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It means it's now APS-C. !

Yeah! It just takes it all in! It's pretty dang sweet. It's the go-grab camera and I love the basic style with the dials and rings. There's something pure and fuzzless about it. It's pretty solid up to ISO1250 (but there's noise at lower levels already, that's really where the G7 and GX80 stepped up the game). Yet... no live feed out over HDMI, would've loved an articulated touchscreen... audio is a tough one. But yeah, as with all cameras, there's things it is and things it isn't. The kitlens of the GX80, as seen on the GM-line, is a weird one, I was already trying to make it turn when I was like 'oh shit, it's a zoomring only', it's so weird. xD Not sure you would keep it on there all the time unless you need the sleek profile and zoom flexibility. I think it's more fun with a ZY Optics/Zhongyi/Mitakon 25mm f/0.95, Lumix 20mm f/1.7, 42.5mm f/1.7 (OIS) or something like that. Think the Leica 15mm f/1.7 would be a great go-to lens for it (still eyeballing that one hard!).

I use it for zoom and sharpness. It crops in on the middle which is the sharpest part of the image circle. Mostly with these bright primes at f/0.95 they're quite soft, especially in the corners, so you're more likely to use 'em at f/1.4-f/2 where they get noticeably better, unless it's a stylistic choice to go for the smooth dreamy look. Another thing is zooms. There are some great f/2.8 zooms out there that you can boost (making 'em more sensitive than the Panasonic and Olympus f/2.8 options (that can't be boosted)). And the f/1.8 Sigma is a delight of course! Super useful for the range and sensitivity. Metabones XL makes a lot of glass out there get around the Hollywood f/2 mark. It allows adaptation of all sorts of glass with all kind of price tags. Maybe like me you use a Nikon body for stills as well, which makes your lenses serve double duty. EF mount is a little nicer in terms of mounting flexibility (Nikon is prone to have some issues with certain mounts concerning infinity focus, which requires additional glass correction elements, of which the adapters degrade image quality pretty significantly I would say)... however, I have no native EF lenses and do not require the electronics which makes the EF SB XL the more expensive option. And it's nice to just mount a Nikon lens directly without additional adapters... so I went with the MB SP XL for Nikon and for EF have a Mitakon Lens Turbo II, which doesn't quite have the same reduction, but it's tremendous value nontheless.

... who uses a gorillapod and has the 80D with side flipped out screen and wears sunglasses to hide the fact he's checking the framing on the right of the camera. The M5 already borrows some of its look from the Canon G5X. They should've implemented the same display solution. Or atleast have given it the same as found on the G7XII. But there are clear reasons vloggers consider Canon. Quick shooting. Quick turnarounds. AF is the smoothest out there, color is the nicest out of the box, tons of compatible lenses and accessories native to the system (and quite adaptable (more so than the Nikon mount)). 1080p keeps editing not that demanding and allows for quick rendering and uploads. It the least effort with acceptable results. But the M5 falls short I think...

