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Funny, threads like will starwars will be rubbish or not millions of answer. When a question like this is asked, no answer. Anyway I spent a full day testing today and here are my conclusions, if this helps other readers: I use Color Final for grading (as a lut importer for Impulz and for basic corrections) in FCPX as well as Filmconvert. For each test I did the best grade I could with Impulz lut and curves, and the best grade I could with Filmconvert. I also tried both at the same time and this is the best sometimes. I did that for multiple shots: StandardAutumn Leaves (use by brandon lee in his nice video) Different Cine settingsSlog 2So Autumn leaves gives the best look out of the box, but is the worst when graded. Cine 2 gamma with Cine color gives EXACTLY the same image as SLOG2 after luts and curves are applied, with less opacity for Cine 2 tunings of course (because it is less flat out of the camera. I am very pleased with the result. The conclusion is: Since Philipp Bloom uses Cine 2 with Cine Color with amazing results, since I confirmed myself I get the absolute same image color as SLOG2 after the tuning and since Cine2 is much easier to work with (no need to push exposure one stop, no need to have 800 iso minimum) my best settings are Cine 2 with Cinema color. On top, Filmconvert has a preset for Cine2 so it works perfectly. If I want to use an impulz slog2 lut it is as easy, I just lower the opacity compared to SLOG2 lut and voila.

Hi, I got an RX100IV and an A7RII. I would like to match same settings on both cameras so it is easier when gradding. I have been trying to find the best settings. Philipp Bloom seems to use Cine 2 and 4 with Pro color mode. Andrew SLOG2, and I have seen everything in between. I did some test and I like SLOG from the A7RII but it is mini 1600ISO on the RX100 so too much. Plus I do not have ND filters on my A7R. I tried a setting that a guy recommend to match SLOG: Cine 4, Cine color mode and black level +15. It works okay. My goal is to be able to use some luts so starting from a flat profile. What do you guys use, and who knows which mode on A7 is closest to the CINE D on GH4 ? Thanks

Thanks. Interesting article! My goal with the RX100 is to put it on my new Pilotfly gimbal. I would like to set the focus one time and be fine at 24mm, assuming a small aperture. I am afraid diffraction is too strong at lowest aperture. Does someone found the sweet spot on this camera? Continuous focus seems too hazardous.

Hello, I cannot properly focus my RX100IV. When I put focus to infinity, infinity is in focus but very far (more than 10 meters, anything closer is OOF) at 24mm. Even with the aperture at F8 (which should give me a ridiculously big DoF considering sensor size) I cannot have everything in focus between lets say 1m and infinity. If I set the hyperfocal then anything far from me is OOF. I noticed the same thing on my A7RII at 15mm. hyperfocal rule says everything should be in focus if I set it at 0.xxm, but even set at 5 meters far objects are OOF. I need to set it purely on infinity to have far buildings and objects in focus, but then anything close to me (even 2 meters from me) is OOF. Hyperfocal does not work at all for me, and especially what is written on the lens itself (voigtlander 15mm). I did this test at F11. How do you do? Do you adjust focus all the time, or do you accept a part of the frame is not in focus when viewed at 100% ?

the camera too.

Just ordered the pilotfly as well. Waited for this Nebulla too long. Epic failed product launch

Thanks! I was asking. Currently having an A7R II. Thinking about NX1 for video / D810 for stills (therefore Nik NX compatibility).

Amazing news if true. It means next Nikon cameras will rock (imagine a D810 with Nikon still and samsung video tech) but http://nikonrumors.com/2015/12/02/10-reasons-why-nikon-acquiring-samsungs-camera-business-doesnt-make-any-sense.aspx/#more-99691

Is there a Nikon to Samsung lens adapter? Is it working well?

1DXII will for sure have 4K. 5D4 according to CR will not. Still, for sure 1080p will be better and it will have DPAF. But honestly 1080p is not enough for me. I am selling some 4K footages already, so imagine 2 years from now? ...

