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Within a country completely locked to travel, a foreign business is very hard to manage remotely. Globaltime being a propaganda newspaper, it will be hard for them to speak about this. I have witnessed so many businesses closing their factory in China for this reason that I will not say that I'm surprised.
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I'm so sorry you feel offended by my previous post.😘 As you admit yourself not having any geek knowledge to determine the exact usage a NVMe drive; I was just trying to clarify the post you where sharing. It was, in no way, an attack to the filmmakers community that knows shit about technical stuff but still keep re-posting absurdities. My only goal is to make this great forum a better place with my real life experience (and love.🥰) I always had a commitment to support the filmmaker community. I can only bow to your message and ask you for ultimate forgiveness.🙏 please, please. I hope my personal hack last Sunday, on this forum, with an easy way to reset the Canon R5 timer is enough to be absolved. Please accept my full apologies if you felt I was having condescending tone or look like I was some kind of geek. Even if my degree was related to computer science, believe me; I have tried to stay away from techies and other complicated process my entire life. A quick fact check on my previous post and personal blog should reassure you. The truce is far less interesting. It's almost sad, even. I'm a very simple camera guy. I have been shooting only few days so far; made a count last year and it was just about 1,000 shooting for the past 15 years. I have put this in my humble website if you like to give a look by following my profile name. I know it's a low and this is obliviously due to my lack of skills as a cameraman too. I really sucks at everything I commit. My client are obscure companies like Disney, IBM, Apple... as you may check. My eyes start to be full of water when writing this down. The "Filmmaker" title's is way beyond my reaches as my old age is now a translation of back pain and loss of eyesight. I might be retiring without even getting the glorious title of "DoP". Ok, you are making me cry now. It was not a good idea to write about this.😢 And you know the worst of all; I don't even own a Canon R5. I had to ask for help here from a fellow member to test and validate my findings. Only this way it have been proven to work. The saddest thing of all;I have invested on two Sony FS7's few years back and may never be able to shoot with a DSLR. I',m stuck using cine lens and other heavy gear forever. That mean that I will not use my hack for myself and will donate the entire result to the the community I was hoping to join once. Thank you for listening. Here is love again ❤️💖❤️for you and the beautiful movies you have been making all over the world that I can see nowhere. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
You are taking sentence out of the context. Yes, a drive is not removable easily from the enclosure and, no you may not swap drive on the fly. It's like saying SSD are not removable media. Still, they are used everyday as removable media cause the interface is something else that what is inside the enclosure. But this system is an enclosure for NVMe drive that will put the heat away from the card reader , allowing cheaper and very large drive capacity. The heat generated by the card can be way easier dissipated than a CFExpress card. I actually have such enclosure for another project, it's all aluminium with a thermal pad around And, by the way, you should talk to DJI; this is what they use on their Inspire 2 as drive.... But they change the connector type to be more sturdy. If you look at ZITAY product, they already successfully implement such solution for black-magic camera, without a need for extra external power. (CFFast to SSD) The product needs to be tested, but it specifically states R5 and Z6 / Z7 (and other C300 camera) It have a screw thread to secure it to a cage. This will help dissipate heat. And if you go for large version, it's a great option to reduce overall cost. CFExpress card are kinda 512 GB max, with nvme you can go to 4TB for similar price. You unscrew the drive when you have 4TB of data, so, maybe one a day. This product come with a cover to push the door switch and so let the cable going out. So the door will be open during shooting. I have 0 test so far, but it's look great to me on the paper. I let you do some research on their website, and not just pick up sentences from a different discussion in a blog. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Great finding, I was looking for such without success few weeks back. I guess t's about market demand versus offer! I did similar test on my DJI Inspire 2 and I did not lost any data writing raw 5K. I'ts also a money saver as you only buying the drive and not the card. This is one way to solve 2 issues at once. USD 150 if you found them online in China. https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.28.29076df3HVdowO&id=626009844453 The price will be falling down as soon as competition kicks in. -
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Like external recorder on top of camera-hand held do not exist? We are not living in the same planet. More people try to explain canon choice, less it makes sense. All Canon explanations was about electronics that can't hold warm temperature since day one. I's call "overheating" on all their documentation for a rason. But as this do not work with the external no limit recording aspect; there is now a new idea floating around about your skin getting burn, but only for internal recording not external cause the camera is on tripod?! And that's why removing the timer is so dangerous? But nowhere to be seen on the R5 user manual a specific warning on external recording and heat? Why? Just because you want to defend Canon and their infamous timer choice? If you believe such fairy tale;I have some interesting business proposal for you investing on offshore account that will brings you 20% interest in 3 minutes... And please explain me the "overheat" compare to "do hot to touch" Why do they even call it "overheat" and not display a "to warm to touch" logo? Why we only talk about this now and not when it all started? And, wait. Explain the 1 hour cooling time? Especially if it's only to not get people burn by touching and nothing to do with internal temperature. One hour to be able to touch it again? Really? It's time to wake up. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
