Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

Exactly this one. Almost glued to my camera, barely use another lens nowadays. Works as a native Fuji regards to AF, and works good with IBIS - X-S20 IBIS is better than the X-S10s, but m43 Panasonics and Olympus still are a bit smoother.

Go for it. I'm loving the camera - but, as I said, my previous cameras were CDAF MTFs. When you have some spare cash, take a look at the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 - is almost glued to my X-S20. And, for video, I think it is even a bit better than the Fuji 18-55 (which I have and love, but will probably sell).

24p movies with this one will be very expensive. 🙂

Not a definitive conclusion, but is better than the X-S10. Standing still, with IS Boost on, is very steady - but if you need to pan, have to put the IS Boost to off, since it "battles" a lot with pans. In regular mode, with pan, looks like that it fights less than the X-S10, albeit not silky smooth as an Olympus. Or as a dedicated gimbal. Did not see great differences than the X-S10 - but the previous model did not had 10-bit recording, and never tried F-Log before. As expected, the FLog and Flog2 modes have much better dynamic range, specially in the highlights. But I'm a novice working with log (and suffering to color grade it).

For me, was this case. Not as good as two SDs, but much better than a single one. Caveat: looks like the MicroSD could only storage photos, not video. For stills, all the usual options are available. A Nikon guy on Gerald I'mdone told a very plausible story: cameras with big grips put the battery sideways inside the grip, leaving room on the body for circuitry / IBIS, and the two SD slot could go on the other side. In this camera, since it would have no big grip, the battery is inside the body and there is no room for the two SD cards. But the SD and the Micro could be fitted next to the battery with almost the same space as a single card slot. And this is not meant to be a "professional" camera, if it had a single slot, nobody would find it strange - as in the A7CII.

Talking about the X-S20 itself - since I was a CDAF m43 user before (my first 2 PDAF cameras were the X-T20 and the X-S10), I could be easily impressed, but I'm liking a lot the camera. Must confess, more than I expected. Was in a music festival this weekend. First test (and one of the reasons that compactness and discreetion are top priorities for me): festival stated that "professional cameras" are forbidden. Attached the 55-200mm on the camera, facing down the ThinkTank bag, only the back of the camera visible. Security saw the size of the camera, did not even bother to ask to take a look. 🙂 Shooting music festivals is a scenario that I'm used to - but, again, using m43 cameras. Always got good results, once even was published on the official Franz Ferdinand instagram channel. Face detection with m43 usually could not detect the face from distance, but single point usually worked, and with low light and bad stage lighting I usually switch to manual focus, focus on the mic stand, put the focus a touch farther and get good sharp photos. The X-S20 not only got the faces all the time, but 90% of the time, find the eye of the subject, at 200mm, even with the singer occupying half the frame. With daylight and stage lighting. Never had so many keepers in a concert. And one of the singers and the festival channel already published some of the photos. 🙂 It is another league from the X-S10. Made two videos, but since I recorded in 6.2k 10bit 4:2:2, will need to work with proxies, and I'm still a beginner in Resolve, will need some spare time. Tested with the internal mics in Auto level, could see that the bass is distorted, was a experiment to see the levels needed, but apart from that the sound was good for internal mics (much better than all my GXs and the FZ1000). AF again was getting the eyes 100% of the time, will see the precision at the footage. Still have to test it more, but my doubts about having to go to Sony to get good AF were killed. From the tests that I saw with screen recorders with the A7CII, A6700 and some other cameras, I see minimal differences. For me, ths one looks like a keeper.

In fact, I was expecting that the fan would not make ANY difference, hence it is a plus. And since a tiny fan could make this improvement, for sure the cheaper Aliexpress versions would perform the same or better, which is good news.

Lol, kinda is. But the camera was hot to touch only under full sun continuously; in shade, or in the music festival that I was, it got barely warm. For me use (20 min clips maximum), did not need a fan at all - bought it just for the low price and as a preventive measure. But again - if the back of the camera was metal, probably it would never overheats. Guess that Fuji was worried about someone melting the LCD, but it was just a case to show a message to open the LCD screen when the temperature get above some level.

