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just got a Gitup 2 to go with my GX80 for underwater shots etc on initial tests the audio sounds better than on my GX80 ! further testing required

thanks very much markr041 - will try that btw - surprised how many negative comments in review below on video quality of the GX85 - especially DR wise - I'm genuinely surprised https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GnkQo2clM at 10 minutes in - specifically states thinks the G7 has better video output than the G85

could anyone recommend a good reasonably all round starting point for video please - settings wise (contrast, sharpness etc), and WB - don't want to spend hours colour grading - but don't mind doing a bit (using Resolve) also - I'm so shocked at audio quality from internal mic - anyone recommend an external please ? currently I'm between a H4N (would it attach to hotshoe via adapter ?), H2N, Tascam DR-40 (same price as H4N in UK) or Sony SX2000 ....

I see DXOMark has reviewed the GX80 now - looks good to me http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Panasonic-Lumix-GX80-GX85-sensor-review-Diminutive-design similar DR to the APS-C sensor in my Nex 5n - which matches my qualitative views from the photos I've taken so far Bought a Hoya Pro ND16 filter the other day - what a difference it makes to the video quality I've seen a few complaints around various forums about the Dynamic Range on the GX80 in video - I'm surprised

did you watch same video as me - substantial difference in background noise between the GH4 and GX85 in that test video

whatever sensor it is - I'm very impressed with it pin "sharp", decent DR, and great colours

same sensor as G7 I thought ?

thanks for settings and process you used markr041 - very impressive have to say - looking through pictures I took of my kids over weekend - this sensor seems to take some of the highest detail photos I've had from any camera (and I've owned a good cameras, including 4 DSLRs) - if this is partly due to no AA filter - I know what is on top list of features when I buy my next camera 100% ish crop - with minor sharpening in PP. This is with the 14-140 II .... - not bad really !

nice video - impressive demo of the IBIS ! I was expecting video to be good - and it is but the stills have caught me out - I'm getting really nice sharp photos from my 14-140 II - wheras previously I was always disappointed with my G6 this is just a "snap" in the garden - but the camera and lens has done great I think

why would the 4k output be fine on the GX80/85 but soft (comparatively) on 1080p ? less in camera sharpening ?

I was very doubtful ref my commitment to M4/3s after the G6 - useability great - but photo quality - wasn't convinced with - just didn't like the output much, dull, seemingly not great DR, and files didn't seem to like much post-processing Lightroom GX80 was cheap enough to take a punt on - at a minimum would make a great video recorder But .. GX80 from initial tests seems much better photo wise vs my G6 - photo ouput seems very similar in IQ to my Nex 5n - and that is a VERY good thing - the sensor to me seems much much improved

went to park with daughter this afternoon what an amazing little camera the GX80 is - the IQ is stellar both for photos and videos - I'm really impressed the photo quality far exceeds that of my G6 - I'm even enjoying the 12-32 now ......

ok ok - maybe I'll give the 12-32 a chance then ! cheers it seems near silent with it's OIS at least - unlike my 14-140 II - so may get around the annoyance I have of very loud background noise when taking video with the 14-140 ...

yeah that was the deal I went for (except I got John Lewis to price match ) great value for money just now deciding whether to sell the 12-32 on or keep it (have a 14-140 II) not really tried the 12-32 yet - but feels a bit like a toy

fuzzynormal- thanks very much for taking the time to reply - useful tips/workflow Tested the GX80 photo wise out today - and its impressive, I seem to be getting much sharper shots out of my 14-140 II - not sure if it is the extra steps of IS (probably), lack of shutter shock, or better sensor, but overall the IQ is noticeably better the images seem nicer colour depth and DR wise than my G6 - very noticeably so. The output from the GX80 reminds me of my Nex 5n - which is a good thing. Previously when out shooting with the 5n and the G6 - the G6 photos were noticeably "duller" - just something about them seemed flat - and they didn't like much post-processing (probably lack of DR)

I'd not swap the EVF on the G6 for the in-built IS on the GX80 though ....

i'm finding the EVF ok - it does what it needs to do really My G6 one is much bigger but still not accurate enough to really determine if in focus or not I prefer both EVFs to my DSLRs I owned previous (Fuji S5 etc) I'm going to experiment with the 12-32 tomorrow - feels like a toy compared to the 14-140 - but hoping less IS noise the IS noise is really annoying in videos I'd have bought a G8 or GH5 - but the GX80 will do in the meantime Question - but not to go too off-topic - if you use external recorder, how do you work out which audio is to which video when you get back from a day or week or shooting ?

true thanks I've just come back from a day out with the kids - party, dry ski slope tubing cannot believe how much better video is with the GX80 vs my G6 - obviously 4k vs 1080p, but that aside, the overall quality seems better, and what a difference the extra stabilisation makes, makes the videos seem far easier on the eyes to watch - no constant jiggling it even coped with me taking a video from one tube to my daughters, whilst zooming down the ski slope that video looks smoother than ones I've taken with the G6 just standing ! very impressed - great little camera

took a few pics - late at night here - took a few videos - image and video stabilisation works incredibly well I'm very very impressed only big BUT at the moment -is currently audio is a bit unusable - I could hear fan noise when I took a video of my daughter - couldn't work out what it was (pretty loud and very obvious) - its the noise of the OIS in the 14-140 which is only a cm or so from the microphones on the GX80 ..... mmm

well size caught me out (no local shops had one to demo) after thinking grip way too small - putting a finger underneath and all good build quality seems better than my G6 EVF "OK" - useable - no real issues

Javier lovely video - nice one thanks for taking the time to share settings - I'll give them a go when I get to try my new GX80 out btw - your English is excellent - no need to apologise !

my GX80 arrived an hour ago - looking forward to giving it a whirl GX80 + 12-32 but will probably ditch the 12-32 as have a 14-140 II had one of UK stores match the £499 price for kit package so pretty happy - as after cashback means £450 - which including the 12-32 seemed good value to me

I'd have been tempted with a GX8 as I like the form and fit - it feels nice in the hand BUT I get absolutely fed up with having to consider shutter shock all the time on my G6 (with my 14-140 MKII) add the built in IS and its a no brainer

theRenaissanceMan - thanks very much for the reply

how does the sensor compare G7 vs say the latest GX80/GX85 ? is the G7 newer tech and therefore lower noise etc or about on par ? presumably G7 and GX8 same sensor ? but GX85 ?