Dean

For street stuff, I much prefer some sort of gritty looking grade over a neutral look. But for close up skin tones like in the clip of my wife (not my mother btw ... I won't tell her you said that. LOL) yes, for sure the first looks better. HK is great for street photography ... very colourful and arty city with a broad mix of people. It's one of the many reasons I love living here An amazing place for sure. I have loads and loads of street clips I've shot with the GX85 & recently the G85 over the last two months but I've been to lazy to edit any of them but started going through them today looking for some interesting stuff.

And some test shots with Film Convert (Film Convert (GH4 Profile / Natural / KD 5207 Vis3). Looks kinda filmic. LOL. Same as above .. exported ProRes422 Master on FCPX and uploaded to Vimeo. The last two scenes show what 0.95 is like when used at a distance. Not that nice GX85 Natural Contrast: 0 Sharpness: -5 Noise Reduction: -5 Saturation: 0 SLR Magic Vari ND

Few Test shots with the 25/0.95 SLR Magic on the GX85. SOOC ... no correction at all. Just exported ProRes422 Master on FCPX and uploaded to Vimeo. Seems like a very nice lens. All these were taken @ 0.95 which seems usable up close but not from a distance (very low resolution @ 0.95 ... like my Nikon AiS 50/1.2 when used @ 1.2). By 1.4 things are looking good. Focusing is silky on this lens and the IBIS makes using it handheld a dream !! Not sure I could ever use a no IBIS cam again. I think these settings are fine for skin colours too. Looks very close to the actual colour of my wife's skin The settings go well with FilmConvert GH4 Natural profile as well which I understand are developed to use at default levels anyway (Contrast & Saturation). Natural Contrast: 0 Sharpness: -5 Noise Reduction: -5 Saturation: 0 SLR Magic Vari ND

Thanks gents. Will enter 25mm. Cheers !!

Another question ... If I'm using a 25mm manual lens on the camera, I'd enter 50mm into "Focal Length Set" wouldn't I?

Thank you, Jon !! Cheers.

A quick question if thats OK. I'm thinking of getting a SLR Magic 25/0.95 MTF. I realise I won't see any exposure data on the camera but will the exposure needle work? Will it tell me if I'm over or underexposed? Or will it be like it was on my BMPCC where I just have to look at the histogram? Cheers.

I bought it and used it on my G85 and followed the settings. A lot of stuff looks too red IMO. Some stuff looks good. Will test some more.

OK, great to know. Cheers.

@Ronnie Amighetti ... thanks for that. What colour settings did you have on the GX85? Cheers

Just got a response from FilmConvert regarding whether they will be doing profiles for the GX85 and G85 ... good news !! Here's their response ... "Hi Dean, thanks for your email - yes to both questions the GX/85 is definitely on our list, we're actually about to survey our users to help set our camera profiling priorities for the next few months, so don't forget to submit your request. The GH4 profile is probably a good first bet. Best Regards The FilmConvert Team www.filmconvert.com"

Do you have and footage we can look at with these settings? Are you just leaving the footage as is or grading them afterwards? Does anyone use FilmConvert with the G85 or GX85? Just wondering what settings you use and which profile you choose from FilmConvert? Would the Natural, Standard, CineD & CineV settings from the GH4 in FilmConvert be appropriate? Thanks.

I really don't know. Sorry. I have used Color Finale but never really liked it much. I've used X-rite for stills but never used the video based one. I'm not a pro ... just like shooting video as a hobby. My friend however here in HK is a Pro videographer and does use both with his Sony cams (A7Sii and FS5) and was pretty impressed.

It is a downer. Maybe I just have to get more used to it. There aren't many choices left. The EM1ii & GH5 both have FAS as well. I was surprised that the EM1 opted for this. Maybe I'll have another go at it at some point.

This is a really really nice camera but I'm going to sell it. I just can't get on with the FAS .. I hate it I've tried over the last few weeks but it's just not happening. First camera I've ever used with an FAS and I didn't realise how much different it would be for street shooting compared to using tilting screen. I find the tilting screen so much more stealthy. Guess its just personal preference as most love a FAS. Anyway, I have my GX85

Have you guys tried "Lawn Road Color Precision" from FXFactory ... it's a super quick (slider based plugin) way to do a heap of minor corrections. I really like it. I just use this all the time now when correcting footage. It has almost everything I need in 1 plugin $50. Only for Final Cut. Cheers.

Ah, OK. Why just a few hours? ... I'd return it if that was the case. One of my friends just returned his but the other is very happy with his. Seems like a bit f a crap shoot with these new MBP's.

Tested the battery life yet?

