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I got 2 GX85's for a specific project, so I can attest to the brand loyalty thing. I've used Panasonic cameras for a long time and brand comfort makes the choice to buy-in to a new camera for this gig a bit easier. Plus, the dang things are ridiculously cheap. That said, I still think the 5-axis in the Oly EM5II is just a touch better than what Panasonic is offering; industry leading. However, there's a caveat: that's only when using non-OIS lenses. If you have a Pany OIS lens paired with the Panasonic sensor stabilizer, it's really good. I'm also really loathe to turn away from the ergos of my EM5II. I'm surprised that I connected so much to the EM5II, to be honest, but I do love how it just works. If only Oly had better motion picture IQ...

You have to pixel peep, but, yeah, it's a bit better at smoothing out edges. I wouldn't bother using it for 4K footage that's delivered 1080.

Don't disagree, but I'll add that re-scaling is certainly useful when shooting a documentary. Run'nGun shooting is all about circumstances and compromise. I can be happy with 95% of my shots, but if I can make a shot better with a bit of judicious cropping I'll do it. I ain't proud. Give me a technique I can exploit, I'll exploit it. I'm not shooting with a 4K camera because I want to re-frame all my documentary shots, I'm shooting 4K because it offers options if need be. --And then there's this whole thing, as if this thread needs to go more sideways: http://www.eoshd.com/2014/02/discovery-4k-8bit-420-panasonic-gh4-converts-1080p-10bit-444/

That's "pan-and-scan" not a dolly move. No parallax effect=no dolly shot.

GX85 reference source files. 4K 30p: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ind5m3i55ref68n/AADuWTubn7qDQpSeTaRi7r_Ia?dl=0

Oh! Not my kids. Nephews. Yeah, once that iPad game time is over with, it's a whole different reality/existence of chaos.

Here's a handful with white balance set using a WhiteCard and the same settings listed as before: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mfixcrz7c91fdqk/AAB6OtlZ2GDtcU_yrkRCBrDfa?dl=0 Also, I changed the lens. Used something modern to compare with the previous set of shots: http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/m-zuiko-digital-ed-12-40mm-f2-8-pro.html The image redering differences are interesting to pay attention to. Also, smaller aperture than before meant I had to boost the ISO, so these shots are f2.8 @400-800 ISO.

No. It was on purpose. For instance, Sony and Olympus cameras tend to drift a lot when under AWB. I wanted to see how consistent the GX85 was or was not. Experimenting at the moment, not doing "real" shots.

I just rolled off those shots with that Inazuma setting-suggestion. FWIW, I didn't set the white balance. It was on auto white balance. I'll experiment more manual Kelvin as well as presets.

Medium format cameras are neat-o.

Natural Color Profile: 0,-5,-5,-2. Indoor shots with a 55mm FD lens, Chinese Speedbooster, no filters. Stabilizer set to 40mm Highlights set to -2 White Balance Adjust A:3 G:3 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sqfycip8z52s3z9/AADEWeIG1R1i1hUObtrLGlrea?dl=0

Natural Color Profile: 0,-5,-5,-2. Indoor shots with a 55mm FD lens, Chinese Speedbooster, no filters. Stabilizer set to 40mm Highlights set to -2 White Balance Adjust A:3 G:3 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sqfycip8z52s3z9/AADEWeIG1R1i1hUObtrLGlrea?dl=0

The guy should do whatever he wants and be who he is. That's why I'm here, anyway.

You can see some clips I shot with a "no brand" chinese adapter in the download and share thread.

All handheld of course. Shot with way too much caffeine in my system, had the shakes a bit. Also, trying to manually focus using the LCD in bright daylight. Pretty challenging, but really just trying to shoot at an extreme to see what would or would not happen or what I could or could not handle.

Experimenting with the GX85. Shooting under sub-optimal conditions. Bright mid-day light, hard shadows, etc. Cheap Chinese speedbooster with a 55mm f1.2 FD lens, B&W 64x ND, and a Tiffen circular polarizer. No lens hood. Neutral color profile -5 -5 -5 -5. Most shots @f2. Here's source footage straight from the cam: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/694tsb6iwy5y6um/AABOcE_3WUiCMY18xyOuTLEaa/GX85?dl=0

Experimenting with the GX85. Shooting under sub-optimal conditions. Bright mid-day light, hard shadows, etc. Cheap Chinese speedbooster with a 55mm f1.2 FD lens, B&W 64x ND, and a Tiffen circular polarizer. Neutral color profile -5 -5 -5 -5. Most shots @f2. Here's source footage straight from the cam: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/694tsb6iwy5y6um/AABOcE_3WUiCMY18xyOuTLEaa/GX85?dl=0

I've been shooting "generic" and "dumb" Chinese focal reducers for awhile. EOS & FD mounts. As mentioned before they're not perfect and might not give you infinity focus on shorter lenses, but I tend to shoot standard lens focal lengths for 90% of my stuff where the infinity focus isn't a problem, so they've been a bargain and, thus, pragmatic for me. For short lens shots I just switch to my native m43 12mm prime. It really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Based on how I shoot, I just figured it didn't make much sense to overspend on Metabones. Besides, a few years ago I was burned on a shoot with a Metabones adapter that failed (the electronics more or less hijacked the controls of the Sony FS-700 I was using) so I was unwilling to chance re-visiting that experience.

These facts are well known to anyone that really uses various cameras to do stuff. It's not as complicated all the words pooped out onto the Internet would have you believe. Just shoot with the stuff for 5 minutes and figure it out for yourself. Results are blaring obvious.

Sure, but it's a technical medium. Nerds are needed. That's why cinema is such an inclusive craft/art form. Making movies needs a big tent. The technical and artistic.

The GX85/GX80/GX7II doesn't have audio input. Not sure what you're getting at...

But nobody wins internet arguments. Thus, there is a failure to acquire e-penis points. I am now sad.

How do I score e-penis points? That sounds like something I need.

I record audio directly onto my EM5II files. The preamps are not great in the EM5II, but I find that the human voice while using my sennheiser e100, I get recordings that are perfectly acceptable. The key is to turn down the input level of the EM5II so the floor is as low as possible, and then send the fattest line-in source audio into the camera it can handle. I even let it drift ever so slightly into the red. Also, with this setup you can headset monitor whatever is going into the camera. Certainly helpful. You'll need the EM5II grip accessory to monitor the input. I was bummed about the need to buy this art first, but the camera feels so much better with the battery grip. Plus, you get hot swap power.

Be sure to pick up some tolerance for a lot of inanity. It's an election year here. "Election" means something different to the U.S. culture and its citizens than it does to the rest of the world. Plus, there's more than a bit of political existential hand wringing going on that we need to sort out, so expect even more navel gazing than typical. Going to New York City? Maybe consider a visit to B&H. Not only to consider a purchase, but check it out for social study. (and you can review the EOS thread about that biz from a few month back too) And no, US customs won't care about you carrying a camera. Not sure where you're returning to, but I doubt it would matter there either. I've never had issue bring gear into Europe...save for Spain, but that was decades ago before the EU and we had too much pro cases with us to be inconspicuous.