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Kind wish their audio would allow 4 channels... stereo through the 3.5mm jack + 2x XLR inputs over the hotshoe. Would be handy indeed for sit down interviews with multiple people, and other scenarios.

HA! Panasonic cameras have never had overheating issues :-D You don't spell Panasonic's name "S-o-n-y" or "C-a-n-o-n"! ;-)

My money is on the GH5 being better than a Canon 5D mk3 in lowlight. People for ages loved the lowlight capabilities of the Canon 5D mk3 and raved on about how important a so called "full frame" sensor is for that "lowlight ability". And the Panasonic GH5 will exceed that. It is the natural result of the forward march of technological progress. Hopefully time will tell that Panasonic & Olympus made the smart move, with technology catching up to "full frame" level performance then everyone who wants a compact or lightweight system will go with Micro Four Thirds. While those who want the "ultimate" will go with digital medium format instead such as Pentax 645Z or the new FujiFilm mirrorless medium format camera. (Especially as the relentless forward march of progress while within a few short years make digital medium format cheaper and cheaper, until even semi serious hobbyists will find it affordable at a stretch)

I think there is a much much *MUCH* bigger gap between the GH5 and the Varicam LT!!! :-o :-( As for the gap underneath the GH5..... don't worry at all! :-) Because by sometime around mid year (or a tiny bit later) we'll see a Panasonic G90 (or GX90? Or GX9?) which will take up a position above the G80 but below the GH5. (my emphasis) Rather ironically so as the 80D is very much *NOT* the so called "full frame"! ha The Kinefinity Terra 5K (or 6K) is very much like a BMPCC v2.0 (well... I regard the BMMCC as the BMPCC v2.0! But let's call for the sale of this the BMMCC the v1.2, and the Terra the v2.0!) Many people would like to see global shutter, slow motion, 4K, and APS-C in a future BMPCC update. Guess what... the Kinefinity Terra 5K has all of the that!! ;-) And with the battery grip handle it is similar size to a Canon 5D! Don't think at the moment you could make a BMPCC much smaller if you've got a APS-C sensor and all that power in it. I remember that too, but I bought a BMPCC anyway! Though kinda regret not buying two.... I suspect once the GH5 gets all its firmware updates then you'll see from Panasonic basically a ProRes shooting camera, as that is more or less what the GH5 would be. But the GX850 is limited to only 5 minutes in UHD!!!! wtf :-/ :-( Hope Panasonic is not playing Canon games with us.... and it is really to do with overheating in such a small body. I really really really hope crop marks for shooting are implemented!! With a bunch of options (such as setting their transparency level, or cropping lines for taking in the top, middle, or bottom) As 1:85, 2:35, or 2:40 marks is one of the most common needs we have while shooting "cinematic" content which too many DSLRs/mirrorless can't do.

A secondhand Panasonic GH4 would have to drop so far it is within a couple of a hundred bucks of a Panasonic G7 secondhand price.

Is there anything else out there which would force BMD to push its price down??? Nope. Who knows, BMD could always do something out of the blue like the 50% drop they did with the BMPCC a while ago (which very sadly they never again repeated.... well, aside from a very short moment here and there). Likely until new cameras come out to give some downwards pressure the prices won't drop much? The next ground breaking cameras in terms of low value / performance ratio, would be: Panasonic GH5, whatever BMD (& Kinefinity) announce at NAB 2017, Sony a7S/a7R mk3 (sometime 2017....), Sony FS5 mk2 (????), something randomly "out of the blue" (a new Kickstarter project?? JVC doing an update to the LS300??? Who knows what!!). I doubt any of those announcements in 2017 will make BMD feel like they "must" drop the price of the URSA Mini, the only one of those which might make an impact in dropping BMD's prices would be...... an announcement from BMD themselves! (but I keep on thinking that there must be finally a NAB when they do *not* announce a camera!! Give themselves breathing space, and a chance to catch up, and not ship cameras late for once!!)

Agreed, get yourself a monopod and get a feel for using it.

Ah, I think you misread what I said. I mean I doubt that the a7R mk3 and a7S mk3 (unless they don't come out until late 2017, or 2018) will both have 10bit *or* 4K 60fps, I expect Sony will have a bit more of a lag behind Panasonic just like Panasonic was first with the GH4 then took a little while for Sony to catch up. Three cameras... one per person for the close ups, plus a 3rd camera for the wide shot.

Detail vs the resolution recorded are two similar but different things, don't forget that

I half expect we will need to wait for the a7S/a7R mk4 before we see 4K 60fps and 10bit. As the mk3 version from Sony I fully expect will skip one or both of those features.

It is just for marginally better scratch audio.

Very ironic clicking on these old threads and seeing posts like this pop up at the top to read first.

What kind of stills shooting do you do professionally? & which Nikon bodies did you get? There wouldn't be as it is designed for the larger APS-C sensor.

So will you buy a few dozen Nikon lenses as well?? There is the newer Tokina 11-20mm f2.8 as well!

Will Sony however release GH5 specs??? I very strongly doubt it!! Sony *still* hasn't caught up with GH4 specs from years ago! (No 10 bit out from any of their mirrorless cameras) Personally I'll wait for the Panasonic G80, which will have 95% of the GH5 specs 95% of the time for 50% of the cost!! ;-)

Some people have made their own Nikon F mounts I believe?

Yeah redheads and blondes are just infamous for being the ultra cheap lighting stuff to start out with, as they pack a decent amount of punch for very little cost. Just remember that while LED's are great, it is a compromise you're making (quality of light / output strength / price vs portability / battery powering / small size / less heat).

You could get TWO of *both* and still probably manage to squeak in under budget!

Options: 1) FS700 + Odyssey recorder Yeah, that is kinda just it... *BUT* keep an eye out for: 2) Kinefinity Terra 5K (the Terra 6K is shipping already!) 3) Panasonic GH5 Or, you could consider compromising on one or more of your requirements? Such as if you give up the need for 4K: 4) Sony PMW-F3 Or give up the need for decent low light ability: 5) URSA Mini 4K

I suggest a multi stage approach as the budget allows, starting with the cheapest and most absolute bare essentials: http://www.came-tv.com/3-x-800w-pro-red-head-redhead-continuous-light-lighting-stands-p-158.html http://www.came-tv.com/3%C3%83%C2%972000w-220v-yellow-head-continuous-video-studio-photo-lighting-p-172.html Plus DIY yourself many of these: http://www.thehurlblog.com/how-to-build-diy-4x4-frames-lighting-education/ And multiple ones of these: https://m.aliexpress.com/item/2025941923.html Then for the next stage after that first phase, then you can look at LEDs and HMIs as well. And various other options. But start with those, as they give you the max bang for your buck (unlike say LEDs).

if you're in no rush then wait for the Aputure D3 microphone to come out (any day now... ??). As that should provide insanely good value.

The upside however is Nikon is the best and easiest mount to get lots and lots of native mount lenses for! And Nikon F mount is the easiest mount to adapt to other mounts. So makes a lot of sense to base the core of your lens collection around Nikon F mount Is what I've done myself. I guess CES is only next month after all. However at the crazy low prices of US$1.2K ish for a D750 then I kinda doubt it will fall much lower any time soon?!

And the URSA Mini 4.6K is heaps bigger than the FS5!!

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Why something as expensive as an FS5? Seems you've got limited experience? If so start out with something more basic and cheaper to learn on first, that is still very capable and good: http://ironfilm.co.nz/a-priced-out-gear-kit-for-a-newbie-to-filmmaking-using-the-panasonic-gh2/