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I think the mini info/control panel on the operator side and the Sonosax module together make the ALEXA 35 closer to the AMIRA than any other ALEXA has come.

But that's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying their patent for 24fps should not exist, just like if they had tried to patent 9fps (or 23fps, or 25fps, etc.. the number they used doesn't matter! Any number would be wrong) that also should not exist.

They can draw the line wherever they like, but there is still nothing groundbreakingly unique that's worthy of a patent. Just because someone else has done 8fps but not 9fps, doesn't mean you can then patent 9fps. That's utterly ridiculous!

Should 24fps and 25fps be two different patents?

But to where?? Everything else is a compromise as well, just a different set of pros/cons.

No, I said this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction If going from 23fps to 24fps is not worthy of a patent, neither is going from 8fps to 9fps, or any other 1fps (or 2fps, or 3fps... ) step up up, then going from 8fps to 24fps is not worthy of a patent either.

True, probably a big factor. But then again, how many FF compatible lenses had Sony brought out when they launched the a7 mk1 series?

Remember the Nikon D1X (over two decades old!!!) is "only" 6 megapixels and a hell of a lot of billboards got shot with the D1X back in the day! https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond1x

A camera with a lower megapixel count might also be intentionally designed to be a high speed sports camera, such as a Nikon D500 or D5.

hahaha! Well, he also hasn't had to worry about selling a camera yet.

There is a massive difference between 9fps and 8fps that is worthy of a patent? Well ok then, I think that is a strange perspective to believe in though. Not necessarily a huge oversight if it is not demanded by their users, just look at how much even today gets shot in ProRes vs raw! Am sure avoiding the wrath of RED lawyers is always on the mind of every new camera company.

The Nikon D500 is arguably still today "the best" a person can get for sports photography (if on a budget that can't afford the likes of a D6/D5/etc).

Yes, the megapixel wars in photography ceased to be relevant for 97% of us many many years ago.

Wait, wait, what, this was shot in NZ? Cool! *randomly clicks through the video* *hear him talking* Ahhh... clearly a kiwi accent! Yes, am sure Fuji is feeling the squeeze from smaller and more affordable FF such as the S5, EOS RP, & a7c But if Fuji hangs around long enough for Medium Format to become affordable then they've got a bright future ahead for themselves!

Agreed, it was still a much better move for Sony than the entirely ditch their first mirrorless mount like Canon and Nikon did. Obviously Nikon had to ditch their mount!! And go with the Z Mount. Not sure what the exact set of pro/cons of Canon trying to shoehorn a FF sensor into their EOS-M mount was, but clearly they didn't think it was going to be long term worth it.

The Nikon D2H from way back in 2003 could do 8fps. And the limits back then where not the processor speed to capture or to compress the image. But simply a limit on how fast the mechanical shutter of the DSLR could go. (which of course is a limit that a cinema camera never has to be concerned about at all) But then they wouldn't have had a broad enough patent to bully others with. (plus there is the additional point, of the sheer complete stupidity that is patenting algorithms! You can not and should not patent math. The patent system in general is bad enough, but the fact there are software patents is many times worse) Exactly, although I do kinda blame RED for exploiting that patent system and using it to bully and hammer others with.

Yup, that's another example of what B.S. the RED patent is. "oh noes, someone else is already doing 1080, guess we'll just have to make our patent be for everything 2K and over!" Bet the OG Pocket Cinema Camera could have given us 2K raw (rather than maxing out at 1080) if not for RED. "oh noes, someone else is already doing 5:1, guess we'll just have to make our patent be for everything 6:1 and greater!" Not really, is there a massive difference between 24fps or 23fps?? Or 22fps and 21fps? Or 18fps and 17fps? Or 9fps and 8fps? That's why by a simple process of induction, I say no. Sony already had on offer 12bit 444 And there were already numerous cameras shooting raw such as SI-2K & Viper Proves the point that we wouldn't be all lost without hope if not for RED's "innovation", when they were merely hours earlier in filing a similar patent than someone else. Clearly this was all in the minds and familiar to numerous people around the world back then. Yes, I fully give credit to RED for launching the revolutionary RED ONE! (just like how the D90/5Dmk2 were all revolutionary as well! But that doesn't mean Nikon should have got a patent for HDSLRs just because they were "first"! Yikes, imagine a world where only Nikon could make HDSLRs?? 😮 ) And also the EPIC after the RED ONE was another leap forward for RED. Excellent stuff. But I can't buy the argument that RED has overall been a net positive rather than a net negative, I find that a little difficult argument to buy as it is on tenuous grounds. Because whatever good they did with RED ONE and DSMC1, I feel that has been greatly undone by the barriers RED has put up and stifling of the industry they've also created. Where might Blackmagic be today if not for the landmines they've had to step around which RED has placed? How much stronger might Kinefinity (& Z Cam) might be today if they could have had proper USA distribution and servicing of their cameras? (as that has undoubtedly been their biggest roadblock in getting widespread adoption in America / Hollywood. I've even had friends who in the past who looked into being a distributor for Kinefinity, but didn't because of RED. Of course now Kinefinity finally does have representation in USA, but imagine if they'd got this back in the early 2010's instead of only finally now? And without the limits RED placed upon them) Might AJA or Digital Bolex had a second chance of success with another follow up camera if they first camera didn't have to worry about strife from RED lawyers? Even worse, what is the unseen? How many companies don't even exist and never tried because of RED?

