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If you're working solely by yourself (never on other people's productions) say as a wedding videographer or small in house corporate productions, then yes getting say an EVA1 + S1H + S5mk2 (for when AF is critically important, say when shooting solo on a gimbal unpredictable content) would be a nice little package to have! Of course it depends a lot on where you live, and what kind of markets you work in (narrative vs doco vs sports vs commercials vs whatever can all have very different preferences. Likewise low vs mid vs high budget tiers can have different preferences too. Ditto what's popular in Berlin vs Vancouver could be quite different) but generally speaking if you're looking to work quite a bit as a Cam Op / Second Shooter / etc it would be rather foolish to pick anything other than a Sony. With a very strong preference for going with the Sony FX6, maaaybe the FX9 depending on your market niche and/or budget. (some people might even be targeting the Sony BURANO, such as this guy who just posted about it this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_psSssbGk&ab_channel=CrankyCameraman As that what makes sense for his market and the work he does) But if on a very tight budget, and the FX6 isn't viable, then go with either the FS7 or FX3/FX30 instead. If for perhaps you hate Sony and your joy is more important the $$$ in the bank account, or maybe you are targeting a niche where Sony isn't so big & relevant (say narrative for instance) then you can think about other non-Sony alternatives. For instance if you're trying to break into the narrative world and make it as a DoP (or you've already "made it" as a DoP, and you can work on productions where you can use whatever cameras you wish and are suitable for the shoot. As they've got the rental budget for it. But you want a smaller cheaper "personal camera" for yourself, so you can bring it along to passion projects you're shooting that you wish to help out) then I'd be seriously considering non-Sony cameras such as the Blackmagics (any of them) or the RED Komodo (or older cheaper models such as the RED Raven or RED Epic / Scarlet) or an older ARRI Alexa Classic (or perhaps the AMIRA). Maaaaybe the BS1H would get a consideration.

