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So now I have to use a Shogun + a7rii, plus buy SSDs / Metabones adapter / multiple batteries for both / a grip probably to add some heft? Now we're at over 6k and you've built something that still cannot shoot sports and is larger to carry around than the 1dc + this Kinotehnik LCDVFE. I don't care about video AF; if I do I grab the Samsung NX1. The A7x models don't exactly AF well in video as you well know. Unless it's something as smooth as a 70d I wouldn't tout that as a feature of the a7x series. Regarding the LCDVFE - It will display underexposed areas as well, allow you to customize what's on the screen, 4 custom modes, 4 separate zoom modes, display in all blue as well as false color, allow you to control it with an external USB controller, has a proper eyepiece/loupe that blocks out all the glare, and the top folds down to double as a small monitor. I've had the a7s and this EVF is light years better. The Shogun is nice but hard to see in bright light, very large and has limited battery life. Or so I've read. What do I know - I've never owned one. No camera is perfect - I would like better high speed framerates with the 1dc - hell I'd take 4k 30 - the difference I think between us is I shoot quite a bit of kids running around playing sports and need the native long lens reach and superior AF tracking that the 1d(x) system provides. I don't see the 2.8 zooms being available yet in FE mount, nor any long glass, and shooting indoor basketball and gymnastics would drive me crazy if it didn't work properly in mixed lighting. I simply love the dynamic range of the Sony cameras and Canon would do well designing some newer sensors for their cameras. One thing that drove me batty was not having the custom modes on the a7s save the APS-C setting. If you create a custom mode 1 with FF and a #2 with APS-C on, will it remember it now? If not can you at least assign it to a button at least?

James May; one of my favorite personalities ever. Andrew - You shot the footage well and nice comprehensive review. It just lacked that "something" that even the NX1 has. I don't want to harshly call it soulless, but that's what I'm thinking. Just not my cup of tea and the HFR time limits are just too limiting. Been shooting quite a bit 1080p120 with the NX1 and it looks great and I can do it for the full 29 minutes.

Are you absolutely sure the one on the left isn't the Sony? I see lots of strange flare that looks exactly like others get using adapters. Look closely again.

Uhm, this was shot with a stabilized lens - the 16-35 F/4 IS. All handheld and purely casual shooting. IBIS is fine for short lenses, but really useless for 135mm+. Also you do know there are external EVFs that attach to the HDMI port, right? Like this one: IMO it's the best of both worlds - this EVF does way more than the Sony built in EVF; I can remove it when I don't want to use it. False colors, multiple zoom modes, underexposed/overexposed areas, crop marks, more peaking choices, etc. Weighs less than a pound and I can pull it off to shoot sports; it attaches to the shoe so no, I don't need to remove it. I would take exception to your use of the word "extreme" sports. The A7x can't shoot regular sports without any native long glass or good focusing in low / mixed lighting. I hate shooting action with an EVF. But hey, for non-moving objects it's a great camera - if you don't have a client pissed when it overheats and shuts down. Nothing is as clumsy as that. To each his own I guess.

Do you have any 1dc specific LUTs you can share, or do you mainly use ones for C100/300 C-log? I think I only noticed one specifically for the 1dc built into Resolve 12 lite. But what do I know.

Just updated my body today and shot a good deal with it tonight. Everything seems fine. Increased continuous maximum shot counts - 15fps JPEG : 70ea → 90ea - 15fps RAW : 20ea → 25eaAdded Video DIS (except 120p, VGA size video)Added AEL at M mode, ISO Auto setting - This is a big one for me...finally!Added Focus Peaking menu in button setting menuImproved AF to work during zooming (6 Supporting Lens : 16-50mm S, 50-150mm S, 16-50mm PZ, 18-55mm Ⅲ, 12-24mm, 50-200mm Ⅲ) ※ Please updated Lens together with Latest version Lens Firmware can be updated by iLauncherAdd Flash Exposure info. display on Live view Live view (when Flash is ON)Improved battery display to show both internal & external remains together when vertical grip is mountedImproved Playback speed of photoImproved sound quality of external Mic. (only for Auto MIC Control OFF)Overall fixed minor bugsOf note from my experiences tonight - I had the DIS enabled just for the hell of it - turning this ON will make 1080p120 unavailable in the video menu. Took me a minute to figure this out as I was shooting with a dumb adapter + Canon EF glass.

*sorry, other thread about this already exists. I'll post my comment there; please delete...sorry..:)

Quick question for you Andrew - I spend way longer than 5 seconds grading C-LOG - do you have a workflow you care to share? Mine is apply a LUT in Premiere Pro CC 2015 and then fiddle with the Lumetri color sliders....

Wow thanks! That's my youngest up front; Christine. Started 1st grade Wed. I realize the 1dc is a big ol' hunk of a camera but I didn't bring my EVF - so it was just the body + the 16/35 F4 - Other people were there with crop body Nikons and Canons. I only looked mildly annoying vs. having a large rig. That was shot in standard with sharpness all the way to 0, and contrast/sat at -2. I'm pretty pleased - I had the a7s for about 8 months and really enjoyed that camera as well - it just didn't shoot sports quite as well as the 1dx/c. Thanks again for the kind words.

Well gosh thanks a lot. I thought I would get ridiculed off the boards for shooting family videos with a 1dc. I'm just trying to get the best footage of my kids while they're young that I can afford. I shot the 5d3 raw for almost 2 years - I'd have stayed with it but I wanted the ability to crop with 4k plus the 12 FPS for sports. Plus of course the non-hacked reliability.

Quick link. I know this is simple home video type stuff, but to me I like the look. 4k 1dc file, built-in audio. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W9u9cu-URWd2N4LWZzY2NkcXc/view?usp=sharing 4k frame grab...

