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You would expect the 1DC to be better. A lot better. It's 2.5x the price (and 2.5x heavier) than the A7RII. I don't think it justifies the extra cost (and weight). Besides, the OP was asking for advice on the A7S vs A7RII. In my view, the latter. Internal 4K, IBIS and high res stills swing it for me.

​Seriously?? This can't be right!

Same here. Quite bizarre given that this is a hybrid. I watched a daggy Panasonic marketing video earlier today on the LX100 and had to laugh at the way they pitched the fact that you "simply" rotate multiple dials to alternate between Aperture or Shutter priority. It would have been even more amusing if they showed that you need to rotate two dials just to choose 1/50s.

The retro controls make sense on something like a Fuji X100 which is primarily a stills camera. But this cockamamy routine that requires you to rotate 3 dials (aperture ring, shutter dial, rear dial) every time you alternate between shooting stills in aperture priority and video at 1/50s is pretty poor. What shutter speed does the LX100 choose if you just leave the shutter dial set to A and hit the record button? Does it default to 1/50s (assuming you've selected 25P)?

Thanks Andrew. That works for me. I assume the custom settings override aperture ring and shutter speed dial settings. If so, do you just leave the aperture ring and shutter dial both on A, and program custom 1, say, for shutter priority with speed set to 1/50s?

Nice review Andrew. And very timely. How practical are the retro aperture/shutter speed dials? For example, let's say I want to alternate between shooting video in shutter priority (at 1/50s) and shooting stills in aperture priority, do I need to constantly rotate the aperture and shutter dials to effect these settings, or can I simply program these settings into custom memory?

Thanks Peter. This is the most helpful writeup I've seen to date on the LX100. I'll likely just use this as a holiday cam. Quick question. My preferred mode for stills is aperture priority and for video, shutter priority with the shutter speed set to 1/50s. Is it possible to set the custom memories to reflect these settings? I'm hoping that the custom memory settings will override the LX100's dopey aperture ring and shutter dial. Will

Hopefully, you're right on the first point. I agree, the moire is disappointing. The image stabilisation is also quite mediocre, based on the CameraLabs footage, which will limit the ability of this camera to be used hand-held.

Are you sure? The CameraLabs review states that there's no filter thread : "There's also no filter thread on the LX100, nor an optional accessory for mounting them, although there is a bayonet for the optional auto lens cap that suggests it could be possible in the future or via a third-party." In looking at this high-res image, I can't see a filter thread: '>

How do you shoot video in bright conditions with the LX100 with no internal ND filter and no external filter thread ??

Given that you've sounded the death knell for Canon EOS, perhaps you should change the name of your site from EOSHD to AlphaHD :)

Thanks for the suggestions, but you've just reaffirmed my point. Setting the shutter speed to 1/25 or 1/50 sec, for example, now requires that I rotate rotate two dials. And I'm not sure how well the rear rotary dial works, but in general they are clumsy. I much prefer a (programmable) top dial. Video shooters will need to faff about just to make basic changes/settings with lots of button presses and using multiple dials to make one setting.

Sure, it will suit photographers. But it's going to be PITA for those that shoot video. Where's the 1/25 sec setting on the shutter speed dial? Where's the custom mode settings dial that allows you to rapidly switch between stills and video mode?

The control arrangement on this camera is CRAP, full stop. Why on Earth did Panasonic follow Fuji with the "cute" retro X100 series? The Fuji is effectively only a stills only camera. I shoot video in manual mode and stills in aperture priority, and the not being able to seamlessly alternate between these modes is a show stopper. Sony is often criticised for poor haptics/design but even the little RX100m3 has a dial that allows you to easily switch between video and photo modes. The built in ND filter which can be readily activated is also a major bonus.

I'm not so sure. 4K for cinema related content, particularly at high frame rates, may put people off. I watched The Hobbit in 4K/48fps and did not enjoy it at all. I preferred the 2k/24P version by a country mile.

I'm far more distracted by the constant camera jerking than rolling shutter.

This could have been near perfect except for two, maybe three, showstoppers. 1. Lousy 28mbps bit rate for 1080P 2. No in-built ND filter (tiny cameras like the Ricoh GR and RX100m3 can accommodate one). 3. Panasonic need to stop living in the 70's and do away with this NTSC/PAL mentality. Why are they still doing one lot of bodies with NTSC frame rates and a different lot with PAL rates. This is BS!

Are you a Panasonic spruiker? The RX100m3 and FZ1000 are totally different cameras. One fits in your pocket, the other is a monster (as you say) that's 6x larger and 4x heavier.

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Inazuma, thanks for posting this A6000/GX7 comparison video. I much prefer the image coming from the A6000. In looking, for example, at the horizontal edges of the brickwork in the large building on the right, you can see very distinct aliasing/jaggies in the GX7 footage. This is also evident on the weatherboards of the smaller/closer building. This issue is not visible in the A6000 footage. This aliasing in the GX7 footage is ugly and gives it a very abrasive look. The A6000 has a little moire but, overall, the image just looks more organic.

It would be far more meaningful / helpful to see actual video footage shot with both cameras.

Yes, same here. I have not yet seen any comparison videos shot with both the GX7 and A6000 to see, first hand, how they perform in these conditions.

It would be helpful if you could post comparison videos shot with both the GX7 and A6000. I've not seen anything to date which demonstrates that the GX7 is that much better than the A6000.

It would be great if you could include some actual footage in your review so we can all see first hand how these two cameras compare.

Now here's a very interesting comment from Philip Bloom: "Excellent 1080p image, detailed with few artefacts. Must be one of the best HD images from a stills camera I have seen, apart from the Super 35mm mode on the Canon 1DC" He actually prefers the HD image from the A6000 over the GH4.