The BMD Micro CC was marketed with global shutter... in the end... they couldn't deliver on that promise and pulled it from the (seemingly finalized) specs (which made me order it). I was rather bummed when I found it was going to ship without the feature, which goes to show I'd rather have them release specs that they know they'll do, rather than making a prediction as a hard statement and then hopefully manage to pull it off somehow. Also... Craft Cinema Camera... But yeah, I do get that they had to say something at Photokina. I was expecting them to! We all want to know: is it in the making? When should we expect it to hit the market and what can it roughly do? I do think it's going to be a significant step-up in the way the m43 crowd shoots video! Like the hacked GH2 and GH4 were! In between the GH4R and (paid) firmware upgrade... and the G7 and GX80... I think we're going to be in for a treat. But you've got to be realistic. The GH5 is going to be the most productive and allround video tool in the DSLR and mirrorless market and have the best bang for buck. Yet sensorwise... it's not going to rival fullframe. Then again, that's only logical. Light gathering ability for each pixel is just not the greatest. But you know... isn't that the case with actual movie cameras either? If you look at Blackmagic and Kinefinity for example... you're expected to light your scenes and manage. Shooting ISO6400 is just not something you would/could go and do. That doesn't make fullframe options less interesting, especially for the run-n-gun type who shoots a night scene with just the camera on little to no budget... because then you can't deny the benefits of its flexibility. You can put it in any lighting scenario and it will cope with the conditions (to a certain degree). If that's the most important thing to you, look no further and get one of the Sony A7 series cameras (with their own issues; really comes down to the game of: pick your poison). I think it will be another one and a half year perhaps (2017?) before we see the new tech (organic photoconductive film (OPF CMOS) sensor with global shutter) hitting the market. That you may rightfully call a 'gamechanger'. But we're not there yet. It's a step up, as said, with V-LOG L and an anamorphic mode as firmware upgrades... with the GX80 sensor performance and stabilization however... we've seen that we can expect the GH5 to be a significant up from the GH4. And that is just how you need to see it. Still gives you struggle for wide focal length lenses. Isn't magically going to see in the dark with no noise or create crazy shallow depth of field by itself. But it is great value for the money and it certainly will be a treat to use stand alone as well as rigged up. Secretly I was hoping for something between the GH-line and the Varicam, because getting a cinema tool step up from the GH4 and end up between 2999~9999 you'd be looking at the Sony FS5/FS7 (or something older 2nd hand), Blackmagic URSA Mini/Production Cinema Camera, Canon C100/300/500, Kinefinity Terra, (2nd hand RED package perhaps). In other words... a lot of people learn with the GH-line and when it's time to step up, their native lenses are probably useless and they have to look at different brands. If I were Panasonic, I would want people to stay in my eco system (and keep their money coming my way), hence create something Kinefinity/Blackmagic style that keeps in mind users coming from a GH4. Something like a true successor to the AG-AF100 but adhering to the modern standards and expections as well as being more compact and affordable. I mean, at around 3000 USD you buy a body only A7SII or A7RII. Can you imagine the things Panasonic would give you for that kind of money?! Something like JVC did (somewhat out of the blue) with the LS300... but done the Panasonic way with the GH heritage. Unfortunately the GH5 won't be that. I thought... ok, the G80 is now roughly the ultimate hybrid camera for stills and video. Maybe they make the GH5 really premium and focussed on video like that. But from what it seems, this is another ultimate hybrid camera... instead of what I was hoping, something in between the GH-line and Varicam (or as I've called it before 'the VC5' (a more serious cinelike approach to the stills hybrid GH5)). Doesn't make me less excited for the GH5 though. Might tick all the boxes anyways (with features that are now well implemented, ditching the YAGH-brick for a more viable solution and still being nice to use as-is, as well as being discrete on the streets and affordable to purchase).

Well... concerning somewhat wide lenses... to throw a couple more in the mix... The 15mm f/1.7 Panaleica (that DJI uses as kitlens) is still something I'd like to get myself! Olympus still has the pretty mean 12mm f/2. Kowa does a 12mm, so does SLR Magic, but I can't remember if these two were any good. Veydra has a 12 and 16mm. If you were to shoot BMPCC... the Kiev-16U 12.5mm f/2 or Zenit Optar S16 might just do the trick?

Yeah, the GX80 is lovely in size! Here next to the LX100: But... the G80 sounds more like a pre-GH5. A little crowdwarmer. I think it's quite convincing offering the best of the G7 and the GX80, making it a nice allround tool (making up for some lacking features of the GX80). But of course the GH5 will have some tricks up its sleeve to pull ahead quite a bit and up the productivity. While the E-M1 mark II sounds like it will be a dream for hybrid shooting with stills focus and casual video shooting. Agree on the Mitakon. I happen to like some character and flaws as well... not that there's something wrong with clinically sharp perfect bokeh lenses either. But it paints the picture differently which might just be what the situation demands.

Not sure, today I received a dualboot (Windows/RemixOS) Chuwi Hi10 Pro tablet/keyboard dock combo without any... so... flyin' underrrr the radarrrr!