That explanation do not make sense. When using an external recorder; the camera is also getting super hot and Canon have never limit recording when you do not have a card inside. Without any hack, you can record forever. So any exercise to explain that electronic overheat and need an hour to cool down or that people get burned and other fantasy do not stand when you start talking "external recording" without time limitation. How all electronics inside the R5 will not fries if you keep recording externally for hours under a body that you can barely touch, but suddenly need limitations, even when using inside a fridge? Canon need to explain me this very funny temperature management standard. Either the camera is not safe running at hot temperatures and external recording should be limited. Either the camera is safe for long recording and the timer should go. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Canon Just released a Firmware V1.1.1 for R5 and R6 Be aware of possible lock down on my hack finding last Sunday. Even if I think it will be a very fast answer to roll out a firmware in only 3 days, that's still a possibility. At least, it may be able to do a file comparison between V1.1.0 et V1.1.1 to see what changed is any. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Penta Pi### contacted me and said they will write about it but nothing happens. Gerald Und### too, but so far nothing on his channel. The new firmware V1.1.1 have more coverage even if he brings very limited functionalities. I can notice 2 positive articles https://www.4kshooters.net/2020/09/09/canon-eos-r5-firmware-1-1-0-overhating-tests-and-results/ and https://www.diyphotography.net/the-eos-r5-overheating-issue-is-solved-and-its-a-super-simple-only-slightly-hacky-workaround/ It still better than nothing! -
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
No, No need to do anything It's very simple. Canon do a very simple calculation. When camera is running, a counter is setup. When the counter reach a certain level, you have a warning logo. If you keep recording, the Log will become a shut down. This raise a flag that I will call "Fake Overheating flag" At each of these step Canon is writing the exact time this occurs. Let's call it the "overheat start time". This is done in an eeprom that is kept even if you remove the battery. The writing occurs when you shut down with the power button. This is the mistake right there. There are only one way of getting the camera to work again is to wait extra time. Canon do a simple calculation between "actual time" and "overheat start time". This way, even if the camera is off without battery, they can keep the time running with the help of the RTC. It's a way of doing coding something very fast. They also put a conditional test on "Fake Overheating flag" to make sure changing the time during the overheat mode will not change this calculation. My best guess is that they modify the "overheat start time" with the same value the camera time is shifted in this condition only. So each tentative to play this way is not working. But I have the impression that the new "overheat start time" is written ONLY when the camera is power down. The new real time is written immediately. So by dropping the battery, you are avoiding the "overheat start time" to be written and only the last one is in the memory. When the power is restored, there is the calculation to see if you have been waiting enough. But based on the old "overheat start time", not the one shifted by the time modification. BOOOOM. So the flag is now remove and the camera can start. Even better, The camera is writing this new "Fake Overheating flag" value into the EEprom. So you can turn off the right way and it will restart without any problem. You can now shift the time back, there is no check for a possible "overheat start time" cause we are not supposed to be in overheating mode. So whatever card you are using, whatever R5 or R6, whatever firmware... it's working. That was my idea at first when I noticed that the battery drop do not save all parameters. An yes, it works so beautifully. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Thanks for finally put my words in video. Do you mind if In put this one into my post? https://www.visionrouge.net/canon-r5-overheating-hack-solved/ -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Confirmed by dellfonic user on magic lantern. This is the final refinement on my hack. You have the right time for your recordings! -
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I have another step for anyone to test also. I should work, but need one beta tester to be sure. Follow the previous procedure to push forward the day as I discovered. When you see that the "overheat logo" is gone; turn off the camera using power button. [this is the extra step] At this time, the "overheat flag" is now written into memory. Turn back on the power with the power button. The camera is now booting from a regular boot. So if you have no warning here, the camera is absolute fine with temperature. This not a "special boot" anymore And the beauty of it, you can now push back the day as the actual day. So with this extra step, all your clip are even at the right time. Can someone test this ? Thanks I will update on visionrouge.net if so. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I do not have a R5, another user MagicLantern user did it for me if you check my posting. https://www.visionrouge.net/canon-r5-overheating-hack-solved/ The battery grip will act as a regular battery, so it's a no go. It hold the same door switch as I have understand. You can either use the screw in the door idea or use the dumb battery option that I prefer. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating timers, workarounds, and Magic Lantern
visionrouge replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
This is primary tested by one user, he put all his camera details as reference. Please wait to get backed and test with the Firmware 1.1 also. 1) I really don't see why the card format should have any impact there as the camera is not recording during the shut down. This time, this is just the date/stmap that is modified and not read at this specific boot. 2) Yes, at each time your camera is displaying the overheat logo, you need to increment to the next day, hours, month, year. But if your camera, during lunch break is able to cool down by itself anyways, you can put back any date. The idea is to trick the timer only when overheating flag is on. The camera at boot look at (current time - overheat warning time). if it's more than the predefined "fake recover time" you are good to go.