Very interesting camera. Is a Z6III-ish, not a Z6II repacked, with a lot of surprises. The option (for stills) to link the AF point to the IBIS, and the sensor moved to stabilize the AF point is VERY interesting. Never thought about it. All the newer AF algos since it uses the same processor as the Z9/Z8. Good video modes, not outstanding, but for the intended target, more than enough. Very good buffer for stills. And a lot of people are hating it, but I loved the idea of the second card slot is a MicroSD. Almost the same space taken from the camera as a single slot, but with a backup option (for stills). VERY clever. In fact, if I was on the market for a full frame camera (as an amateur), this one surpassed the A7CII and the S5II for me.

From what I've read, it is the same underlying sensor, but tweaked - the values for the Dual Output Gain were changed (which I think that involves changing the circuitry), and with PDAF (with masked pixels). Hence, no PDAF with firmware upgrade.

Just tested it on my X-S20.

Call me impressed, the little thing works. Could not reproduce exactly the same conditions - the sun moved and I had to transfer the camera to the window around the 20 mins mark, hence it had a little bit of more air. But was under the sun, became very hot as before. The Ulanzi fan was used on full speed. If the footage is long, good idea to use it plugged on a power bank / USB charger, with 25 mins the internal battery was around 50% (then I plugged it in). The yellow warning appeared on the 25 min mark, and the red around 33. And the camera never shutdown until the 128gb card is full, on the 46 minute mark. The integrated temperature meter was kinda useless - yellow on the 39oc, red on the 42oC. Another bad thing - even with the back film applied, the suction cups do not work very well; pressed the fan a bit to stick from time to time. Needs some "baby caring" in a tripod, and for run and gun it will fall for sure. In the Fujifilms, I would mod it to use the srews that the camera have. To summarize, it works for tripod use, even a bit better than I expected. But have some caveats.

Well, torture tested today - heatwave here in Brazil, 39oC outside, around 30oC inside. Put it in a small tripod in my room, no ventilation, and under direct sun (in a black camera...). 6.2k, 10-bit 4:2:2, 360 mbps, with a v30 Extreme Peo card (which gets somewhat hot - my v60s are on the way). Static scene this time. Yellow warning around 15 mins, red on 20 mins, shutdown in 30 mins. Camera very hot, maybe bad to handhold - but when under the sun, i mean it, the tripod legs were very hot too. In the weekend I made a 10 mins recording in a music festival, under the sun too (but arguably in better conditions than today's test), with the same settings, no heat warning whatsoever. For my use, more than enough. Will try the Ulanzi fan now.

Have one here, still did not tested it - I think that today I will.

Curious to know who makes this sensor - dunno if Sony announced something like it. And someone knows who is the misterious manufacturer of the GH6 / G9II sensor?

This is interesting - GFX100II testes with a lot of lenses, and compared to a Alexa Mini. The take with the Baltar looked VERY good. (ops, forgot that the site is banned here, but could be found with a quick google).

About size: if I work with still / video, the G9II will not be a problem at all. But as an amateur, using on the streets or travelling - yep, attracts attention. And about form factor (and since it would need a completely new retooling): big attracts attention, too small is bad to hold. Ideal: big grip with small body. Since small cameras with larger grips always get complaints about "pinky" finger without support, and since I agree that thickness of the camera does not attract attention and almost nobody complains about it...why not make the Sigma Quattro H style the other way around? Make the grip tall, and the body smaller. The battery could be slimmer and taller, making room for components / IBIS / EVF on the body. The camera part that is "seen" on hand would be small. One problem: would not stand up by itself on a table. Just make a sliding "feet" on the opposing side of the grip - it even could be double duty as a port cover.

Yep - but not so much when it is a "rangefinder"-esque camera. That's why I prefer it, not because of nostalgia. But...no new GXs, no Oly Pen-F II (the E-M5s / E-M10s do not attract too much too), Fuji dumbed down the X-E4 and probably will never put a IBIS on it, the X-Pros are beautiful but kinda big, the Nikon Z30 lack an EVF and IBIS...it is a shame that only Sony makes rangefinder cameras with EVF, IBIS, good af and good video.

