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To me it does. Just watch the AF comparison video from Max Yuryev. The GH5 doesn't do AF very well but smokes the Sony in terms of skintone reproduction, lol.

The Sony looks kinda messy again, with it's ugly Highlight Aliasing™ introduced in the FS700. Wondering when they will finally fix that... Apart from that, the GH5 wins every other category as well. Interesting that both Cameras were at ISO1600 F4. What does that say about lowlight capabilities when Panasonic ISO 1600 is basically as bright as Sony ISO 3200?

Well, Panasonic will say: At least it's free of noise, lol

Again, IQ is flawless on this camera, really high resolution 4k without any moire or aliasing. But the further processing really sucks for filmmakers. No professional camera does this.

The problem isn't the codec or IQ, it's the heavy internal processing like sharpening (it's an unsharp mask with 1.5 radius actually even at -5 sharpening) and noisereduction which cannot be bypassed. DJI uses the same sensor with really cinematic results, by using no processing instead.

I just think the GH4 looks way more cinematic, seems way less processed to me. But Panasonic seems to be to proud about their new processing algorithms to allow for a mode without any processing like DJI, Blackmagic, RED, ARRI, Sony etc do...

The more footage I see from this camera the more I'm worried about. I've seen zero evidence yet, that this camera can look cinematic at all. Everythings looks processed as hell, makes me want to sell all my Panasonic stuff and switch over to URSA Mini Pro instead... It would have been so easy, but Panasonic simply isn't interested to provide a processing free mode (DJI does it with the same sensor, results are amazing!).

I would always recommend the Beyerdynamic DT250. They sound better than the Sennheiser HD25, thanks to way less distortions and higher resolution and bigger stage, while still being closed and neutral in terms of frequency response. Actually they're way better than my ATH M50x I had before!

I don't see any problem with the codec or 10 bit or 9 bit color information, the quite strong processing even when sharpening and nr is turned down to -5 worries me quite more. No professional camera does this...

that's like 9.5 Bit for their Prores files...

It's exactly the same as the internal one. 10 Bit (or 9 Bit). Still 4 times more information than the the 8 Bit V-Log on the GH4...

It seems like every of these clips used internal noise reduction and sharpening at 0 or even worse. So I think the problem isn't there when setting the camera up properly.

That's why I would never use any noise reduction or sharpening in the first place. Basically you have lots of fine grain on any professional camera, even the BM ones. It helps a lot.

Added grain and blur actually. Not a big fan of the digital look this camera produces using sharpening: 0 As for full 4k, download original

The Codec defintely didn't break up, the colorgrading did! Look at my example:

It's basically adding lots of saturation, then contrast using curves (find a proper black value using the waveform!), shifting the hues (bright green a bit to yellow, yellow a bit to orange, orange slightly to red, red a bit to magenta), desaturating shadows and highlights, desaturating bright oranges (helps for skintones as well), pushing gray or low saturation mid and dark tones (not black though, leave dark skin color the way it is!) to teal a bit, adding a bit of grain. That's it basically. :D

Well for the second question, if you're using V-log you can just create a monochrome LUT and upload it to the GH5.

Why not using the 6k Photomode in 4:3 instead which IS 10 bit 420 instead? Besides the colorscience I only see drawbacks to the GH5 as a filmmaker... Oh gotcha. The 4k Photomode is 60p, 4:3 or 3:2 and probably 10bit as well, there haven't been any files to download and analyze for me yet.

I actually trust Kholi as well, but not this time. Comparing V-Log to S-Log on the A7sII? C'mon... If it is nearly as good as V-Log on the GH4 it'll put the A7sII to shame in terms of color science. Watch my showreel to see what I mean: Almost 99% internal V-Log! And yes, I've been using the a7sII quite a lot, always struggeling with the color, even using different profiles and combinations (such as Cine4, Slog2/3 SGamut 3.cine/3/2 etc). On the GH4 I just hit the portrait profile with: Contrast 0 Sharpening -5 NR -5 Saturation -2 Hue 1 And it looks almost identical to the color corrected RAW output of the FS5...

Nice to hear that. Can't wait to get my hands on it (moved to the US before the GH5 arrived in Europe, lol). Can you try if the Dynamic Range is better using Portrait mode (my goto if I don't have any time to colorgrade footage on the GH4)? It seems that highlights blow out incredibly fast on the GH5 compared to the GH4 or people don't know what they're doing, lol...

Thanks for calling me close-minded. I actually should be glad that almost nobody cares about producing filmic/organic looking video and should stop giving away any information how to do so. People don't understand why they like filmic looking footage, but they pay when they see something not looking like being made with a smartphone, lol. -6 would be nice actually, since -5 still shows slight hints of oversharpening halos (no dealbreaker here, optical filters will take care of the rest). Not quite RED/ARRI/BM/SONY etc... like, but a bit better than the GH4 already.

So you prefer are picture full of sharpening halos and other (more pronounced) artifacts instead of real detail? Well my Galaxy S7 should suit you then, lol

Sharpening 0 equals to Sharpening -5 + an unsharp mask of 2.2px and 50% applied (Actually could be 2Px width as well)

I use two 4k screens. One 27" IPS LG calibrated (Delta values below 1 for each color). And a 40" Philipps MVA screen. The bigger the screen is, the worse the sharpening looks. What I don't understand is, why do people love videoish sharpening?

Maybe we start seeing some Videos without this ridiculous oversharpening from now on. Nah... :D I really don't get why people love this oversharpened videolook, even Emmanuel Pampuri does (discussed with him on this topic)... It affects fine detail and motion cadence in a very bad way as well, but nobody cares...