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Not ranged against the possibility that airliners could be hijacked and used as weapons? Please. FEMA report, dated June 1999: Emergency Response to Terrorism. Google it. US Dept of Justice training manual June 2011. Operation Vigilant Guardian: Vigilant Guardian, the semiannual NORAD exercise had been running in conjunction with Global Guardian for several days and which postulated a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union. The exercise involves all NORAD command levels.Out of a range of scenarios being run on September 11, 2001, one was a "traditional" simulated hijacking.

Haha. Not everyone does their research on youtube. Brother, there is a whole world outside of youtube. I urge you to explore it.

Never thought of this before, pretty good idea. 2 x 6300s = $2000. Takes overheating out of the equation hopefully.

When is the omd mark ii coming out? Will it be released this year?

The output of the codec is not the problem - it's the data size and file management issues that are. It's an outdated leviathan.

I doubt that AR will give it a positive review when it's handicapped to start and has a $3,500 price tag. Ergonomics and color science simply cannot overcome the crop and antiquated codec.

I can't decide which is worse, the 1.74 crop or the fact they left log, peaking and an updated codec out.

The most insulting thing they're doing is purposefully handicapping their cameras to protect overpriced, video-only segments. And most of it is just a few lines of code. That's what's most upsetting.

Here we go. Canon rep to the rescue... "Not a fanboy, don't own a Canon" and then, "Bought the xc10, was the first to give it a positive review". Somehow those two don't jive for me.

No camera is perfect. I'll live with the blue LEDs over a 1.74 crop and $3,500 price tag.

Yeah, but have you seen those Canon colors??? Hahaha Embarassing. Go away Canon.

I know, but as a user, i don't care about what's going on under the hood, I only care about the final outcome. And the 5diii's outcome is short of true 1080p,

As has been brought up numerous times, 5diii resolution is closer to that of 720p than 1080p. If you have doubts about this, please do a first-hand comparison of the a7s' 1080 image with that of Canon's "1080" image.

Are you talking photography or video? If the latter, I'm sorry, but 720p doesn't touch 4k, at least not for me. No chance the 5diii is better than an a6300.

The bolded above is the critical point. Put a speedbooster on an a6300 and you have full readout 4k FF with zebra, peaking and log. For under $1500!! I slap on a Canon 24-105 and have 24-105mm F2.8 full frame 4k!! It's crazy. Does it overheat in warm weather and extended shoots. Yes. I've been a victim of it myself more than once on paid gigs. Manage your shoot. The camera isn't meant for run-n-gun doco shoots. Get a C100 instead.

This is what you wrote: "The specs so far look great imo. I could imagine myself buying it. The Codec is the main selling point for me. Also the crop is welcomed." It's a bunch of horseshit imho.

No, it's because they're invested up to the eyeballs in Canon glass. Okay, fair enough. but just don't lie, man. Don't tell me its a competitive offering when it comes to video features. Don't try and tell me or anyone here that we don't need log and peaking at a $3500 price. Don't tell me the MJPEG codec is innovative. And certainly, don't tell me that crop is "welcomed" on piece of kit at this price point.

Here at EOSHD forums we are a highly-specialized, niche segment of the market. We speak and critique from that perspective. I really don't care what the weekend warriors, vloggers, Japanese tourists and moonlighting wedding photographers do with their resources and purchasing decisions. I'm sure Canon will sell well. That's not what we're discussing. The question to debate is whether the 5Dmiv is a competent tool for this community and whether it delivers the performance and value that we would expect from a $3200-3800 body. Canon is free to turn up their noses at any segment they wish - yes, they will still sell to the hordes - but we are free to critique their merchandise and when we feel it's not up to par in the marketplace, free to state so. Just because they sell tons of cameras doesn't necessarily mean their cameras are adequate tools for sophisticated hybrid shooters. This is the perspective I'm critiquing them from. Sony is releasing products geared to what you call a "tiny tiny tiny minority" - now why do you think such a big company is focusing on such a "tiny" segment? I guess Sony is jsut stupid, right?

But because of this segmentation, some consumers (such as myself) are not purchasing Canon bodies. Yes, I could invest into the cinema line, but I'd paying more for the equivalent I get in Sony and I lose the stills capability. The segment that Canon is choosing to ignore is the hybrid shooter out there who has a need for sophisticated video features. Sony (and Panasonic to a lesser degree) is exploiting this segment because of it. Yes, Sony products are far from perfect. But where else can you get a full frame, 4k camera with video assist features and log that can competently shoot stills? Is that too much to ask in 2016? Is that too much to ask from Canon?

Doesn't change the fact that it's poor customer service. You're right, people should expect Canon to not pander to their lobbying. Live with Canon's shoddy response or shift loyalties to another company. Canon's ecosystem is keeping customers around but the more they continue to underwhelm and the more that competing companies innovate and address peoples needs, it's inevitable they're going to see some attrition over time. But let's admit it, to not add a line of code to provide peaking and zebras is just a bitch-slap to the face.

You have obviously never used these cameras. When in capable hands they can be more than just capable tools. GH4 is far more operator-friendly than a 5Dmiii. a6300 works well when used in the right way. Overheats, yes, but the results are stunning. In all seriousness, do you work for Canon? The specs are underwhelming, the codec is a prehistoric albatross and the crop is certainly not welcomed.

$30,000 for this? I guess it goes to show you don't always get what you pay for... This guy proves it'll be at least another 10 years before stabilizers can handle the chimichanga dance.

I find it hard to believe that Canon would not black out the logo or put the camera in some kind of a skin to deter attention.

Pre-ordered. This is just the tool I need for my vlogging and home videos...

What did you go back to instead?