jonpais

Nice sound. The footage matches perfectly.

@Marco Tecno I believe Max Yuryev still owns two NX 1 cameras. Samsung was too far ahead of their time. @Cinegain I love Panasonic for the very reasons you point out, and which I already mentioned above: they are great value for the money, and they are supremely video-centric for a mirrorless camera. They seem to be listening to users as much or more than any other manufacturer. But I do believe somebody in this thread said that Panasonic was going to give Fuji a run for the money (or something to that effect), but if you've ever even handled one, you'd realize that is not the case. To be sure, they are completely different cameras with a different user base, and I would not recommend one to just anybody. As I said before, Fuji requires more setup and is not the ideal run and gun camera, but it delivers the most stunning color from any mirrorless sensor on the market. And now that we're looking at a u43 camera that will most likely cost $2,000 or so, I think people should explore their options carefully.

I didn't notice. Your model was better than mine.

Okay. Nice work. I think the focus may have been off on mine. I used pinpoint AF in manual focus mode, and hit the AF lock. I confirmed focus with peaking on his glasses. Could the AF be that messed up? In the field test I posted the other day, I used the same method for at least half the shots, and it didn't miss once. But this was low light... I mean, I was shooting at f/10 for the ISO 6400 shots. I'll go out and try again. Thanks!

Fredryk, did you apply sharpening to the image? The edited version looks sharper than the unedited one on YouTube...

Do both cameras have the same sensor and processor? How to account for the smudged detail in my video? Perhaps because in this video, the tones are much brighter, so it doesn't appear as bad? Focus bad in my video? Noise is much more apparent in the darker tones I believe. Still, you can see the softening of detail here... help me, god! If you look carefully at the green of his cap, you can see the artifacts. I think if you're shooting high key work, the noise won't be as obvious. I did learn one thing from this video, however: next time I do a low light test, I'll change the shutter speed, not the aperture! Anyhow, now you've encouraged me to go out and find a model and try again.

Lovely work, Tony. YouTube is free, no upload limits.

Sorry, but If you read my post, I never said the GH5 is shiite. I have owned four or five Panasonic cameras, and may even end up getting the GH5. My post was aimed at fanboys who keep shouting from the rooftops how great the GH5 will be, or how it will trounce the competition. Panasonics are known for their UI, ergonomics, price, reliability and video-centric features. Panasonic is not esteemed for their zippy AFC, superb dynamic range, low light sensitivity or color science. Like everyone else here, I am hoping the GH5 is all we want it to be. But I can say with (almost) absolute certainty that: the rain in Spain falls mainly in the plains. Wait, what I meant to say, is that the GH5 sensor will not have better than 12 stops dynamic range; that it will not outrun the incredibly quick AF of the Fuji; nor will it in a million years have the magnificent color science of the X Trans sensor. But, hey, I could be wrong. They elected Trump, didn't they? A waveform monitor? Sign me up.

I'm no Panasonic hater, and I don't mean to piss on your parade, but - anyone who thinks the GH5 is going to somehow render the Fuji obsolete is just fooling themselves. Not a few reviewers, comparing the G85 to the X-T2, ended up choosing the Lumix, not because of Panasonic's stupendous color science, brilliant low light sensitivity or lightning fast AF, but because they need a camera with IBIS and flippy touch screen. And not a few readers preferred to have those features as well; and let's face it, not everyone wants to shell out $3,000 for a new camera, battery grip and lens. The Fuji will still have superior dynamic range, vastly better low light performance, faster and more accurate AFC and exquisite color, as well as cleaner 4K than the GH5. Maybe you've forgotten, but the BMPCC didn't have a flippy screen or IBIS either: serious filmmakers got it for the images it could produce. Sure, the Fuji is primarily a stills camera, but so is the Canon 5D; and I've seen more breathtakingly beautiful videos on the Web made with the Canon than with any other camera. And when Voigtlander produced fully manual primes without OIS, I didn't hear anyone shout 'fail!' and many filmmakers still use them proudly. Their build and imaging quality is unsurpassed, as is the Fuji's. So go ahead - enjoy your 400 megabits or bytes, your 4K 60p, whatever, but please don't go carrying on like Panasonic is better than Sony, Olympus, Fuji or whoever.

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I just finished shooting the G85 from ISO 200 to ISO 6400, will be going home soon to check results. I shot two clips at each ISO setting: one at default NR, and one at -5. It is not a scientific test, for one thing, because I adjusted exposure with the aperture rather than doing it in a studio and adjusting light levels. Shooting with the Nocticron, apertures ranged from around f/1.8 at ISO 200 to around f/10 at ISO 6400. The lens starts to reach its sweet spot at f/2-f/4, then begins to fall off a cliff after f/5.6, and by f/8 diffraction is already destroying resolution. I'll try to upload the test in a few hours.