I didn't understand much, but what I've taken from that is that they're also releasing a camera bag that looks pretty stylish (0:22-0:25)! Agree with what was said previously. I order from Tmall/Taobao from time to time (no need to learn Chinese, it's a website that works like many others, so most is perfectly logical, for other things, just use Google translate). Used to have the agent MisterTao. Recently changed to Cssbuy. Does help save a couple of bucks. Although I'm sure webshops like Banggood/Gearbest/Geekbuying/etc and platforms like AliExpress will go and sell 'em too (I would expect a ~ 30 / 60 USD increase from local China retail price (be aware that you might get charged with import duties, though!)). There's going to be a much higher premium involved if everything is logistically and customs (shipping & tax) sound with added franchise, warehouse and support fees from setting up business overseas. Just the way it is I'm afraid.

The new Olympus E-M1 mark II sounds sweet as fuck. Hope it's any good, but who knows. We all know that Canon's DualPixel AF and Sony's 4D AF is up top. A lot of AF systems still progressively focus to the back and then discover 'ah, that was one step too many' and go back to lock the focus in place just before that. That looks so silly. In the end you can make anything work, these are just tools. But it's either the budget, features, process or results that pushes you in a certain direction. A choice is the result of eliminating the other options, so pick your poison... what's worth to you the most? If you say you love mirrorless and use an E-M5II right now... I'd say, stick around for the E-M1 mark II. They've got some stuff up at https://www.youtube.com/user/getolympus/videos and sure does look impressive. Nothing wrong with Canon either. Although, usually it's the people that stick to Canon that have been using it for years and years. Not sure that many people make it their top pick these days. But, it gets the job done... if the job is to tell a story with visual imaging. If you tell your story right, it shouldn't matter what it was shot on, you can just use a potato. But what do you enjoy using the most to get it done? What gives you the best possibilities? For some it's a high frame rate, so they can do better slowmo. For some it's a bigger sensor with low megapixel count for light gathering and bokeh. For some it's color and ease of use. For some it's having something compact yet powerful. It all depends. Don't think you need to be all too worried about the glass. You can buy second hand and it will probably sell for roughly the same if you've got a change of heart...

Luckily they include an example of how you should use one: xD Not creepy at all!

Yes, but it's still how the 'FZ'-philosophy started and why I'd say I'd personally rather make do with 12x instead of 20x zoom for example if that would mean constant f/2.8. That's how the RX10 started out doing it as well (8.3x @ f/2.8; although in meanwhile they're at 25x f/2.4-4 too, guess my wishes don't reflect most of the market, 'cause else they'd be stopping this zoom race and jacking up those numbers).

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I've enjoyed shooting with my Fujifilm S8000fd and Canon SX1 IS a lot. The things I didn't like... fuzzy manual focus, sucky in lowlight and lens usually doesn't start that wide. Other than that... apart from that 1" sensor, that new Pana FZ2500 might cover all your basic needs. Too bad they didn't stick to the FZ200-formula of having a constant f/2.8 aperture lens. I mean, zooming in to 560mm equiv or something is cool too, but I'd happily ditch some range for better light gathering ability. I think bridges are super flexible though. I usually take one when I travel and expect to see different environments and shoot during daylight mostly. For cityscapes I prefer either something like the LX100 or a interchangeable one with a few neat lenses. Don't need that much range in the city. Do appreciate the better lowlight handling there and adding a bit character to shots with some purposely included bokeh. Also... with sensors that small you also going to get contrasty images with highlights blown out and shadows crushed. They do give you a lot of detail though. I was somewhat amazed by the panoramic capability of the FZ1000. You could see every leaf in every tree.

The other day I saw Gibson had ented the market for easy pro-ish mics kinda like that... http://www.neatmic.com . Looks hip, thought it might be worth mentioning/looking into. Currently I'm expecting the Mikme from Indiegogo (Vienna be representin' yo!). https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mikme-wireless-recording-microphone-audio#/ Although I agree, these are more like podcast mics, not sure if that sorta thing blends well with ADR or what it is you were planning on using it for. I guess there's nothing quite like a soundproofed booth with suspended condenser mic and pop filter close to the mouth... but yeah, that's not always feasable.

