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The recording length is a bit of a bummer, but most of my stuff is under 30 minutes anyway, and I don't foresee using 4K60p that much. Given what little work I've done has been on the far more limited (compared to the GH4 and GH5) GH3, the G9 seems like a good upgrade.

So DPReview has released its review, and I'm warming up to it even more. Any m4/3 users who do more stills than video here have any thoughts?

Exciting, Panasonic really going after the top-end with 3 high-end cameras in 12 months.

Ah, there're two versions. Thanks for the info. Amazing that the newer lens is worse than the old one.

Over time I've warmed up a bit to this; I'm a 9:1 stills:video person, so this might be a nice upgrade from the GH3. I hope on the video side there's more than just an upgrade to 4K from the GH3; would like a few more features (especially with focusing) in the mix.

I thought Dual IS needs the new lenses? So are you saying I don't have to sell my v1 lenses (12-35 and 35-100)?

Sure it's not a fridge? :P

Tokina does! In fact I think they were the ones who pioneered it. Fujifilm also does it for some of their lenses.

Well shit, looks like it's back up to $600.

How did you disable it? There's no option for it on mine at all. I did read there's a way to cheat by just overloading the cloud portion and ignoring the sync warnings. Like I said, I find the tools pitiful and lacking. I get more done on Snapseed.

I really doubt that's the case. Nikon can implement their own designs in Sony sensors (best example: Nikon 1 J5 with the Sony 1" 20mp sensor that has Nikon 1's own unique features not found in any other Sony camera), so it seems to me there's a combination of engineering, marketing and political issues at play here. Don't forget Panasonic has PDAF patents of their own.

I don't have your confidence. https://***URL removed***/articles/0476255060/adobe-lightroom-5-beta-google-hangout 15 May 2013: Adobe Product Manager Tom Hogarty stressed that Adobe has, 'no plans to make Lightroom subscription-only at any point in the future.' https://blogs.adobe.com/photoshop/2017/10/introducing-lightroom-cc-lightroom-classic-cc-and-more.html 18 Oct 2017: Lightroom 6 is the last standalone version of Lightroom that can be purchased outside of a Creative Cloud membership. There will not be a Lightroom 7 perpetual offering. Lightroom 6 will remain for sale for an undetermined amount of time, but will no longer be updated with camera support or bug fixes after the end of 2017. https://***URL removed***/videos/5816515871/interview-adobe-will-absolutely-continue-investing-in-lightroom-classic 23rd Oct 2017: We don't want [the name change] to be perceived as a lack of investment, or a lack of effort with that product. Right. Pardon me if I don't really want to believe in them. 4-5 years may seem like a long time, but it will come. I'll take my time in exploring LR alternatives.

*sigh* https://blogs.adobe.com/photoshop/2017/10/introducing-lightroom-cc-lightroom-classic-cc-and-more.html What’s the Difference Between Lightroom and Lightroom Classic? Going forward, the product you’ve known as Lightroom will be rebranded “Lightroom Classic CC”. Why change? We have introduced a new photography service that will now be called “Lightroom CC”. It is designed to be a cloud-based ecosystem of apps that are deeply integrated and work together seamlessly across desktop, mobile, and web. Lightroom Classic CC is designed for desktop-based (file/folder) digital photography workflows. It’s a well-established workflow solution that is distinct and separate from our new cloud-native service. By separating the two products, we’re allowing Lightroom Classic to focus on the strengths of a file/folder based workflow that many of you enjoy today, while Lightroom CC addresses the cloud/mobile-oriented workflow.

The new version of LR (not LR Classic) REQUIRES you to save your photos to the cloud. There is no option to not use it. In fact there is an option available to turn off saving to the local drive. It's also incredibly dumbed down at the moment; for example there's no curves tool.

DFD isn't so bad for stills, after all, once you nail it, that's it. Video however will show the annoying pulsing which in some situations is very very obvious.

Hey, from one small freelancer to another; while it's good to specialise, don't get too caught up and miss on other opportunities. Also, plenty of people will egg you on to get the shiniest and latest gear, from salespeople (a Phase One sales engineer's eyes lit up when I said I was freelance) to other forum-goers. Remember the difference: You're a business now, compared to amateurs who have the discretionary income to do so. Watch that bottom line and good luck!

You are aware there're two versions of LR right now, right? I've no doubt Adobe will eventually kill off the older version once the new one is deemed mature enough. I however don't want to rent space in the cloud so like the OP, I'm going to see what other options there are.

I'm sure he's not going to stick around doing that one job forever, and he's already said for what he does the Sony does a better job for him. A theoretical D900 is when his cashflow is in a better state to afford a luxury like that, and when he can plan on expanding his business to a more profitable segment.

It's $10 a month still, $20 is if you want 1TB instead of 20GB for the new Lightroom thing. I do agree you should be looking for a LR Classic replacement because goodness knows how long before Adobe kills off LR Classic but you still have some time before that happens.

There you go, that's the right decision then! Once you become more established and have cash to spare you can always come back for a much nicer Nikon camera, like say, a D900.

That's a good question, why?

Wow, this caught my eye. That seems low for a video job; you're right you'll need to minimise time while keeping a certain level of quality. Mirrorless definitely has its advantages here. Remember, at the end of the day, you have to do what's best for your business, I do suggest thinking as logically as possible and leave as much sentimental thoughts out of it (ie the Nikon is such a nice camera) and focus on whether you can provide the quality to your clients at the price you're charging. Don't forget to evaluate your current lenses too, that'll play a part in deciding which system to keep.

You have to state what's your issue with the A7S. I've been photographing with a GH3 after switching from a D300 and other than sports it's doing the job.

For you Americans, maybe having fixed 60hz is good enough; but I've been to enough places where I know I need to switch between 50/60hz. G9 not having that is kinda a downer, even if I don't use 90% of the GH5's capabilities.

Given other similar lenses are a quarter to a third of the price, this is incredibly expensive. I really really hate the Leica branding, it's definitely over-inflated the prices on these lenses. I'm very sure it's to cater to legacy users who're used to looking at a top plate of manual film SLR; as cameras became more and more electronic the top plate is really an awkward place to have a status LCD; I realised this when I used a Minolta Dynax/Maxxum 7 (that was a really nice camera). Still I'm curious over the G9, my GH3 is still serving me very well but it's always nice to have options. Edit: Just saw that the G9 has an extra lens mount button in front as well. More controls are always good!