I personally have never shot with the EVA1. Have worked on a TV Series where the EVA1 was fairly regularly used as an extra camera. (their day to day usage was shooting with 3x Panasonic Varicam LT Every. Single. Day. That was a joy for the Sound Dept!) Any time a fourth (or even 5th!) camera was needed then it probably was going to be an EVA1 ( think sometimes they could get their hands on 4th Varicam? But wasn't that often during the reason) Also worked on a handful of various no/low/mid budget productions (shorts/commercials/etc) where an EVA1 was used as there was one DoP around here who used to own an EVA1 who I'd semi regularly work with. (he sold it off a couple of years ago? Uses a RED Komodo now. These days I honestly could not think of even one DoPs who has an EVA1 here locally) So yeah, worked in productions using the EVA1 a fair bit, but in the grand scheme of things it was quite rare. I think the Panasonic EVA1 was sadly dead on arrival when launched. As it came out waaaay after the FS7 was already on the scene, thus even though the EVA1 was arguably "better" than the FS7, it was just way way too late. The FS7 was already entrenched in place. Heck, Canon had even already launched the C300mk2! Thus the EVA1 was put squarely in at least 3rd Place (arguably even 4th Place, or worse. As the Blackmagic URSA series attacked hard the no / low budget section of the market which was non-FS7). Here is the niches where the EVA1 still makes sense in 2024 (but only if you're buying it bargain secondhand prices. Would be crazy to buy it brand new!!): 1) you don't need to ever worry about working with productions that use Sony shooters (say for instance if you do everything about a production in house yourself, and not working as a freelance Cameraman For Hire). Has not having a camera compatible with the #1 brand puts you at a big disadvantage (or heck, at least have a camera in the top five! Sony/ARRI/Canon/Blackmagic/RED) 2) you work in a weird little niche where somehow strangely Panasonic has clawed itself into the top three market share or better. As I'm sure there are little pockets of the filmmaking communities where you might find a large handful of your buddies are all shooting Panasonic. (for instance here in NZ if I was not a PSM but a Cam Op / DoP who was tight with Producers / Directors who work all the time 24/7 with SPP, then maaaybe I'd consider picking up a Panasonic EVA1 as maaaaybe it could pick up a few rental dollars here or there going onto those productions which I'd already be working on) 3) you stubbornly ignore all those factors above (or you're lucky and they don't apply to you) and you really want the power of a FS7/XDCA (or F5) but in the smaller form factor of a FS5 body (and/or you don't like "the Sony look") but you can't afford a FX6. (and for whatever reason, you're a Canon hater, so the C300mk2 is ruled out) Then the Panasonic EVA1 is perfect for you! 4) or you already own a Panasonic Varicam, and you need a smaller and/or cheaper B Cam. But you don't want the rigging hassle of a S1H/BS1H. Then the Panasonic EVA1 is perfect for you! 5) you're a S1H/S1/S5/etc shooter and you really really really want built in NDs (or SDI out, or BNC TC, or whatever... but don't want the BS1H). Then the Panasonic EVA1 is perfect for you! 6) you're a contrarian with a conspiracy minded bent. And it was either this or a ZCam/Kinefinity, but you didn't want the CCP spying on you. Then the Panasonic EVA1 is perfect for you! 7) you get offered the EVA1 for free. Then the Panasonic EVA1 is perfect for you! That I think is a fairly extensive list of who I think the Panasonic EVA1 is suitable for someone to get in 2024. Might have missed out one or two niche exceptions, but I think it's quite comprehensive. I hope this year Panasonic brings out an EVA2 with a L Mount (or a MFT mount.... ha!!). But if it happens, the EVA2 will fall victim to the same crime the EVA1 was guilty of: just was simply far too late to market. The FX6 has been out for yonks now (heck, I bet within the next couple of years we'll see a mk2 for either the FX6 and/or the FX9. That's just how long it's been!). And the Canon C70 and Blackmagic Pocket 6K cameras have been out for a good chunk of time too, together with the RED Komodo they've swept up nearly every corner of the low/mid budget market. Only a few little corners left to exist in such as where ZCam and Kinefinity are, or Panasonic's own BS1H. There is very little space left there for EVA2 to take market share, it would have to fight hard for every inch of it. I think Panasonic's best move is not an EVA2, but to relaunch the BS1H (the "BS2H"?) with built in NDs, the AF of the S5mk2, and with the problematic delays of the SDI out fixed that was in the original BS1H. If they can do that at the same price point as the original BS1H was launched at, then they might see some traction they can then build upon. As such a BS2H could be "the poor man's ARRI 35" who can't afford anything close to ARRI prices, but wants: a box format camera, with good color science, 4K, with built in NDs, SDI, TC, and all at an affordable price. (as strangely enough... think about, what camera meets this?? None aside from the ARRI 35!! And Mini LF. Plus perhaps the OG ALEXA Mini if you ignore the fact it's technically upscaled 4K, not true 4K. On a low budget the closest thing otherwise is using a stripped down FX6 body, or similar. Such as C70) But the BS1H is only a little over two years old, so I can't see a BS2H coming out this year so soon. More likely (at least... we hope?? Be terrible if they don't even do at least this) is that the S1H will be updated with the PDAF of the S5mk2, but otherwise no other major changes of note, just general smaller improvements here or there from the original S1H. Then another year or two after that we get the box camera version announced of the S1H mk2. But by that point, it will be too late? As Blackmagic/RED/ZCam/Kinefinity/Canon/etc won't keep standing still in the years to come.

That would be any future "Panasonic BGH2" (with a GH7 sensor hopefully).

Still much better than any other non-Auckland place in New Zealand!

hey there, Adelaide is "nearby" and is the largest city in the state ( and the fifth-most populous city in Australia). Merely a couple of thousand kilometers away (closer to Perth than we in Auckland are to Sydney!)

Yeah the premium buyers are not price sensitive enough to care, they'll just get something in between a RED Komodo for $6K at the very low end through to a secondhand ARRI ALEXA Mini for $20K at the other end (or even nicer, such as an ARRI 35). btw, isn't it crazy how cheap the Mini is these days?? While the low end budget buyers are just going to go instead with ZCam E2 series / Panasonic BGH1 / BS1H / BMD Micro Camera / RED Komodo, for similar or much much less cost. (or low end budget buyers might even just simply say "screw it", and not care about the box format, and will get instead a P4K / S5mk2 / FX30 / etc) Documentary shoots are rarely shooting with a "box style camera". Unless it's a high end doco, then they're using an ARRI Mini (or ARRI 35 now). Or if they're needing high frame rates, so they use a RED. But even that's less common, now that Sony etc (heck, even Canon!) can do good slow motion on their cameras.