I have the same problem as you. I have the A7R II. But I can't be satisfied with still quality of 7D, 5DII (had both) and even 5DIII (had it also). As far as I am concerned I love A7R II still quality. What I hate is lenses, ergonomics and long exposure noise which are big issues for me. I love it too for video. My ideal set up would be a D810 for stills with a 14-24 for landscapes and a 85mm for portraits. And an A7S II with let's say 35/55/85mm for video. But this is too big, and too expensive. There is not a solution yet. A7R II was close thanks to its photo/video quality but still missing. 5D4? Probably no 4K, not even HFR.... D820? Probably not before 1 year, probably 4K but will it have clean 120fps..? Then we are left with the DSLR problem for video : lack of EVF and nice focus peaking, tilt screen, ... I would just love a 5DIII body, with Canon menus and ergonomics and Canon lenses, with an A7SII video spec+quality and a D810 still quality. All of this without the mirror, with an EVF and all sony video functions. AM I the only one to wish for this? All of this tech is existing in cameras today, so it is not the moon to ask... But I have the feeling it won't come anytime soon.

So the product ships but there is not a single video to show. Absolutely amazing guys, great marketing!

Nice review from DPreview. I am very impressed how A7R II 1080p kills D750 1080p, and even GH4. 4K is very good also. Does someone has a feedback concerning the 1080p@60p as I asked above? Thanks

I agree with both of you. We all have different perspective and different need. On my side S35 look in video looks fine to me (I mean, I am happy with the results and I don't need more small DoF, especially because I use 35mm 1.4 type of lenses..) The real thing that is a pain for me is the 120fps. I love it and need it sometimes, so it is a pain to not have it with A7R II. But my choice is because I do landscape photography a lot, to have the 42mpx over the 120fps. Anyway I have a question (Andrew or anyone who used A7RII / A7S II?) : Cinema5D write 1080p of A7R II is equivalent to A7S 1080p, (in FF mode), which means very good unlike let's say 1080p of A7R. First, is this true ? Secondly, and more important for me, is the 60fps 1080p of A7R II as clean as the one of A7S II (both in FF mode), and if not, is it still good and clean or bad? If it is as good it could make it up for me, for the lack of 120 fps... Thanks a lot.

A7S II vs A7R II interesting article by Cinema5D https://***URL not allowed***/sony-a7s-ii-vs-a7r-ii-test-which-one/

Check this: https://***URL not allowed***/sony-a7s-ii-vs-a7r-ii-test-which-one/ A7R II clearly better overall for versatility except if you specifically need the best world high ISO for instance.

Andrew. It has clearly been stated that 1DXII will be announced before 5DIV, and that 1DXII will be announced begining of 2016. So I expect 5DIV sometimes in 2016 but not sooner. Reason for more than 3 years: they know if they don't keep up with Sony DR they are dead because people will either buy D810/850 / D750-760, either A7R II. People are all waiting Canon move. They can't miss it. 4K is the same problem event though without 4K the 5DIV will still be a success for stills guy (if it has 14DR, and usual iso, fps, AF improvment). 1DXII will have 4K for sure apparently. I just don't want a 8k body and this big.

What are you trying to prove here man, except try to piss me off and tell me I am a retard buying a camera I knew had this default? I saw the FM post, DPR and many others since a long time. Most of the issues shown were not on images properly exposed with 0EV PUSH. I am seeing same amount of confetti noise on a properly exposed image with 0EV push as images shown in threads with +3EV push. And again, I did not purchase this camera for its long expo capacity. I am just shocked how non usable it is.

because if you actually read the thread you will see that people said the issue is solved with FW update. also because I have no choice. Give me a camera that does well stills and 4K and is full frame ?? also because I would have never imagined it is that horrible, those confetti (people said they come after pushing up exposure). LENR is not a solution. It gives far more "basic" noise and is 12 bits only. It is actually worst. I don't have capture one but if it solves the issue completely without concessions I will buy it.

Yes to all question. again, proper exposition in the center of the frame, of course around the frame it is darker due to strong vigneting of the lens. I took a picture of a wall, which was fully lighten by multiple light and with a completely uniform light. So I am not even taking a picture of something with shadows here !! In these darker areas from the vigneting it is full of confetti, without pushing exposure at all it is so viewable and awful that I am going to show it to you just by taking a picture from my phone of the back screen of the camera when zoomed !!!