This. Is clear that Panasonic will cut the costs to the max in their M43 line. Newer lenses? Reash of the older ones. Newer camera? Use the S5II body. That's why I think that will never be another GX camera. They think it is not worth it - "smartphones killed it", and maybe they are right. A new GX would need a serious investiment in a new body. A bigger battery (since all the new cameras have big batteries - is a problem that Fuifilm have too, and their solution probably will never pair the old small battery with a camera with IBIS), 10-bit video, no record limit (for me a camera of this size could easily keep the 30 min record limit for thermal reasons, but since the others are not limiting...), a better evf...can't see they doing that. They even did not made a newer LX100 with all that demand for X100Vs.

Maybe the BURANUS? "Where the black magic happens" 😄

And about size: my last mft camera (and the best, loved it) and my current APS-C camera. The one on the right have 6.2k open gate 10-bit 4:2:2, in H265 or All-I. 4k60 with a 1.1x crop. 1080p120 fps (did not count the 240fps option because is crap), a huge battery, and PDAF (in fact, the AF works much better than I expected, after the last firmware update). Lenses? Yep, the Fuji branded ones are bigger, but not so much. And a Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 is the same size of the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8, even being made for a larger sensor - yep, don't have OIS, but IBIS takes good care of it, and is even much cheaper. The Nocticrons are small, too. MFT should be the perfect EDC / travel cameras. Newer lenses should take the Sigma zoom route - ditch the OIS and make a 12-35 f/1.8, or a smaller 2.8. Compact f/3.5 zooms. Pancake primes. Make them cool - just look the X100v lesson. But they gone in the opposite direction.

I fact...OM Digital could have the best budget camera today if they will. Even just need to make the same thing that they did with the OM-5 - put a superior camera (the E-M1 MK II) in a smaller body (E-M5 MK III). Put the EM-5 MK III internals on a E-M10 body, PDAF included, bring back the "full" menus from the E-M10 MK II (could keep the simplified menu for newbies, make it an option), and sell it for $499. $599 even.

What about a X-E4?

I just want that the newest stuff (anamorphic modes, waveforms / vectorscope, Reala film sim, AND FINALLY general tracking for video) would trickle down for the X cameras with the same X-Processor 5. But since Kaizen is dead, I guess that Fujifilm will play the old segmentation game. Waveforms / vectorscope I guess that could arrive at the X-H2s. Anamorphic modes too, but I did not looked at the resolutions needed. Reala...as far as I remember, Fuji is not updating the film simulations in the cameras. But general video tracking, would be idiotic not to trickle down to all the newer X cameras. Have hopes to get it in my X-S20 - since is one of the few things that I miss in that camera - but...I bet not.

Looks like a very good camera. Same GH6 sensor with PDAF, but looks like they changed the mode that it worls, and now the DR in low iso is decent. High ISOs, from the lone review that I saw that tested it (Hybrid Shooter), not so much - 1600 is already noisy. As most of people here, my desire was a new GX with this tech, but the Panasonic ethos for m43 looks like "minimal investment". Newest lenses are just newer versions of the existing ones with better coatings and a Leica badge, most of the G9II chassis is based from the S5II (even the new bottom grip is the same for both). Did not see a GX model of this plataform, not even a G95II. Maybe a G100II for vloggers, with PDAF but no IBIS (to clash with the ZV-E10). Possible, it is - the X-S20, without the EVF bump, is exactly the same size of the GX9. Just put the bigger battery slanted (how it was on the GX7), a decent EVF (could be the 2.36 that everyone uses), and I would be very tempted to go back. Or, with the X100v sold out everywhere, a LX100 III with a decent EVF, PDAF and tilt LCD like the X100V. Would bought it in the pre-order (still hunting for a LX100 II in a good price, only way to get parted with my LX100 OG).