XXX

  Always amazed how much photographers suck at filming.

I guess there are good reasons Nikon never entered the video market. Canon started to address professionals years ago with the XL1 (and of course had many cams for the consumer market) and Nikon never seemed to want a piece of that. So I somehow don´t believe that suddenly the low selling/high service "pro video" market is that attractive. They even haven`t entered the medium format market, sth much more obvious for a photo company and a recent "trend" for photographers, who want/need to distinguish themselves from all the D800 "strobists" out there. But taking the HDSLR crown from Canon, that course seems to be set...

I bought the GH3 as a run'n gun HDSLR and IMHO it totally fails in this regard. This boils down to the combination of 3 "non-features" Andrew already mentioned: the poorly designed record button, the "sleeping" screen issue and the missing focus assists while recording. Another issue that is basically the "fault" of the m43 design for video, are the small lenses, at least for me. I´m not really complaining though, considering price, the great IQ and that it still is a hybrid, that was primarily build to take great photos, it offers very good value. It just seems, that no one wants to really offer a fully functional video mode in a DSLR form factor. The Canon C series is a step in the right direction (except with the XLR-Screen-Handle), but with an disgusting pricing-for-features policy. Even used I still find them overpriced. Without great speculation, I´m sure the Panasonic ProVideo division is ankle deep in producing a "larger sensor" show winner for next years NAB, after focusing on broadcasters buying cycles this year. But it will most likely be in a hole different form factor.

Yeah and for even only getting 8bit ProRes out of a (Nikon) Dslr you´ll need an external recorder and SSDs... We have more options these days, but choosing the right setup and worklfow still is a Zelda quest...

Dang.

I kind of new the EU version doesn´t have 60p and for slomos this would have been a tad nicer than 50p, but I didn´t pay much attention to it. Now I have a client from the states who needs 30p and I can´t offer it. I looked at the new Nikons and Canons and they all seem to be switchable! How come the GH3 isns´t? Is there a way to put a US firmware on it temporaryly?

Why should NAB bring another filming m43 camera from Panasonic? They basically put everything a true hybrid should offer into the GH3  ;)  At least I hope they don´t canonize their portfolio and offer a moire free 422 GHX at double the GH3 price..   But the NEED to gain ground in the larger sensor segment, being the first into this game with the AF100, doesn´t count much these days (think BMCC). Also, although GHX sound nice, Panasonic has a much better brand name to revibe: VARICAM. So for me the obvious contender to take on at NAB is the FS700.  This price range is also perfect for taking on the C300...

I´ve recently shot with the C300 and it´s LCD seems to be on the greenish side, no matter what angle you see it from. So I guess, considering the GH3s price point, we´ve been still served well...

Cameras are cars. Seriously. One model, 5 different engines (well, more like one negine, five different cars around it when it comes to Canon APS-C). And for ones that need the extra bling, they pimp it a little and slap a different brand name one it, in this case "Cinema". I don´t hate Canon. I made very good money thanks to them the last years. But they´re like a small restaurant, that gets popular, prices up like crazy and suddenly calls their home fries "pommes frittes"...

Has anyone encountered a color shift to green when not looking at their GH3s back LCD perfectly straight? Screens tend to get darker when looking more from the side, but this shift to green is really distracting, at least for me...  

What about camera setting/color profile?

Only got a Sirui Monopod but it´s rock solid. The fastening mechanism is as goo as on my Gitzo boom.

Saw it projected in a multiplex cinema, but forgot to ask, if it was a digital projection. Anyways, I would be interested, if the DVD/Bluray Version will be straight from XDCAM or a scan of the 35mm copy...

Getting a certain look in-camera always was the DPs job, be it for movies or documentary. Not saying that things shouldn't progress and there are A LOT of situations I`m happy to be able to shoot flat. But for Blanche´s situation, travel documentary, I´d opt for the best in-camera look, expose properly and roll. And then you can really say "I did that." ;)

I would be interested how the 2,5K RAW looks down converted in post to 1080p ProRes in comparison to recording ProRes with the BMC straight away. Andrew, any chance you could do that for a short segment of your footage...?

Would be interested too, could you make it an open post, please?

Are you gonna post some footage...?