Have no fear - I'm sure Tim Cook feels we should be able to edit on iMovie??. I just found this over at MacRumors. At first, I thought it was some sort of sick joke... Apparently, OWC will be offering an attachment that fits onto the bottom of your svelte 2016 MBPr that adds both 4TB of storage and the holes we so desperately need. And get this: when attached, your laptop will be no thicker than the 2012 MBPr. These are great times for solutions to problems that should never have existed. Read the article here.

Why does it always have to be either or? Even if I end up getting the GH5, which, as it gets closer to announcement time, it looks like I very well may, you will never pry the X-T2 from my cold dead hands. Anybody who's ever used one loves theirs: and I think even testers online who opted to go with Panasonic or Sony instead, returning their Fuji, did so with a great deal of remorse. Obviously, it's a stills camera first. But if you have the time to set up shots, or don't mind carrying around a monopod, the image can be amazing. Anyhow, time to be out and about. People are expecting to see some high ISO footage from the GH5's little brother.

Hi Matt, You've probably found it by now, but you can customize your Fn buttons in the Custom menu. I assign focus assist to fn1, since it's the one I use most often. I also find the clicky buttons on the wheel a bit awkward to use, maybe they could be a touch thicker/higher? Because the viewfinder is so great compared to what I've used before, I find I'm using it all the time. Now I just have to learn to use my nose to tap focus on the LCD while I'm composing in the EVF.

Nice work!

I've shot at ISO 6400 with the Fuji, and faces looked fine, but large dark walls in the background could be distracting. So a lot depends on the subject matter, what you personally find acceptable... and some noise isn't even going to be noticeable if your story is interesting anyway. If anyone here has shot with the GH4, I would never shoot beyond ISO 800, if that gives any indication of my tolerance for artifacts. Actually, what I may be objecting to is not the noise itself, but the NR softening detail. Anyhow, off to shoot some more! ? @Inazuma If I have time, I'll try another grade without the oompa. I'm giving mine away, but first you'd have to come to Vietnam. ? I listed mine on Craigslist for $615.00 USD, but I may have to go even lower now. Not that anyone in Vietnam would even ever consider shooting micro four thirds.

I only shot a few clips at ISO 800, those are just my first impressions. I will try to go out and shoot at some high ISOs today, with default NR and at NR -5. I haven't used Neat Video in a long time because my computer takes forever to process with that plug in.

I couldn't decide either - so I got both!

Thanks.

If you watched the video, and I'm sure you did , the shot of the young boy having his portrait drawn and the woman stylist were both shot at ISO 800 to the best of my recollection (I never write this stuff down). And you can already see the image starting to break apart (at least I can). So I would personally never shoot beyond ISO 800. I plan to do some testing at ISO 800 and ISO 1600 with NR dialed all the way down to see if that helps. I believe Jase is shooting the G85/80 or GX85/80 with NR at -5, so perhaps he can chime in. But this is absolutely not a low light camera. I strongly recommend to anyone who shoots a lot of low light to either plan on setting enough aside for fast lenses or Metabones or looking into the X-T2 or similar ASP-C camera. Actually, there is no camera similar to the X-T2: it has the most beautiful sensor ever to grace a mirrorless body. If anyone's curious, all the shots were made with the Leica Nocticron and a Hoya ND8 filter, at around f/2.8 or wider.

Wow. Love Belgium. Ghent, Antwerp, Bruges: all super great. When I traveled there in the 80s, I paid $5.00 USD/night for a hostel, and guests could stay free if they were willing to do some cleaning around the place. As has been pointed out earlier, there is some aggressive, detail-destroying noise reduction going on at ISO 800. I would recommend avoiding shooting at higher ISOs unless you dial down NR all the way and use Neat Video or some other software in post.

Thanks, Dan. At least you didn't have to fly to Malaysia to pick one up. Can't find them in Vietnam.

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The takeaway for me from these tests is that the camera operator is what makes all the difference in the world, not the camera. The Canon 5D performs the worst among the cameras tested, but has given us some of the most amazing cinematic images I've ever seen on the Web. The camera with the greatest dynamic range, the Ursa Mini 4.6K, has problems of its own aplenty, which hasn't prevented talented filmmakers from exploiting its strengths. You can post charts here twenty times a day if you like, showing how inferior the G85 is: but since you obviously have no intention whatsoever of ever purchasing this camera, or even contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way, I wonder what your true motivation is, and why you jump for joy like a five year-old each time you discover more damaging evidence to prove that the G85 is piece of trash. If you can't make pleasing images and tell engaging stories with the G85, it is certainly not the fault of the camera. If low light performance and dynamic range are that important to you, I'd recommend looking into an APS-C sensor camera. Finally, somebody who actually owns and has used the camera, and who could probably tell more engaging stories with an iPhone than the trolls in this thread could with a digital Bolex.

Noise from the IBIS is a real issue. Perhaps a firmware update can help reduce the noise, perhaps not. At the moment, the best solution is to record sound off camera.