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Sounds like they're in full on troll / click bait / Canon shrill mode. Well as one of the youtube commentators said.... "They have already build a 500$ mirrorless full frame camera. And then they overpriced it to 1300$, because that's what they do."

The Convergent Design recorder is the most fully featured option to maximize the FS700, but even a cheap cheapie original Atomos Shogun will still get you 4K 10bit 422 ProRess out of the FS700 You already have an external monitor with the Atomos Shogun And you don't need an external power supply unit. You can use normal NP-F batteries You could also say neither does your GH3 have that

Or just cut off the lens on the Panasonic DVX200 (replacing the lens with a MFT mount) and sell it at a suitably discounted price, and I'm sure such a camera would find quite a bit of popularity as well. Seeing as how no C100 has ever done 10bit at any resolution, I bet that the C100mk3 will not do 10bit 4K!! Expect 8bit 420 4K 30fps from the C100mk3 (perhaps with some other weird crippling/limitation as well, like no DPAF with 4K, or only 4K with a big crop, etc)

Not at all true! Just add on the Atomos Shogun, which is always going to be cheaper to buy secondhand than the FS700 itself is. What is complicated about it? Nothing. It needs no more add ons than an a7S / a6500 / GH5 / etc would need at a minimum (i.e. just the normal stuff all cameras needs: media, lenses, and power).

Z Cam E2 already does this.

Sub $1.5K if you're lucky!

If you know about the Canon C300 mk1? It is the same vintage. (but the FS700 has aged a bit better, thanks to 4K) The FS700 was perhaps the 2nd most popular low/mid range videocamera after the C300 mk1, and the FS700 was the go to camera for any slow motion back then on a low budget. No matter what camera you're buying on the planet, it is kinda a bad idea to only be buying *ONE LENS* for it!! :-o :-o Secondhand original Atomos Shogun would be the cheapest way to go. Or wait for a mythical "Atomos Samurai V" to be announced! (which is kinda what I'm doing.... haha)

Heh, we're having an identical discussion (of why is there nothing else other than the FS5 in this price bracket? FS5 is getting kinda old) over here:

I fully agree Yeah, it is strange there is not much action priced around the FS5 or cheaper. The C100 update is also long missing, which would be around ish the price of a FS5 I bet.

That is my normal set up for my YouTube channel. Except with a G6 and not a GH5 ?

Because I'm nuts? Same reason you're buying these! ?

I've had my finger hovering over the buy button so many times with a FS700 over the last 18 months or so. Although, now that I'm buying a Cedar DNS2 next week, I'll be broke for a long time after thus no more big purchases for a while. Hopefully! I'll give it a 50/50 chance as to if a Samurai V happens or if an AtomX SDI module happens. I'm hoping for a Samurai V, so we can use the Timecode AtomX module with it. Would fix up the biggest thing I don't like about the FS700, the lack of timecode input

Don't need to worry about the FS700 being superseded! ? As it has already happened.....

What does a used GH5 go for, a couple hundred dollars more than that combo? Seems like a no brainer for the GH5 Otherwise put that $400 to a G85 As 8bit vlog isn't exactly appealing, and battery life is already pretty good in all Panasonics anyway, etc

Panasonic missed the boat with the EVA1 by not launching it with a MFT option. And Panasonic has never updated the AF100 series. Thus I reckon the odds of a MFT camcorder in general (let alone one with a S35 sensor) from Panasonic this year is very very very low chances.

I'd argue the Sony FS700 secondhand for a similar price is pretty good at matching (or exceeding!) it for specs / ease of use. Even though a GH6 is probably going to happen sometime later in the year, perhaps, the GH5 is still even 2019 a class leading camera and one of the best you can buy.

THIS THIS Your AF performance relies very heavily not just on the camera body used, but also depends a lot on the particular lenses used.

But I do agree with this in general. If the OP already has lots of MFT lenses for his GH3 (I'd hope he does!), then getting a GH5 is a no brainer! a7 mk3 and Nikon Z6 are identical in price on B&H right now Also the Sonys, even the 3rd generation bodies, are still overheating. I've run into this issue on set beforehand with the newer Sonys as well.

The Atomos Ninja V is the cheapest 4K recorder on the market. And the Z6 and GH5 are technically the same price (heh, the Z6 is even a buck cheaper) when you look at their full prices for each: $1,997.99 vs $1,996.95 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1283257-REG/panasonic_dmc_gh5_mirrorless_micro_four.html?sts=pi https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1431706-REG/nikon_1595_z6_mirrorless_digital_camera.html?sts=pi The big difference though is that the GH5 is quite often on sale with a discount, for instance right now (expiring at midnight however!) being offered with a $400 saving by B&H IBIS however is much better in the Nikon Z cameras than in Sonys. Plus Nikon have a massive massive range of Nikon F mount lenses which work great with Nikon's adapter.

Even the much cheaper G85 would still be a big leap forward if you're coming from the GH3 The Z6 costs about the same as the GH5. (although yeah, now the GH5 has been out a while we've seeing some great deals on it below its launch price) And the Atomos Ninja V is very cheap, you don't have to buy it right away either. Wait six months and I'm sure you'd see a few Ninja V deals popping up on eBay as well. @stefanocps it is worthwhile thinking carefully on this point of "good enough". After all you've been living with a GH3 for a long time! Thus surely you don't need need autofocus as much as you think, otherwise you wouldn't have used a GH3 for so long. Even though the GH5's (or X-T3 etc) autofocus is not quite as DPAF levels, they're still much much better than anything I own! Or for instance your GH3.

Outside from the 10bit output (which doesn't really make sense to buy a GH4 for in 2019, as once you add in the cost of an external recorder, you could have just purchased a GH5 instead), the 96fps slow motion (but at a big hit to image quality! I know some GH4 owners never went over 60fps because of this, which is the same the G85 can do), and being able to use the YAGH accessory (ugh! Which nobody liked), what specific advanced features/benefits does the GH4 have over the G85? Panasonics are fine. It is Sony you have to watch out for! (even their third generation full frame cameras still will overheat!! I've experienced this myself on set)

This! Unfortunately the FS7 has in many ways "replaced" the F5 (and even F55 at times), when in reality the FS7 is quite the step down. Thus there is a big hole left between the FS7mk2 and VENICE in Sony's line up.

Neither are mirrorless cameras btw. And I reckon a few secondhand Panasonic GH4 cameras would suit you just great. G7 or G85 are also great picks, but I think need a little trickery sometimes to get unlimited record lengths

The Nikon Z 14-30mm f4 S is coming very very soon. https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-z-14-30mm-f4-s-review/ You can already pre order it. https://www.nikonrumors.co/tag/z-nikkor-14-30mm-f-4-s-lens/