"The GH3 required just 4 lux of light to produce an image that crossed 50 IRE on a waveform monitor. We use 50 IRE as it’s a standard norm for broadcast brightness, and that result puts the GH3 in some solid company. While larger full-frame cameras perform well here as a matter of course, the GH3 holds its own, even if the final image is a bit of a noisy mess." http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Panasonic-Lumix-GH3-Digital-Camera-Review/Video.htm I just need good lowligt. If it´s worse than Canon APS-C then help us gawd... But, I guess more visual tests will follow, from dedicated video guys, so still patience... ;)

Well, in body IS paired with fast primes is a combination many doc-style shooters can use, isn´t it? And considering image quality - I just haven't seen enough from the A99 to make final judgements - have you guys? Moire still seems to plague most cameras... The A99 won´t sell like hot cake at the current entry price, but this should change soon, when units start collecting on the shelves;) If low light and dynamic range proof to be on par with the D800 and 5DIII, the IS alone could be a selling point for me... The sensor crop function is also nice, the articulating screen too and the pricey XLR option is, well, pricey but unique and at least by looks, more elegantly solved than using a Beachtek/Juicelink adapter.

I've seen this [media]http://vimeo.com/52031763[/media] with some great shots in it, but nobody seems to care much about the A99 - or am I just not checking the right forums?

Hey Foggyflute, could you also do some portraits (interview situation) under daylight and tungsten to get a better feel for GH3 skintones? Would be great thanks!

I beg to differ that "most" people use an external monitor. I guess no mater what brand of DSLR most of the people doing run'n gun/docu/event work just use a loup. Of course this is my "guestimation", just like yours ;) But a better LCD could mean, more people will slim-down their setup, at least for some shots. The GH3 was a let down for me at first. But I guess, as Andrew put it, it all comes down to "perspective". Pana didn´t produce the kill-em-all VDSLR with this one, maybe because of slow AF100 sales, maybe just because the GH2 needed to improve primarily photo wise. BUT with a headphone out and high bitrate codecs for less than half the price of the Canon MIII or the Nikon D600 (not half price, but no internal HQ codec) they CLEARLY addressed the pro-video shooter. Again, not much there for guys who'd expected a babyRED and want to shoot high-budget stuff on low-budget cameras (for whatever reason...), but for me the GH3 could end up being the always dreamed of small-form-factor-digital-16mm-documentary-style camera ;) U N L E S S the others come out with a APS-C camera offering ruffly the same for videoshooters as the GH3: New 7D, or new D7000. APS-C still is the sweet spot for me personally, when it comes to sensor size. Pana needs fast delivery this time and an attractive final street price to get a bigger share of the non FF market, lets see...

[color=#222222][font='Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)] Funny how all the new cameras look similar, boxes with lensmounts. Of course the box form plays along well with the trend to a more modular design. The Canon EOS Cinema line differs and even if I´m still not a fan of C300 images, I´m a big fan of its form factor. Anyways, Panasonic has to up the ante at NAB next year... [/background][/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='tomekk' timestamp='1351388350' post='20462'] Side note: I also hate that 5dMK3 is not true 1080p. I think canon should put BMCC quality into 5dmk3 body + great low light with FF sensor so I could get the perfect product (price wise: I'd eat current price of the 5dmk3. Although, if it was for 10$ then that would be awesome ;)). Yeah, it's a shame canon hasn't improved resolution since 5dmk2 and I absolutely hate it. I need FF for wide angles (dark, club shots, ppl dancing, not much space - any ideas ?) (I'm a newbie and was waiting for 5dmk3 and then they didn't deliver :((. I don't whine on a public forum, though, cause it's a waste of everyones time. [/quote] You started a "no whining thread" but whine yourself? So if I got my Freud right, your basically projecting your own shortcoming onto others. Dude, seriously get some help. And puberty is only the beginning, it gets worse, so fast my friend, dial that number...

You could add other Pools from more cameras and in the end people will choose the pictures they like the most, no matter which camera was used. Only same scene, same setup fotos can show a true comparison. Still, the OM-D fotos in that pool generally seem to be graded more heavily, but since the setting often is more street/snapshot, I guess people prefer a slightly "hipstamatic" look... Can the D7000 video hold up with Canon APS-C or the GH2? Never looked much into Nikon I must admit, only the D800 (and now D600), but actually I prefer APS-C for my work...