Rudolf

It is rather funny and a good amusement that these discussions are popping up again and again. At least every time when there is a new cheap solution. And in the meantime we had so many "game changers" that I already forgot the name of the game. Thank you Tito, for sharing your experiences. Tinkering with that kinda stuff is also a good amusement for many people: Adding inserts, filters, grease on the glass and even bigger bumper stickers "super-duper-anamorphic". Sorry didn't want to be offensive. This Siriu seems to bit a show off lens compared to what it does. These Suriu, FM lens, SLR, Vazen, Bolex-System Möller, Isco-Göttingen, Century, Optex, Pana LA7200, bla bla bla they are all toys and we like to play. It should be mentioned though that Isco had the longest experience in anamorphics and developed the most versatile best all around system. They put in the biggest effort. They offered everything the photographer (development on special paper) needed as well as for the small gauge shooter. Including solutions for cameras an projectors. Their program included trips and workshops. It was addressed to the wealthy enthusiast. Looking at old price list the prices were always very high. Throughout the range quality was incredible. My Isco-LeitzCinegon combo is the sharpest you can get for super-8. They made special stuff for Beaulieu. Schneider Optivaron with the 54 is a dream. And you know the good diopters Tito. That all was not enough! You know how the Iscorama-dream ended. As so often the quality was too pricey. To sum it up: There is no evolution/revolution! It is just getting cheaper because of chinese production and inferior quality. But that is for sure ok! Diversity is good. And if you shoot in 4k, 8k or whatever... who cares. But when Caleb shoots 16mm he needs something proper as he mentioned. And keep in mind: Some day you could be in need of other focal lengths. And then the price advantage will decrease as you have to buy more lenses. So a maybe not so cheap adapter could be the toy of your life. But for many it is the search, the hunt and the tinkering what it is all about. I like good movies. I think 99% don't care if their favorite movies are shot spherical or whatever. But it is a difference if you project a "real" movie in anamorphic. I like your work Tito!!! ?

Sorry I really don't get the point of that lens except it might be cheap (if you only want to shoot at 50m). The image is so dull and boring to say the least. Don't get me wrong Tito: You are really into what you are doing and very dedicated but as a long time "vanilla" hobbyist I am - I would not waste my money for something like that. I liked your video but honestly subtract slowmo and music and just judging on the image you'd be better of with a more beautiful spherical lenses. If you cannot afford a better looking lens or don't have the patience and dedication to cope with other solutions better don't bother. I mean honestly if you are willing to spent 2,000 for an Iscorama you get the most versatile best looking image you can dream of for that cheap. Still such a bargain compared to this! (Sorry for moaning and coming up with the "iscorama-prayer mill" )

Really liked this lens! And the price is absolutely ok?

I just care about good looking results? And if the tools are less expensive - even better.

Yes

I was creating content for VR but they ditched the project because of the lack of resolution. Might be ok for gaming but not for this particular purpose. I am also creating images at 16000x12000 therefore a better monitor would be nice. When it comes to movies I love watching super-8 feature films mostly because of the colors. It is like a painting versus digital print

Oh yes please... I want that cinematic-filmic-sci-fi-look for cheap. I want my footage look professional. Especially sun rays shining through leaves. And ordinary people downtown (in slow-motion of course). Add some musicians work and I am good to go! Looking forward to show "my work" on YT.

Hello everybody, I'm selling a couple of diopters. They are all in good shape (Tokina and Tamron nos). - 72mm Kaiser +1 - 72mm Pallas (made in Japan) +1 - 67mm B+W 0.5 -55mm Kenko achromat 0.0 -72mm Tamron (threaded!) 0.5 -72mm Tokina 0.5 I don't have a clue about pricing. I consider Tito's list from page one outdated?! So just drop me a line when you are interested.

Nice! Just tried it with ELMO II and Pana 35-100 (GH5 VLOG L). Interesting combo because autofocus sometimes helps double focus

Elmo II is top notch. Elmo built some very advanced projectors and good cameras. They were and are still used by pros. Tito just had a poor example for his test. For the looke I like Moeller even more but sadly the rear is smaller. Moeller is king! Had them all and sold them. I am an idiot...

Wow! You did a great job. Never tried my Isco on a gimbal. Looks very good. Color is also superb. Just a suggestion: maybe there is too much movement and slowmotion. For dramatic and dynamic reason it could be used more sparingly?!

I've been filming Super8 with anamorphics a lot. The Iscomorphot is the grand daddy of Iscoramas and from the 8mm area. Maybe you could try the cheap Cosina/Revue pocket camera. They were sometimes sold with Baby Hypergonards (rarely) when I remember right. I have seen footage from that combo (hurt my eyes). I recommend using stock with very little grain: Kodak 50D. The grain will be stretched and become more prominant.