aww thanks, was a very early film! I guess it's too easy for me to just see the flaws in it. Was shot under difficult conditions, I shudder for instance now to think about how I did the sound! haha Had my girlfriend (even less experience than I!) holding the boom pole, while the audio got recorded directly into the FS700 😕 Maybe I need to go even further back... to find something properly horrible, here is my first ever short film I shot! (with a whopping 22 views so far! hahaha) But for this, I didn't have any fancy equipment like the latest Sony cine camera and a full set of Zeiss lenses. (which the other film I shared just before was shot with) Nope, was shot with a Panasonic GH1! And a monopod and sh*tty photography tripod. (no proper videography tripod back then for me) Can't quite remember what lenses I shot it on, but am pretty sure it was a Nikon 50mm f1.8D and a Vivitar 28-70mm f3.5-4.5, both without a speedbooster and just used directly with a pain Nikon F to MFT adapter. (maybe I used my Nikon 18-55mm kit lenses as well, not sure, quite possible. Was the only mildly "wide-ish" option I had for MFT!!) My girlfriend was my "1st AC" (although, that was a beyond lofty title for her role in reality!). Audio was recorded on the director's Zoom H4n.

Yeah it is not such a crazy idea to get a secondhand Nikon D500 for photography and a Blackmagic Pocket for filming with. The total cost would still be less than many of the "top" hybrid mirrorless!

That's exactly my point I made earlier, a person could buy what (they think) is "the best" mirrorless such as the a7Smk3/FX3, but within a couple of years the X-T5 / S1Hmk2 / Z90 / etc get release and you're feeling you're "missing out" (you're not!), sucking you into a never ending cycle of "upgrades.

I disagree, there is nothing novel at all to say "hey what gets done to one image, we could to twenty four of them!" Many many many bad patents are given out, and many bad patents are upheld and left standing when they shouldn't be. https://web.archive.org/web/20220306171619/https://falkvinge.net/2011/06/21/ten-myths-about-patents/ And when the RED ONE was released, the same was still true! Most were still shot on film, not the RED ONE.

Add the F3/F5/F55 to that list as well! FZ Mount is very shallow. Sony's E Mount was never ever originally designed to be a FF format. (unlike Nikon Z, or Canon RF) It was an APS-C design, for APS-C cameras, but they tried to cram a FF sensor into that APS-C lens mount! They "did" it, but left very little "wriggle room" for the IBIS to operate in.

It just rips off JPEG 2000 RED wasn't doing anything radically new that nobody else could imagine happening. They were very broad with that, as broad as they felt they could get away with? There was no other basis to it I feel.

See in my subjective opinion, the C70 is fantastic for run&gun / travel, because it is so small and compact! But that's coming from my perspective of working on professional crews. That's why there are often no clear cut answers to anything, it all "depends". A freaking damn ALEXA LF is "compact" to one person, while another person's definition of compact won't ever be any bigger than a Sony RX100!! Same applies to lots of other measures you're judging a camera on.

Yeah that happens a LOT of times in various forums, I'm sure you've noticed it too. People have an idea of what they want, and just want confirmation of their choice, looking for feedback which matches their own opinions they've formed. The worst are those who come and ask "what camera should I buy, should I get XXX_Camera??" when they have already purchased XXX_Camera! haha 🤣 yeah, is awfully hard to argue against a camera which is 98% as good at well under half the cost! And besides, if a person buys an FX3 today, within a couple of years time it will feel "super outdated" (bit of sarcasm there!) when the S1Hmk2 or X-T5 comes out! If a person is going to feel that so soon, why not just get the S5 now instead?