So I got my A7RII with a great voigtlander 15mm for landscape. the camera is amazing for many points (IBIS, EVF, video functions, ....) the biggest problem is long exposure. I put a 1000 ND filter on the 15mm and get strong vignette (normal). But then I looked at the images and STRAIGHTS out of the camera (on a daytime landscape at 30s exposure) I get the confetti noise on the vignette dark part of the image so basically in 40% of the frame. Even without changing exposure or shadows.!! Even without zooming ! Even on the back camera screen ! It is just unusable .... so you get a ND filter to make a long exposure, but this nd filter darken the corners and then you get monstrous confetti 'so clearly worst than planned and clearly NOT USABLE for long exposure. Even a T2i does way better. Such a disappointment ... 'the other problem is the menu and ergonomics, it is just not nice to handle compared to a DSLR... I dream of a mirrorless in a 5D body with 5D buttons and menus.... With same specs as A7RII. Canon if you listen.......

Absolutely amazing review. all reviews are the same and here we get some real info. I am so happy I got the A7r2 instead. But it has a non acceptable issue as well that I will describe in another post.

Who cares about Nikon Log when you have AWESOME - high DR - easy grading Nikon Flat? What is this mania with Log nowadays? What counts is not the name of the thing, what counts is a nicely gradable profile decently flat that retains DR. Who cares if the name is log, HDR, flat, superfustia or mustafa? Lol, seriously... Nikon D810/D750 are absolutely awesome camera, years ahead of Canon ones. Reason why I chose A7RII over those is: 4K high bitrates Tilt screen (not on D810) EVF Nice video functions such as focus peaking, .. .. IBIS The day Nikon release a FF camera with 4K, I throw the A7R II out of the window ^^. Except if Canon really impresses us with an amazing 4K 5DIV with great codecs, DUAL PIXEL AF, Canon Log, ... I really want them to do that but I feel the worst... I had the Nikon D5500 and honestly it is a pleasure to grade. Low bitrates for wide detailed shots is a deal breaker, lack of details compared to 4K too. It just does not cut it. But they are close. Nikon, give us a D850 with 4K, tilt touch screen (not gonna happen lol), good S35 4K mode, 42mpx BSI sensor, "nikon boosted" DR (compared to Sony for the same sensor) and same Flat profile and color like D810. And that would be a dream camera. Don't even care about IBIS thanks to news good lenses like the Tamron 35mm 1.8.

And honestly ....... Do you do landscapes with ISO 3200 ? Lol.... Seriously. DR is useful at base ISO in most cases. I would rather have better DR at base ISO than having better DR at high ISO. And anyway, Sony has the A7S II for that so where is the problem ? At least they have products for everyone.

Lol that is why the 1DC can do 4K with Digic 5....... Lol you know what? You remind my a part of Philip Bloom blog, let me quote it: "I don’t subscribe to the idea of using the shittiest camera you have because you are an artist and you can make anything shine. Nonsense. Use the best camera you have access to. The camera is NOT the most important thing. You and your ideas are. But don’t be a camera martyr and say “my work is what is important hence, not the camera, I shall film this on my iPad!” Don’t be silly now!!" But sure, there will always be people like you, that will find excuses to Canon for not innovating and throw 4K$ at their bulshit. I am not speaking about art here. I am not debating about can you do a movie with a phone. I know an iPhone in good hands will make a better movie than a lambda guy with an Epic Dragon. THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION. I am speaking about technology, marketing, things like this. From a technology viewpoint, it is not acceptable to release a flashgip camera like a 5D for the years to come without 4K. The same way it would be unacceptable to release it with 11.8 stop of DR for stills when competition is >14stops for years now. If you disagree with that, and if there are more people like you on this planet, then Canon will never change this habit. Because there will always be some people ready to buy a Canon because there is a Canon name on it. And don't serve me the Canon is for pro because it is reliable and they only serve technology when it is working, Sony serves non reliable geek product blablabla. Nikon proves since years that having 14 stops of DR AND a Pro and reliable body can cohabit together without too much troubles..........