tomekk

  No, innovation doesn't make money. Implying their profit has gone down due to lack of innovation as a main factor is ridiculous.

+1000

wow, should look like that with 80-90k USD spent on their 2 zoom cine lenses (30-300 14.5-60). Would be pretty pissed if they didn't deliver.

  Just bought it on ebay  Paying more for postage to europe than for the magazine itself!!!!! ;). Hope it's worth it =)

guys, where is gopro ?

  Crackers would be all over it.

add gh2 :)

1. buy 1DC 2. Read this article 3. ???? 4. profit I guess the problem for majority is with 3 Andrew ;).  LOL

This is really getting interesting. I wonder why there is no regulation on for example what actors/models you can hire. Definitely you shouldn't be allowed to pay to little for worse quality. Well, yeah you should be forced to lower margins as well. There is no reason for your margins. LMAO The other solution is to just compensate for more expensive labour and make the price higher (that's what actually happens most of the time. External cost of your work goes up, final price goes up. Thought you know this basic law)

  This is really not the place for talking about it so I won't reply after this post. Make another thread if u want further discussion or send me a msg. First - it's not politics. It's economics.   You post is based on the assumption that somehow prices will not be affected by more expensive labour. I can't see logic in it. You would prefer to make production more expensive (by eliminating cheap labour) and rather overpay for a product you could get cheaper if cheap labour was allowed. Interesting logic, but I guess most people want lower prices, not higher. Me included. If I can get same quality product cheaper then I'd prefer to buy cheaper one. Sure, you can eliminate cheap labour but don't expect final price of the product to stay the same.   Think about it this way: competition. Sure, you can boycott chinese... hell why only chinese. Let's boycott everything that's not UK made. Ban ALL cheaper products which are not uk made (that's what you're suggesting, expensive you don't have to ban - nobody will buy them :D). So what we got now? UK prices, and UK only products, huurraaayyy!!! Who's profiting? UK manufactures, hurrraaayyy!. Who's losing - customer... wait.. huurrayyy?? Good luck with repairing economy this way.   What you SHOULD pay for a product SHOULD NOT be controlled / enforced. Free market ensures it's the most optimal price that can be set. If you want to control it, you are on the way to socialism. Cheap labour is good for economy because first and foremost you are a customer and you want low prices and biggest possible competition. Making things expensive is not the way to go. It's the opposite of reparing the economy. As you can see it's not as easy as let's get rod of the imigrants and non-uk companies. It doesn't work that way. Actually, it's exactly the opposite. Most things you buy, don't produce. So let's say it's good for you as a producer to get rid of cheaper competition. Ultimately for you as a producer the best situation would be if there was NO competition in your field. It's not good for you customers though. So if you buy most things, you lose out most of the time if you limit cheaper force. You want to ban chinese? Go ahead, but the only outcome is bad for economy because you are limiting competition.

This is a little bit offtopic but I'd like to point out you got it backwards. Customers want the lowest possible price for the best possible product. So by saying greedy do you mean yourself? Companies in order to deliver what customers want look for ways to make production as cheap as possible for customers. It's good for everyone. Don't want to make it long so I stop here.

  I don't get this part. James said optical performance increases due to image compression. So I guess the question is: by how much?

Total depth of field is virtually constant with focal length. Only limit with FF sensor is you can't use this thingy on it so u can't get faster apertures so yeah ;)

Just to confirm. Does it mean all the high end L glass will be faster with better quality on a crop sensor? For example 24mm 1.4 which had FOV equivalent to 38mm on FF will have 24mm FF FOV with improved quality (will be 1.0 or whatever the math is).   WOW, If this is true, implications can potentially destroy FF cameras lines (unless it'll be possible to do similar magic for FF sensors). Companies could now make much better lenses for smaller sensor which outperform all the best lenses that exist now. By better I mean, they'll fix AF issues which from what I understand is the only known downside to this converter at the moment. The question is when should I start selling my L primes and DSLR before nobody will buy them ;). sigh

wow, time to buy gh3 ;)

^^ on the other hand you go and party like resolution is the most important apsect of video making. I have moved on. Also who are you to tell what kind of  margins are high and what price is O.K. for a product you don't make.

  The only problem I have with GH3/GH2 is show me a pro photographer shooting professionally stills with it. GH2/GH3 is only addition, it's not a hybrid. It'll never beat canons/nikons system for stills with superior range of lenses and flexibility. It'll never beat FF sensor for stills. It's nice for extra resolution in video - if you need it, it loses in everything else.   Add the fact canon at some point in the future will adjusts to the competition. They will have to. They can easily crush GH3 if they want to. When it happens, you're ahead if u already know their system. It is very likely that they'll stay at the top of the photogpraphy industry with their cameras.

  @1) yeah, but what to do when I want to shoot stills? Does this adapter support AF? @2) yeah, but can it match 5dmk3 in low light? @3) yeah, but what if i want wider than 24mm. @4) yeah, but can I be "hybrid" pro with it? Will pros start using it @weddings etc???

  that is if they don't need better, future proof lenses, better low light, wide angles and superior stills camera features.

  When competition catches up, they'll lower the price and make adjustement. It doesn't make logical sense to do it earlier. It's like me saying competition is weak in video market cause you guys charge sooo muuch for your work. In the future, when we have raw in iphones and 1000x more processing power + many more educated ppl in video industry you won't be able to sell your work at current prices. LMAO.

  How about you apply to canon for some sort of business position with your indepth analysis.

haha lol, I assumed they would be better. don't own any pro cards. Funny stuff.

  This is not true. Some of them probably yes. However, it's a tiny percentage. Rest is just marketing b*shit. If this was true, they wouldn't lock the multiplier because what would be the point?? In the past I used to sell overclocked CPUs (for extra money when I was a student). 95% of CPUs you could overclock to the fastest version. In case of GPUs it is similar + obviously they cripple consumer cards to protect PRO cards like quadros. 1) Drivers in quadros are superior. they include instructions that are not available in consumer cards improving performance in some instances. 2) Top pro card will have more RAM than top consumer card. Same principle: slightly better drivers + a little bit more memory == double the price ? Soo, what is the price difference between pro and consumer?

@ALL. Hey guys, this is pointless. Everyone DOES it. Maybe you'll focus on something more productive if you finally understand it. This whole post is useless. Think about INTEL / AMD making ONE CPU and then selling it at different prices points depending on the speed they choose. Most CPUs could be overclocked to the fastest ones. NVIDIA/ATI Most cards can be overclocked to the fastest ones. CARS > diesel engines. Most can be chipped to get the performance of the strogest versions. Your true love APPLE - learn how to sell overpriced products and it BEATS hands down Canon in products crippling (Iphones) So what's your point Andrew? This is how world works. This is how companies make money. If you whine about canon then go and whine about the whole world but what is the point? I mean I like it if you encourage some russian hacker to hack 1DX  =) hehe.

in 5dmk3 you pay extra for the AF imho. That's for stills shooters obv.