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I'm baffled by your ridiculous statement/ question, Andrew. Obviously you were trying to be a smart arse, you succeeded. You also succeeded at looking like a fool. No it doesn't look like 60p but what's that got to do with anything? Acquisition for some shots could have been 60p and conformed to a 30p timeline in the edit. You do know that you can do that don't you? It's pretty common technique and help reduce rolling shutter in most cameras. Personally If I was testing the a7s and was disappointed by the rolling shutter at 24 or 30p I'd logically also test the 60p setting. FFS!!!
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An astounding Sony A7S low light test by Philip Bloom
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
HDR photography can look very natural and doesn't have to suck. It's just that people over do the effect. Sarcasm on forums almost never works. Best to not bother. Looks like the A7s will be the camera that replaces my GH3. I don't need 409,???ISO but to shoot with a camera with great dynamic range for me is far far far more important than 4k internally. -
A new (and extraordinary) Sony A7S 4K low light test
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
This camera looks fantastic for times that I want to shoot a girl walking into the sea at night with a candle :-P Unfortunately, Sony has let us down before in regard to things like Jello, moire, fast motion and every day/real world shooting environments. If this camera can do 15stops DR in video mode, It's definitely exciting, I'm just not getting any hopes up just yet...... -
Super shallow DOF like that being produced with a 5D and a f1.4 lens is a stylistic choice. The problem is that people with the 5D start shooting everything at f1.4. They give it no thought. Most films you see only use a super shallow DOF when stylistically required. Usually DOF is quite large.
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Put any of todays video shooting DLSR's in the hands of a talented professional and you will get the 'filmic' (I hate that word) look. In the hands of someone who doesnt know anything about lighting or grading you will get 'videoish' looking images. I have to disagree with Julian here, a few magic bullet film presets will not make your video look like film. Lighting is the key ingredient and working within you cameras boundaries. Then, grading plays a huge part. These days the video look is a trait of the operator/grader and lack of lighting knowledge rather than the camera. The cameras we have today are amazing. Never has the divide between the picture quality of $60,000 camera been so small compared to a $1600 one. Its just that now you have lots of people able to afford these cheaper cameras that don't know how to get the most out of them. Amateurs that need an over sized sensor like that in the 5DIII to help give them what they think is filmic (shallow depth of field) just show how little they really know about film making. Kendy's film on the previous page is a prime example. Shot on a crop sensor, at no point did I think it needed shallower DOF or that it would have benefited from a larger sensor.
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It's amazing that people scoff at a camera that costs $9K now days. My first professional camera was a Sony 637 with DVCAM back that I bought almost 20years ago. It cost me over $20,000 without lens. Look how far we have come now! To a professional, $9000 is nothing for a tool that will put a roof over your head and food on your families table. I agree that for a little extra, the AJa seems to be a much better proposition to the professional shooter.
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Form factor is very important to those that use cameras all day, day in day out. You think cameras like Alexa, Amira, Sony XDCAM and HDCAM camcorders look the way they do just so they 'look' pro? I would rather shoot a long form documentary on any of those cameras over the BMPocket. Even though they are much heavier, their 'form factor' or should I say 'professional looks' and ease of use when working solo are unrivaled by any Blackmagic or DSLR. If you have never shot with one, thats fine but saying that these cameras are big just for looks is incorrect. PS, the AJA cion looks great.
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I can see where BM are coming from (kinda) but they now have a range of cameras from the Pocket and Cinema that have many usability problems like lack of tilting screen, poor audio, no audio meters, poor software, poor functionality and the requirement to use many add ons like EVF, power and audio recorders/boxes to work properly, to the the URSA that has 3(!) articulating screens, great audio monitoring, seemingly great funtionality etc but needs at least two people to operate etc. Two extremes and none of them really cater to 95% of BM potential customer base. A 10inch flip out screen is ridiculous and this would have been a great April fools joke. Look at most cameras used on a film set and you will see that almost no operator uses a screen that big in that position. How do you go about shoulder mounting ursa, it has no viewfinder and I wouldn't want that 10inch monitor at the tip of my nose. This camera has tried to address so many issues and created so many more. Well done BM for creating something modular and trying to address the usability of the cinema range but how about creating a camera somewhere between Ursa and the cinema range?
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Panasonic GH4 4K Production Diary - Day 2 - Test Footage
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Well done Andrew, Would love to see footage of the GH4 and SB Sigma 18-35 combo. Now that you know that you exposed too far to the right, with fixed exposure would be good. -
You need to think about the situation you are in when using the YAGH. Your using the SDI outs and tethered to an external recorder/monitor. You're better off using a small rail system with shoulder pad if doing handheld so adding a battery to power both camera and external recorder is probably the best way of powering the whole rig. If you are buying the YAGH just for the XLR inputs, there are better, more portable and powered options out there.
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I think the GH4 is a contender in its current form. I do agree though that a Morph of the GH4 and the YAGH into one unit would be great however I would want Sony or Canon to carry out the morphing duties. I hate Panasonics video cameras. If it doesn't have a built in ND wheel though, it's not worth doing.
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Agreed, if you are using the GH4, YAGH and an external SDI recorder, you are more than likely using a small rig at the very least. Easy to mount an external battery to power all devises. I'd like to see a third party manufacturer release a battery grip similar to the current Photo one that has a battery compartment and just the XLRs and preamps. That way it would be perfectly viable to shoot handheld without a rig and use XLR mics. Then they could include a multi pin port and have an external break out box or even recorder for all the SDIs for when you needed them. Patent Pending 2014 Tone13 :-P
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Updated Nikon D4S looks set to disappoint pros for hybrid video
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
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Updated Nikon D4S looks set to disappoint pros for hybrid video
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Yep, you've done a great job at contributing to it. -
Different cameras do different things well. Notice the GoPro shot in that trailer?
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Content vs Tech - now lets knock this on the head!
Tone13 replied to Oliver Daniel's topic in Cameras
Content is king? I don't know. I've seen many films that have made decent money that have been very lacking in the content department. I like to use the builder building a house analogy. The end result may be an architectural masterpiece and the quality in workmanship may be exemplary but if the builder was using poor quality tools that made his life difficult and meant that the build took longer, wouldn't he want to upgrade his tools to make his life easier? I'm sure that if content really was king and our tools were unimportant, studio accountants would have started to insist that films were shot on handycams long ago. Both are important. Its a pointless argument -
Updated Nikon D4S looks set to disappoint pros for hybrid video
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I was quoting you in general. Your tone rather than the references to capitalism itself. If you don't think that Andrew should be complaining, don't read his posts. I don't feel the need to defend Andrew, but his argument is based on the fact that Nikon are touting this as a camera with video professionals in mind when this is far from the truth. He is right to have a go at Nikon for these claims and so would I. Either way, I don't care. Nikon can die as a manufacturer for all I care. My first two DSLR's where both Nikons and I loved them but they have failed to evolve and keep up. Now remember, I am talking as a stills AND video shooter which is what this site is about so take my views in that context. -
Updated Nikon D4S looks set to disappoint pros for hybrid video
Tone13 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Not sure if you understand the intentions of this site but we are video shooters here. APC-C is considered full frame in cine terms and MFT is not too much of a compromise to APS-C. I can't think if too many instances where I want my subjects eyes in focus and their nose completely out of focus. That's where full frame excels. People have been making wonderful films with S16mm for years (smaller than MFT), 2/3" (Smaller than MFT) and not too many people are complaining about the capabilities of BlackMagics cameras (smaller than MFT). If you can only make good looking images with a stills FF sized sensor, you're doing something wrong.