f5.6 the Red box is the BM Pocket Cinema Camera crop  
Minimum focusing distance at f1.9 and f5.6
 
I'm happy I got a bargain with this one. Not good wide open, but then most lens' aren't.
Stop it down a bit and it gets really nice.
 
Should cover the PCC sensor with ease.
 
P.S. Don't judge these shots on their artistic merit, I just shoved the camera out the backdoor...

Taylor Hobson 1" f1.9 (25mm)
I think this is another Serital but it's not marked so I can't be sure. It looks very similar to the Serital but it's slightly longer and is slightly bigger in diameter. Focused at infinity at f1.9 and then f5.6  
Minimum focusing distance at f1.9 and f5.6
 
Again the Red box is the BM Pocket Cinema Camera crop
 
I chose the same subject matter for all three lens' in order that people looking
to get any of these can have some form of comparison.
Although hardly a scientific one.
 
I think I'll dig out my old Arri Schneiders and my Cooke tomorrow...

Taylor Hobson Super Comat 1" f1.9 (25mm)
 
It's an old newsreel lens I picked up when I bought a Filmo a few years ago.
Mines not great and it's tiny, which makes it a pig to use, but it works
(a minor miracle considering it's easily 60 years old)
Focused at infinity at f1.9 and then f5.6 the Red box is the BM Pocket Cinema Camera crop
 
 
Minimum focusing distance at f1.9 and f5.6
 
I'm using a red box rather than the canvas resize method because I find it easier
to judge the falloff on these old lens'.
 
My file naming has gone a bit pear shaped. Ignore the 'mm' after the f stop value in the picture titles

I think price vs what you get rules supreme for most.
 
The big fuss is about the aps-c line-up. Canon just doesn't have a competitive offering there right now imo.

Original shots first, then graded in DaVinci Resolve*
Panasonic G6 - 1080p24 @ 24Mbps
Profile: Natural
Contrast -5
Sharpness -2
Color 0
Noise Reduction -5

Panasonic GH2 hacked (moon trial 5) - 1080p24 @ ~70Mbps
Profile: Smooth
Contrast -2
Sharpness -2
Color -2
Noise Reduction -2

Always the same settings on both camera's. All shots at iso 160, with Panasonic 14mm 2.5 (on various apertures). White balance fixed (cloudy).

*The grades are just meant to show what happens to the image if you lift shadows for example. Not meant to improve the image. Each shot from both camera's is graded exactly the same, except for the last shot (extreme grade), which is made to match both camera's for brightness/contrast.
 
If you ask me, the G6 eats GH2's for breakfast. On YT the difference isn't that big, the fine grain of the G6 is made into the same garbage as the GH2 because of the compression. On the last extreme grade shot it is pretty clear on YouTube though.
 
Will upload originals later.
 
Here some screengrabs from the last grade (lifted the shadows with a huge curve in a power window on the right).
Watch in full res - 1080p!
 
G6

 
GH2

 
This almost makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong with my GH2, but it really does spit out files with bitrates up to 150Mmbps (the scene I posted earlier) with the Moon Trial 5 hack.
 
Anyway. I want this camera!

Quick grading test (wetransfer)
 
GH2 original - G6 original - GH2 curve - G6 curve (same curve).
 
GH2 @ 1080p24 65Mbps - Smooth -2-2-2-2
G6 @ 1080p24 24Mbps - Natural -5-2-0-5
 
ISO 160, same aperture and shutter speed.
 
I'm really impressed. Shadow detail from the G6 is so much nicer, as is the grain. Even in the unedited footage of the hacked GH2 you see some dirty noise in the shadows. With the G6 it's a fine grain.

Going to do some more testing today. Going to include some grading tests as well.
 
Just did a very quick test with a detailed scene with the Moon Trial 5 24p hack at 150Mbps. The GH2 does show more detail in this case, but that shouldn't be very surprising :)
 
Sharpness -2 on both camera's.
 
GH2 @ 150Mbps:

 
G6 @ 24Mbps

 
Next week I'll compare the G6 to the EOS 100D ;)

I want to get my hands on a Panasonic G6  sooooon!
I've not seen one in the UK yet - Julian's tests look very promising!
the Future for me is still Panasonic
that little GH2 sensor is Dynamite!!

Quick grading test (wetransfer)
 
GH2 original - G6 original - GH2 curve - G6 curve (same curve).
 
GH2 @ 1080p24 65Mbps - Smooth -2-2-2-2
G6 @ 1080p24 24Mbps - Natural -5-2-0-5
 
ISO 160, same aperture and shutter speed.
 
I'm really impressed. Shadow detail from the G6 is so much nicer, as is the grain. Even in the unedited footage of the hacked GH2 you see some dirty noise in the shadows. With the G6 it's a fine grain.

Quick grading test (wetransfer)
 
GH2 original - G6 original - GH2 curve - G6 curve (same curve).
 
GH2 @ 1080p24 65Mbps - Smooth -2-2-2-2
G6 @ 1080p24 24Mbps - Natural -5-2-0-5
 
ISO 160, same aperture and shutter speed.
 
I'm really impressed. Shadow detail from the G6 is so much nicer, as is the grain. Even in the unedited footage of the hacked GH2 you see some dirty noise in the shadows. With the G6 it's a fine grain.