This camera will be dead serious about video! Nice! But first I'm just going to get the Pana G8x and Oly E-M1 mark II I think to replace the G7, GX80 and E-M1. Pretty much covers every basic need. For more control and possibilities however, the GH4 might just have to make way for that GH5 with LOG, anamorphic ratios/de-squeeze, pro audio solution, battery life etc. Although, I wouldn've have minded if they had something between the GH and the VariCam line-up for video. Something in the direction of the Kinefinity Terra. Basically all the GH5 mojo but not inside a GH4-style body, but a Terra-like body. But who knows what the future holds!

It's an interesting approach with some interesting things about it. Design and use philosophy are kinda cool. Price is right on the money! Would be cool, just as an alternate angle cam and fun little thing to just play around with. Don't think image quality and usability will be all that, but I know I gotta get my hands on one to find out!

Oh boy! I was afraid they were going to put all the focus on stills and keep its video capabilities on the very down-low... (keeping the E-M5-line more video centric), but it seems, on paper, this might have it all... the only thing I'm scared for now is like crazy shot ruining moiré or something. This seems like a hybrid dream. Hopefully I don't have to wake up to a cruel reality. I'm loving it! New sensor tech. Superfast readouts/processing. 4K. Dual cardslot, improved AF, vari-angle screen, mic in+headphone jack, timecode even, flat profile, legendary Oly stabilization. It's all there. The only reason to get the GH5 is the cinema application shooting with stuff like LOG and anamorphic ratios and de-sequeeze. Super exciting!

Ask him to send you a sharpie.

But cool share nontheless! We should fill a whole thread/section with tips like that.

If you're monitoring with it only and not externally recording... it doesn't really warrant getting a 4K input capable field monitor for your end uses? The GH3 is 1080p. The GH4 can downconvert the output to 1080p and probably so will the GH5? I think there's more problems with output/input framerates. Just check the specs and google experiences for that. About the Video Assist... from what I remember it only takes 4K over SDI and then downconverts to 1080p for further use. If you're just looking for a monitor that's fairly affordable, I think the Aputure line-up could make sense for you? If you're interested in the Lilliput 663/O/P2... I replaced mine with the more portable Q5. Not sure if you care about portability (casual) or toughness and features (set-up/tripod/studio), but if you'd be interested to take the 663 of my hands... give me a shout.

Depends. The Micro Cinema Camera records internally just fine, so it's a bit useless to get the Video Assist? Although it's a decent screen for framing. Recorder functionality might come in handy for dual/back-up recording and as well of course you could pair it up with some other cameras you might use from time to time. If you really want monitoring features... I think you owe it to yourself to get something that's a dedicated monitor. I like Lilliput. I had the 663/O/P2 with some cool features, but it just was too big and too heavy so I ended up using it very little. Have just gotten the Q5 in the other day! I love the size (btw, it's 5.5")! Haven't gotten around to play much with it yet as I've been way busy working these last 6 days, basically just unboxed it to see how it looks and what was included, so uh... can't tell you that much quite yet. Need to charge some batteries and hook it up when I find the time. Think the Ikan is a valid option... especially if you care for size. Or maybe score a SmallHD from the used market, not sure what those would do? If you want something dirt cheap, on AliExpress you can find the VIltrox DC-50 (what's that? You think it looks a whole lot like the Sony CLM-V55? Hum. I don't know, I don't see it ). Of course, you can also go for (compared to the Q5) less sexy Lilliput 569. Or Feelworld A5, FW5D, or MustHD... Bestview or what have you.

Man, I need to call it quits and go to sleep. That's it. xD

Ah, yeah, I see now (burnt through my lasts bits of energy today, so didn't bother to look everywhere)... http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-full-gx85-lx10-fz2500-press-text-leaked/ Does have the 180° tilt touch display I begged for and f/1.7 improved to f/1.4 on the wide end compared to the LX100. So I'd still be tempted to get swapping.

Ah, sorry, you're absolutely right... 'but optimizes' [..] 'Additionally,' That's a big but (and I cannot lie!) Long day at work... my eyes/brain only reads what it wants to read apparently. Well that.. kinda... blows (0:39). What's the lens on the FZ2500 anyways? Is it again not a constant f/2.8? That's kind of a bummer with the FZ1000, it falls off zoomed in, unlike the RX10 series.