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It looks horrible due to the grade. F-Log is basically Rec2020 with similar color coordinates and it looks like no conversion to Rec709 has taken place which results in kinda Sony like skintones - I agree. But the potential is there definitely. Definition and texture look great even with standard settings as it seems. The GH5 isn't great and maybe not much better in terms of overprocessing in comparison to the Z6/Z7. The footage actually needs lots of processing to hide the internal processing which is as it sounds, ridiculous. The footage from the BM P4K wouldn't need any of that, just put a diffusion filter on the lens and you should be good. The grain in the ISO5000 sample I saw, looked really pleasing, wouldn't even denoise that.

A feature film I just finished. Many shots in the trailer up to ISO6400. Everything shot on the GH5 (two shots on the DJi Phantom 4 Pro and one shot on the GoPro 6) Still wouldn't want to continue shooting on the GH5, since the Blackmagic Pocket 4k and Fuji X-T3 look way better while the new Nikons look a few steps back. This was shot on the X-T3 with the standard sharpening setting which actually looks great. So if you do sharpening, do it right. ?

Was the noise sharpened though?

Let me guess, you didn't download any of the raw/prores footage provided by Blackmagic or others to date? ISO5000 looked extremely clean in these tests with lots of detail - AND no signs of any sharpening nor noise reduction, which are basically the definition of a digital looking image or what the Nikon Z6/Z7 and Zcam 2 do. The Fuji X-T2 did a lot of filtering to skintones. The H1 and X-T3 don't. At least in their F-Log and even Eterna modes (when both sharpening and nr are turned off).

Sounds like an excuse why the Nikon Z6/Z7 might as well look as smartphone footage with better dynamic range and lowlight (well a bit). Btw. my GH5 looks better at ISO5000 than the Z6 in these examples at ISO8000 with its tiny Mft sensor... Because it looks so harsh?

Nikon Fanboy? What Nikon did here is as unimpressive in terms of footage as my phone or Zcam 2. Digital looking af. If you want to do some serious (non-digital looking) film work, Fuji and Blackmagic have way better options coming soon.

It actually looks pretty bad, even the daylight shots. Nothing like what Fuji and Blackmagic are going to offer.

And sharpening algorithm tries to compete with my phone...

Apart from the bad color grade (Seems like they forgot to apply a Rec2020 to Rec709 (both gamma 2.4) conversion beforehand) this looks absolutely breathtaking!! So much resolution, but still smooth...

Seems like 12:1 quality setting should be enough for most occasions. RAW, 4K DCI 60p on a regular SD card should be no problem anymore...

Oh you can. Even matching 4K with SD - if you blur and then downscale footage of course. ?

Am I the only one who thinks the examples shown in this thread look horrible? Some of these look like shot on a phone in terms of aliasing, overprocessing, bad dynamic range, lack of texture etc... I would rather get the Fuji X-T3 or BM Pocket 4K which look way more organic/filmic or even wait for the Panasonic full-frame offering.

Haha, Mavic Pro footage is inferior to many phone cameras actually. The Mavic 2 Pro is a whole different league.

Guessing here, that China (maybe India soon as well) already has become a more important market to Blackmagic... Same happening for phone manufacturers.

Will be there.

...when the actual video looks like a BTS...

Just realized that F-Log footage basically just is nothing else than Rec2020 gamut with a LOG gamma - kinda similar to what HLG does. Makes it perfectly compatible with ACES colorspace. Just need to apply a curve and have filmic looking footage with some great color. Now I'm even less sure which camera to choose (BMP4K or X-T3)... BMP4K footage doesn't work in ACES at all. The red channel oversaturates way too much and I don't think any IDT (CTL) developed by Blackmagic in the future can help - unless they change their color science...

Looks like C200 non-raw footage. Heavily filtered without any actual detail but unsharp mask halos... No thanks. The XT-3 and Pocket 4K produce way richer footage.

We will see flying pigs before... Yh, seems like the ProRes footage is free of any sharpening and noise reduction as well. Really promising.

Well it is less sharpened technically, but also has a lot less noise reduction! So you're actually seeing more detail especially in shadow areas.

Has somebody seen any footage with sharpening set to something below 0? On the P4P I have to set sharpening to -2 and codec to H264 to have the least amount of sharpening without blurring detail. At -3 fine detail and textures in shadows are messed up (like the Mavic Pro does) and an overall blur of low contrast textures when set to H265. Maybe DJI fixed these issues...

Looks stunning!

I agree. Grading went wrong - in many directions. Somebody tried denoising the ISO3200 footage? Works extremely well and looks way better than anything I could even achieve on my GH5 using ISO1600 actually... Download here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wUgDW2keiCEiEKb9F3kSLOr6Pwm5u7uq (used Neatvideo (70% opacity) and grading in Davinci Resolve) BTW: walking-night footage is available now!

Ok, I'm sold. No artificial sharpening, looks way smoother than in the vimeo clips Amazing level of detail for a 4K sensor. Great colors. Great dynamic range. Rolling shutter seems low. (where's the chroma noise from the vimeo clips?) Here's a BMD Pocket 4K Color Science 4 to Rec709 conversion + curve screenshot

Basically that's what I did with the Rec709 "source" lol I guess I can now finally try BMD Log color science 4 as ACES input. ?