This is so bad. Even filmed with a mobile phone from the white wall looks much better (when you can control the speed of the projector). Ochoypico in Madrid do a great job with a self built scanner and very affordable. Sorry got you wrong because you mentioned Kodachrome which is K14 and cannot be developed since they shut down the last lab in 2010. Thanks for your videos and comparison. Very interesting. Astonishing how good super 8 can keep up with S16 in quality (when I compare with some of my films). But still I prefer shooting film and projecting it on a big screen instead of watching d16 footage on 5kmac. Unfortunately for 16mm you need much more space and the projectors are even more noisy.

A shame...? If you really think of shooting S16 you'd get an Aaton or Arri and you're fine. I think it is a shame they did not go the Polaroid direction to bring back analogue to the masses. Which is right now very successful. As same as records and soon cassettes and tape. Mattias thank you for your input and being positive. But there is something in between filming professional at big budget (S16) or filming as an enthusiast and trying to get good results. With a good camera (like the Leicina Spezial with its great sharpness and good registration) and Kodak 50D with nearly no grain you can achieve remarkable results which people often think are S16! Of course the material had to be proper scanned by pros and no DIY, Reflecta, Moviescanner... (prior scanning film has to be washed and you don't want that super sensitive negative being scratched by shitty scanners and operators). If you are talking about pro stuff think about scanners like Cintel Millennium, Spirit Classic and so on And I am still scratching my head how you managed to develop Kodachrome (k14) in color...

Kodak missed the point! Bring back reversal film (Kodachrome, E100D) as soon as possible. And a cheap good camera like the Canon 310 and easy to use projector. The magic of motion picture film comes with the projection. All the hassle and the costs to watch the film on Vimeo, Youtube... For small digital screen digital video is just fine! http://gmpphoto.blogspot.de/2015/03/leicina-special-best-super-8-camera-ever.html

Ok, understood: You are never too old to do your home lessons... Thanks! On the other hand we are not talking about big money here... BTW I have learnt something new: Never heard FUD... And big thanks for your research. Those test footage looks really artificial and blurry. I still love old school ergonomics over software. I am an old man

Yes... during long and cold nights the myths and tales from cheap Iscoramas on ebay and flea markets are told... Well, miracles do happen. But can you wait for one? But be careful of evil guys offering Iscoramas for less than $1,000. I made some experiences... Good luck!

Thanks a lot. I nearly bought it. That would probably have been a waste in my case. I will rely on my tripod

I am very intrigued of this. I am still on GH4. Sometimes I use a gimbal but as I prefer shooting anamorphic thats could be as solution as I think IBIS is a problem anyway? Hmmm... why is the workflow cumbersome? Found it in the FAQs - it is somewhat cumbersome!

+++++Breaking News: Panasonic is actually developing a tripod with IBIS++++++++

The answer is very simple I think: What do you expect from an anamorphic lens? You want a "cinematic" image with loads of character and get red of videoish look. Probably flare, bokeh... Unfortunately all those new Schneider/Isco don't get the job done. Why? Because they were built for the oposite thing - just project! a super clean, sharp neutral image. These are not tools for filmaking. I like to compare it with the use of speakers. You would not use a Yamaha Monitor One as a substitute for a Marshall speaker or VOX AC30 if you play guitar. So better avoid the hassle and shoot sperical and crop if you don't want to invest in expensive glass.

Hi Milton Nice shots and once again a very nice example for the beauty of vintage glass! Congrats to your tiny sweet YashicaScope! Why buy boring overpriced knew projection lenses? They are only great for projection!

I have the GH4 and there is also a very convenient combo especially for run and gun: You can pair the 35-100 2.8 quite nicely with the Iscorama. You have a light weight, stabilized zoom combo. Even autofocus does work (so so). Of course it has not the character like a combo with old basic-vintage primes but it works quite nice and adds some character to the sterile GH4/5 video. ....Ah sorry.... got something wrong here: I read Iscorama and 1.5 stretch... and thought you own one :-) You should also watch out for ELMOSCOPE II They are cheaper then Kowa B+H and I am sure they are on the same level (sorry Tito: loved your comparison but I think you had a bad Elmo for the test ;-) ) In fact Elmo had and still has the best reputation and made the best projectors and fantastic projection lenses. I own four projectors and several lenses. My Elmoscope II is brilliant and easily as good as my Iscoramas and Moeller.

Thank you very much for the invitation Ian and rest assured: I WILL! There are much too many grey days nowadays ;-)

so beautiful and heartwarming on a cold, rainy and grey day here in Hamburg (northern hemisphere ;-) ) Thank you very much for posting!