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Most Sony F35 owners would say it matters.

Better! You can see the various gaming tests done. Plus of course the PC is more versatile. Agreed! Spend less then. You can get a cheap exlease 21" monitor for like fifty bucks or so I bet.

Yes, I expect we'll see 20+ Z mount lenses from Third Parties within a year. Easily, for sure! For instance just Samyang/Rokinon will make all their lenses they make for MFT/E mount already in Z mount, and it will happen very very quickly, within months, maybe even weeks of Z mount launching. Very small companies like Veydra might take a bit longer, but probably still within a year. Other more mid size third party companies like SLR Magic will probably take some length or time between those two extremes to roll out their Z mount updates, but I'm sure we'll see some of them within the year. These are just a few of many companies out there which have an existing library of lenses for Mirrorless cameras (or even F mount already) that they will surely in a timely manner convert to offering in Z mount This isn't even counting any which might be made to specifically take advantage of specific features of the Z mount (such as their ability to offer faster lenses than normal?). It is due to high demand (but low supply). Which was my point.

I am a little skeptical as to if we'll see twenty fully AF/AE lenses for Z mount from third parties in the first year, but I have no doubt that overall in total for all third party lenses we will see 20 plus lenses for the new Z mount within a year from Nikon's new mirrorless camera shipping. For sure. Which shows the level of strength among Nikon users for a f1.2 lens, or even a f0.95 lens?!

Dell Optiplex is a popular choice for offlease starter PC to use as your base, you can see lots of people have done basically this. Purchased an Optiplex then stuck a better GPU in it, plus maybe some extra RAM. Some people might recommend upgrading the PSU as well (but then again he is putting a 1070 in there, even the YT Host himself says he'd recommend putting a 1050 Ti in there instead): OzTalksHW is a channel I quite like, I've watched a lot of his videos as he has quite a few of these low budget builds:

Getting cheap ex-lease desktop PCs then putting in there extra RAM and a budget GPU card is a very common path many low budget gamers do for making their rig on the ultra cheap, I'm sure the same can apply to editors as well who want to save their pennies. But if you want something better you will need to aim higher. This is an extreme example of a cheap offlease PC with a GT1030 (not that I'd recommend it... get yourself at least a GTX1050 Ti instead? As you can get a low profile version of a GTX1050 Ti for US$180ish):

Just got a phone call about a self funded short film I'll be doing sound for a few days next month, this is a clue on the budget I gleaned: NZ$100/day for each person (that is only around US$67/day, so in other words... nearly nothing) in the cast and crew. (which is the same for me, but getting another $200/day for my gear rental) However they're getting a set of Cooke anamorphic primes for free from a production house and an Arri Alexa Mini for free from another different rental house. For many on forums who live outside this industry this might seem surprising, however to me this doesn't seem strange at all to get calls like this. (although the whole we're "paying everyone the same X amount" does annoy me, as I don't feel that say a 1st AC / Gaffer / SFX MUA / Sound Mixer / etc should get the same amount per day as perhaps a LX Assist / Runner / 3rd AC / PA / etc might get. Not even on "no budget" shoots. *Especially* if someone such as the Gaffer or Sound Mixer is bringing along tens of thousands of dollars worth of their own gear, or like the SFX MUA HoD are using up hundreds of dollars worth of products as expendables per day. And very often I've been on such shoots which "everyone is paid the same", yet you discover that is not the case and it just is the spin the director or producer uses) But I'm sure these people did back in the day at film school do many "no budget" shoot with a Canon T3i or whatever, it can take a few years or working up and building your network to get people you can call upon to borrow their Cooke anamorphics or Arri from people who you know. (and who'd be ok with that, because they know you have and/or will be giving them a lot of work in the future from full rate commercial productions)

If Nikon is smart enough to realize that mirrorless is the future (which I'm sure they realize, they and us probably just disagree on the timing of it) then they will surely try to make their mirrorless as good as they can because they will not mind if a person buys their "mirrorless D850" or an actual D850, as a sale is a sale! In fact they might even prefer a buyer gets their "mirrorless D850" as that will help lock the buyer into the future Nikon ecosystem, while someone who stays with their DSLRs still has a risk that when s/he makes the leap to mirrorless from their D850 that they might not get a Nikon mirrorless but instead will leak to some other competing system.