Could they ever bring back Kodachrome? It's so good that film is finding it's groove again. It will never be as popular as it once was, but it's nice that it's still being used. There's no technical advantages anymore, but the act of shooting, developing and the whole look of film is a lot of fun. I was very lazy in 2016, but in 2015 I shot around 150 rolls and developed around 100 rolls of TRI-X 400. Hipsters probably have a lot to do with film's revival Good to see these guys nearly back in action and resurrecting the old factory ... http://www.filmferrania.it

I think the Sachtler Ace & Miller Air are appropriate for lightweight cams.

I'm no expert but I went down this road looking for a reasonable sized fluid head for mirrorless ... doesn't exist IMO. They are all crap unless you get a heavy one None of the smaller ones I tried (inc the Benros) seemed that great. Not very "fluid" for tilts and pans. I used my friends Miller AIR and that was just in a different universe ... absolutely beautiful to use !! Doesn't seem there is any escape from using heavy fluid heads if you want smooth action. If your always inside it probably wouldn't matter that much anyway. Cheers.

I've had both lenses (currently have the 12-35 on my G85 and previously had the 12-40 on my EM1) and I can't tell any difference in IQ. They are both great. In reviews the 12-40 seems to have the edge at certain focal lengths but really there's not much it. I tried both lenses a week or so ago when I bought the G85 and the 12-35 just sits on the camera better as it's a bit smaller ... feels right so I opted to buy it over the 12-40. The 12-35 gives you dual IS as has been mentioned and works very nicely. No micro jitters at all. Probably not EM1ii stable (but nothing is) but very very stable indeed. Even the 35-100 @ 100 is super stable hand held for video using Dual IS. The 12-40 focuses closer and is probably more rugged, however I remember a few of those falling apart too The 12-35 is rugged enough and splash proof anyway. The extra 5mm doesn't really matter too much for me. Both great lenses but I'd go for the 12-35 is using it on a G85. Cheers.

I have both now. It really just boils down to the handling I think when deciding which one to buy however there are differences. I doubt there is any difference in IQ for stills or video with these two cameras though. The G85 is amazing value for money IMO. The G85 IMO is a nicer camera to use and work with because of it's form factor, but they both have their place in my life I'll keep both for sure. I like the G85 with the 12-35/2.8 and the 35-100/2.8 but the GX85 is just such great fun when used with the 15/1.7. The G85 is nicer to hold and use. It's very solid feeling but very light at the same time ... I think there's only 70gm difference between the two bodies. The grip is just great on the G85 also (not talking about the optional grip ... just the grip on the actual cam). Weather sealing on the G85 is a plus for me as I enjoy shooting in the rain. You also don't need to program the memory functions with the G85. When shooting around the streets or on vacation, I often quickly change between stills & video and also change between different types of stills shooting (static objects in Aperture priority with AF-S as well as moving people with Shutter priority, AF-S and burst mode & auto ISO. With the G85 I find I can make these adjustments VERY quickly with the dials on the cam as I'm approaching the subject ... I love this aspect of the G85 ... all it's dials. I only briefly used Cinelike D and it seemed a lot flatter than standard profiles, but have no idea how it compares to -5 contrast on Natural. Haven't tried using FilmConvert over the CineD profile but I'm sure it's good. The EVF is nicer on the G85. Haven't used the G85 that much, but it feels like the internal IBIS is better on the G85 when used with the 12-35/2.8. Even the 35-100/2.8 was super stable when filming all the way out to 100mm. Maybe it's just the larger form factor of the G85 that makes it feel more stable ... not sure. If I had to choose one I'd take the G85 though ... excellent handling, nice EVF and a flippy screen with dials everywhere in a tough but small package !! The G85 feels very goldilocks to me ... very much reminds me of using my most goldilocks of all AF film cameras ... the Nikon F80 Only thing missing is min shutter speed with auto iso but thats missing in every freaken pana camera !!!!!!!! MAYBE the GH5 will have this but probably not. .... And ... why can't we have a paid VLOG option for the G85 !!! Here's a nice comparison between the two cams for you ... http://mirrorlesscomparison.com/panasonic-vs-panasonic/lumix-g85-vs-gx85-g80-vs-gx80/ Good luck.

John, all of that is over my head ... I have no idea I do know it's hard to frame in still mode though (crop happens as soon as you press record if I'm remembering correctly) the times I tried but yeah, definitely has some advantages. Also remember you can't use the shutter to start recording but not a big deal. I've taken your previous advise and gone with the variable ND and shooting in manual in movie mode. Working really well ... even for faced paced street stuff.

I noticed that too but it seems like a series of stills it's taking when reviewing footage on the cam. I haven't had a proper look though all the 4k photo modes though.