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The C200 is my dream camera for sure.

No idea what 200 Euros = USD (too lazy to look) but sounds like for about $800 you can have a pretty dope 35mm F/1.8 equiv 4k beast with good in body IS. Why am I shooting Sony again?

Won't the card write speed ultimately be the shortcoming here?

Remember, Andrew - the C-Log on the 1DC was manual exposure only as well? I do, and it was frustrating. It's not that way on the Cx00 series. Silly Canon. Is there an additional crop from 24 to 30p in 4k? (or 25/30 for you across the pond)?

Assuming I agree 100% with everything you said (I don't at all). Why are you here? Ask yourself why? You're not shooting when you're posting this nonsense either Mr. Hypocrite.

I have an 8 plus. You shoot anything besides casual walk around good light close up items? I'll post my best MOON pic with a real camera, and you show me yours with a phone. $1000 cash says mine is so much better. What phone is going to shoot my kids playing sports with ANY sort of detail at 200 feet away? Talking video. Up next, I'll show up and do another wedding video with my phone. Clients will love that; I'll tell them webrunner5 sent me. I have to get out this thread; can't waste any more time arguing with people who just don't get it.

Show me how easy it is to see the damn phone screen in bright sunlight. Make mine a EVF every time. Shot some footage at Gatorland in June during mid-day and I had to point and "guess" with my iphone. Literally could not see a damn thing with that Florida sun.

And you could get walk around with easy manual focus / peaking with that sweet Nokton 25mm F/0.95 with 5 axis stabilization. I still have some GH2 footage I shot wide open with that lens from 2011 and it holds up pretty well 7 years later. It's not the worst idea I've seen on here and I love the price. Some people shoot things far away....like sports, wildlife. What 300 2.8 amI going to put on my iphone 8 plus and shoot my son playing travel baseball from beyond center field? What 600-1200mm equivalent can I shoot the moon with and get any detail on my phone? No offense, but for YOU perhaps it doesn't make sense, but you don't speak for everyone else. All tiny sensor phones SUCK in low light. So yeah - shooting casual video of things up close and in good light - you may not see that big of a difference. Throw a bright lens on a micro 4/3rds in difficult light and it sings.

Is it a full 2x crop then? So not 2.2?

Adobe is killing Lightroom? Do you have a link for the changes? Or just Lightroom classic?

This thread has it all - not released yet; but "beat every full frame camera ever, past present and future" (despite all the lack of info we have right now) to "camera sucks". Only on EOSHD can you get such a wide range of speculation! The crop monkey is not pleased.

I had the 1dxII after owning the 1dC and multiple 1dx's. For me it' didn't have the mojo of the 1DC or C100 Mark II if I'm completely honest. Hated working with those huge files, no EVF, 1080p120 was very, very soft. Great sports camera but I didn't love it for the money. But I'm a hobbyist.

I thought it'd be given on the a7sII, which came out after the a72 and a7r2. That's why I will mention it - should have been in the last version.

Like I've said the very first thing is dumping the slow CDAF that's in the A7s/A7SII and implementing PDAF for better AF tracking. Seems like video AF is on everyone's radar these days.

I could see Sony reusing the existing A7sII 12MP sensor and updating the memory slots, battery, menu and a couple other new tweaks and calling it a day. Got to save something for the A7sIV you know...

Well, the a7rII and a7ii both had PDAF while the a7S2 didn't (and was released after those two. Don't know if it's a foregone conclusion. Dual card slots, updated battery is.

Don't think I've seen this in this thread, but first and foremost I need PDAF AF in video mode; not the slow CDAF that was in a7S+a7sII. Second, I'd love to see that super high slowmo enabled that they have in the 1" sensor cameras and the FS700/FS5 - the 1080/240. How great would non-cropped full frame 1080/240 be? Third, a flip out screen would be great. Do we even care if it's 12 or 20 megapixels? I don't. A7s in a pinch took wonderful stills. I don't need it to be a landscape camera...

I'll go for the z6 with the non-binned FF 4k. Not thrilled with their native lens options, but sure love the videos I'm seeing so far. Hate the 1 card slot, but hey - I can't do 1.0x - 1.8x crop in 4k. It'll be a great "for fun" camera to play with for $2k. Just wish they'd make it available already...:) Oh, and thank you Andrew Reid for hosting this site and having a great thread to read more about all this gear on. We (I) may not say it enough, but we appreciate what you do for the community....

I owned a couple of them and shot a ton with them. I was always happy with how easy I could get the footage to look how I wanted.

Sure does. That C100 II LOG is easy to grade and looks amazing. Sad to hear this, but if they have a flat profile I think I'll be ok. Going to buy my first Nikon ever and I'm almost 45 (two weeks away..:) Unless of course the a7sIII has a flip out screen and does 4k60. Then I'll be as confused as ever. I did buy your Sony color profile - I just can't ever get the colors how I like them.

I sort of meant the entire Nikon lenses should work almost as native with the adapter - video AF being a key part of what's important.

I haven't read through this entire thread - is this true? N-log external only? Z6 or Z7 or both?

I don't read sites that honor and pay homage to that monster...that's where I draw the line. Hacking a GH2 firmware does not equal pro video. Spoken like a true camera nerd / reviewer / blogger. (I kid)

This has certainly been an interesting read. Was going to figure out a way to say I had gotten invited to the BM meeting in Manchester and show I had a 4k BM camera in hand, but I tossed both in the rubbish bin. I generally try to make jokes when people are angry. It's what I do. Right or wrong though guys - had we seen Andrew in Hawaii last week at the Canon PR launch of the R - I think we'd have all puked. Well, if he came on "not" saying how awful it was. Andrew is a guy we want telling it like it is....that's why I come here. I stopped going to the PersonalView website years ago when he basically started a "shrine" thread to Josef Stalin. Man was responsible for more deaths that Hitler...

Nikon is the only camera maker I've never, ever owned. I think I want a Z6 now after reading this thread. It's like a more robust Sony with more lens options and better build quality / better colors.