Agreed, the D850 is so developed that simply a "mirrorless D850" would have a shot at success. While a "mirrorless 5Dmk4" would have no chance.

If you're filming though then once you crop down to 2.39 aspect ratio then it will look just fine

Of course it is likely to be unanswered before the camera is even released!

I very much named it tongue in cheek! And yes, it will be nice to not see black bars on for instance old 4:3 footage

It is no different from if someone tells me they went on a weekend camping trip and it "cost them nothing", then someone complains "but you drove to the bush in a $40K car, then used a $1K tent, and used $50 of petrol, and and and etc..." It is nitpicking, and I feel is an attitude which is also disconnected from reality. It is good for people to realize that you can make "low budget" films with nice gear (such as REDs or whatever), but it takes networking and effort/compromise. And you can't do it by going at it alone, and sticking to online forums. Although of course there are also people in the film industry who take this too far, and basically exploit people and their good will. But there is a happy middle ground there in which both parties feel they benefit from the experience in a production. That is because making a feature film is very very expensive. It is no more unreasonable than calling a $200,000 house a "low budget house", or calling a $10,000 house a "no budget house"!

Well they lack the features or recording capability of the BMD VA, so an odd comparison?

Was wondering how "famous" she might be, so showed her to my GF to see if she recognized her. Yup! In fact my GF even went to the same Uni as her at the same time back in China. Small world. I expect their new generation of mirrorless they'll try to be marketing to all people, just like they believe their DSLRs are for everyone as well. So we'll see adverts aimed at fashion photographers, for vloggers, for soccer mums, for street shooters, for landscape artists, etc etc

I feel you're 150% missing the point, as it wouldn't even matter if the C100 had pre amps "twice as good" as my sound recorder, as it simply is an impractical workflow to not use an audio recorder/mixer and instead record straight to camera for scripted narrative filmmaking of a certain level of complexity. To do so would undoubtedly lead to worse audio.

I'm sure they must have at least made prototypes. Would be pretty darn crazy if they'd announced a camera without at least having one rough prototype first.

You can't with the DR10L. Unless you mean you don't have the DR10L, but the DR10CS?! And being able to monitor your audio does impact your quality, as if you can't then your audio will suffer.

If that is the plan then he could achieve the same result with an AF100/FS100 for a fraction of the cost!

Yes! For the very big reason of: Monitoring!

This would have been true a couple of years ago or more, it made more sense to get a C100. But as "4K" gets wanted more and more, even on low end jobs, then there is a possibility the C100 might hold you back more in getting work than say even having a Panasonic GH4 would help you. Might wash out and be a coin flip as to which is better. Well it never got sold, for basically the same kind of reasons BMD had, the benefits of having global/rolling as an option wasn't worth it for the trade offs.

Watch the PSA I posted at the start of the thread

I found it interesting that Geoff Boyle managed to get not one but two Kinefinity cameras for his shoot out comparison! Yeah I've been trying to explain to a friend that although the UMP is very very nice, he'd get more work if he owned the very popular FS7 or a F5, as that would make more financial sense in that you'd get hired more.

Indeed, I'm constantly seeing such a big gap between what is said on forums vs reality. But even then I know my own "reality" I see is only a teeny tiny slice of the whole picture, but now and then I day play on even bigger shows and I get a peek behind the curtain at the next stages up from me. You'd hope so! But not sure.... I have however messaged personally the founder of Kinefinity and encouraged him he should chat more to JB and others like him to see what they want/need :-)

Agreed, Kinefinity needs to first scale up to be able to provide ONE or two rental bodies at a time, there is too few places that do that. Before giving six or eight bodies at once. Yeah C200 is in a weird space that it can appeal to the low end but can't go up from there even though it was raw because it has way way too many other missing gaps I hold my fingers crossed for an URSA Micro Pro!