Well keep in mind in 4k it's the 1.3x APS-C crop, so that's like 21-45 FF equivalent.... I just know when I hit that record button I don't have to worry about it overheating, the 29 minute time limit, adapters erroring out, or a 2nd body to shoot stills with. Obviously far from perfect, but yesterday my kids went back to school and I shot some handheld video and no one thought I was shooting video. Just the bare camera and glass. I'll throw a 4k output up on my Google Drive here in a bit. I'm different from probably many of you on here - while I have done paid work (wedding/documentary) I am not a budding cinematographer and I earn my living managing federal employees. I shoot about 1/2 video and 1/2 stills (mostly my kids playing sports). So I'm not the guy trying to shoot cinematic; I just like nice skin tones, some background blown out a bit and colors a tad contrast-y. I have shot in C-log and think it's too much effort (for me) as the ISO is fixed - if I were shooting a scene pre-planned with fixed lighting it might be ok, but I'm generally shooting things with no lighting control.

After shooting the NX1 for a while and shooting a bunch yesterday with the 1dc, I would describe it best as high resolution 5d3 raw quality, without any quirks. The footage is just magic. I realize there are cameras out there with better options on paper, and while I love my NX1 for 120fps 1080 and casual shooting, the 1dc paired with the 16-35 F/4 IS is really an unbeatable combination. Just stunning footage. It's enough that I may not even look for anything else to shoot with for quite a while. No idea why I'm posting this. Just inspired. Shawn And I'm not even shooting C-log. Just regular standard profile with the contrast, sharpness and saturation knocked down. I don't even add sharpness in post (0 in camera) with this 16-35 @ F/8. It's just really sharp 4k.

No AF for stills though with that adapter. I'm sure he'd want to autofocus in a "pro" level body. Does the speedbooster "ultra" AF now?

When I had the a7s I paid for the timelapse app - want to hear something even sillier? The silent shutter mode is *unavailable* for this app! I ended up have to get a Sony plug for my intervalometer. Sigh.

In your opinion it's the best FF all-arounder. I'll take my 1dc that shoots 4k for over an hour without interruption (with 256GB CF cards) that is easily 100 times better sports shooter as the best all-arounder. For short takes / travel / landscape shooting it's probably the best. For shooting anything that moves I'll choose the "dinosaur" Canon.

I vote for the NX1 - largest sensor of the 3, and much easier to get wide and shallow DOF. The 1080p120 looks fantastic. Is it perfect? No, of course not, but IMO the best of these three. The RX100v4 won't shoot slowmo or 4k for very long takes, and the 96FPS of the GH4 is pretty low-res. All 3 are good choices IMO.

Only one? So the vast amount of lens selection, customer support / CPS, PDAF Autofocus speed, Professional sports shooting, tilt/shift lenses, reliability aren't significant? This is a "stills" thread, mind you. When I see rows and rows of Sony mirrorless at MLB/NFL/NBA sidelines then I'll be a true believer. Now shooting things that don't move? Sony wins easily. If you really want to see the Canon get smoked, record 4k on the a7rII for a while - it may get hot enough to truly "smoke" the Canon. Oh wait, it'll shut off first and you'll have to tell your subject / talent to "hold please" while your camera cools off. Pass.

That's very interesting actually. The 1dx/1dc shooting stills will have the framerate reduced when the battery is less than 50% (I think the 5d3 as well). Are you saying after only shooting 25 minutes your battery is almost completely gone? Yikes.

More tests done @ dvxuser. This comment stood out: "Slightly alarmingly this time it didn't give the customary overheat message. It just went dead!" http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?339161-Newsshooter-Sony-A7RII-overheats-and-shutdown-after-recording-4K-for-a-while

As others have asked, I'd be curious how quickly you can start shooting again after it shuts down. Are you in a super hot climate? The NEX-5n I had would overheat much quicker at higher outdoor temps for me. I'd also be curious if the image quality is degraded as the heat builds up.

I've gone around this 100 different ways - it appears that my easiest (albeit a workaround) solution is: For 120p set the picture profile to standard, dial it back, be sure the gamma is set to standard For 4k, set the gamma to DR (thus the picture profiles won't be in use). Since the standard gamma cannot be modified, I am to assume it will then just use the picture profile. Why Samsung can't just save everything I have no idea. So silly. Another HULK smash moment is when I realized once I start recording I cannot toggle back and forth between the EVF and the monitor. Please tell me there's a setting I'm missing. It cannot really be this way, can it?

Ok, dramatic title on purpose. Sooo...for those of you with the Samsung NX1 (using firm 1.32, latest as of 08/5/15): I am trying to basically create two custom modes. 1st is regular 4096x2160, with the DR gamma curve (-10 sharpness, -5 contrast). Shutter 1/50. 2nd is 1080p120, standard gamma with the contrast, sat, sharpness knocked back a bit. Shutter 1/125. I save this, name them, and can take the little pics of my (up to 40) custom profiles. Switch to C1 - select "load profile. Same for C2 - load 2nd profile. So now every time I switch to C1 and C2 it shows the correct custom profiles. BUT...Hulk smash. It does NOT save the gamma settings or the MOVIE SIZE settings! What in the hell am I doing wrong? It just changes back to whatever I used last. Am I really this stupid? Or is it the camera?

This. I had a strong hunch it'd overheat. My RX100 overheated, my NEX 5n, NEX-7, etc. I remember 4 years ago going to Florida with the 5n - in 93 degree temps it would only shoot about a minute of video. Lost some precious footage / shooting opportunities of my kids. Yes I'm still bitter, and yes, reliability trumps all.