Stumbled across this feature film which came out quite recently that was shot entirely with the Panasonic G7! Tease trailer: Trailer:

I asked him about pricing and he said: https://www.reddit.com/r/NexusCameras/comments/194mnf3/comment/ki389b9/?context=3

Komodo-X is a $10K camera just for the barebones brain. (although year the OG Komodo is a few thousand cheaper). The RED Tax still exists, it's just not as hefty as it used to be.

It's a tricky life freelancing, where just one or two little things going the other way can make or break a year.

Yeah you can easily enough get a RED Komodo for $5K secondhand (even less by the time the Nexus G1 finally is available!). But personally I'd rather not pay the RED tax and instead have a Panasonic BS1H or ZCam E2-S6 for half the cost.

Any guesses whatsoever at pricing for the Nexus G1?? It surely wouldn't be at Komodo pricing levels!! 😮 But I bet a Z CAM E2-S6 would be a better buy (only US$2.2K)

Hasn't even been announced yet. But probably the same price as the Z6 and Z6 II was before it? Or maybe up to a couple of hundred dollars higher. (damn inflation...)

ohhhh... I'd never even considered this! But I've got tonnes of MFT lenses, and a Fujfilm X-A3 I use for casual photography.

That's from an old sensor too! And "only" FHD. Recording FHD 8bit 420 from a GH6 today (maybe you've got severe budget issues when it comes to storage space and/or a potato as an editing PC) would look waaay better than the GH2 does.

Even I have nightmares about that happening! Under certain circumstances then Fortran is faster than C

That's dumb... that's the identical article to which @kye linked to. Don't understand why ymcinema changed the URL

I still utterly irrationally want a Panasonic Varicam LT. (they can be got for maybe US$3.5K on eBay) And to buy half a dozen Panasonic BS1H box cameras to make 360VR with! They've had a huge price drop, down to US$2.5K brand new (same price as a new S1H! Which itself has got a big price drop): https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1664826-REG/panasonic_dc_bs1h_lumix_bs1h_full_frame_box_style.html

Love it! That's my jam. lol! Don't blame PTSD from then as reasons not to use Fortran today 😛 Wow, our posts are bringing out all the older times from the woodworks! 😮 Punch cards... I thank my lucky stars I never had to do that. (although I did have one Physics lab, stretched out over multiple 3hr sessions, where I was literally flipping switches so as to enter in my program I'd written in binary to then run it on their hardware) Anyway, Fortran of today in 2024 is very different to the Fortran you'd have used back then! 🙂 Fortran is even a Top 20 language, in terms of popularity in the world (currently at this moment it's ranked #12): https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ That was basically me too! My family didn't own a computer, or even a TV.

Yeah it is rough for us living down under, no matter if in Oz or NZ. The taxes and extreme shipping costs.

On the topic of 2.5K, I saw a crazy cheap BMCC 2.5K MFT for just US$300 on eBay today but the shipping costs are obscene 😞

That is exactly what I did as well, except mine was a full size cage from Camtree. I never had to worry about the HDMI port ever! It's confirmed that Jeromy Young is from the West Island of New Zealand.

I wish I used to code in COBOL! (or heck, Fortran) But sadly it's something far worse... FoxPro (both FoxPro 2.6 and Visual FoxPro). Well, FoxPro is definitely a much "better" language than COBOL. But I'd say its market value in terms of employability is drastically lower.

I've been seeing a surprising number (i.e. more than zero, which is the usual amount) of Aaton Cantar X3 (or Cantar Mini ) recorders being listed in recent months, the temptation is terribly real and hard. (it helps though not having the $$$$ for them! ha) It shouldn't be you'd presume Doesn't it have an aggressive crop too? My Sumsung NX300 has that as well! 😄 But I haven't shot anything 3D with it 😞

That's surprisingly cheap! Let us know how it sounds please, am curious if it is very noisy.