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Glidecam HD4000 No batteries, no firmwares, no problems during travelling.

Yeah, maybe software caused aliasing more visible. This time I used some of the older builds of mlrawviewer 1.4.1 (i am on PC) to convert MLVs to DNGs (but with vertical stripes correction ON). Normally i use MLVFS almost all the time. That little amount of aliasing doesnt bother me at all in fact (only visible in very high contrast places). Little bit of sharpening could also make it look worse.

DNGs: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n7eksew7jynt6ya/AAASjbpnpvhw0c9vX8PfgANza?dl=0

"That aliasing in the first video at 2:20 at the fence for example, pretty ugly." Yes, you are right but i think this comes more from my mistake than from hardware side, i am still learning resolve. I will post couple of original DNGs from this particular moment for you to check.

I have just finished two short videos from last year vacations. Shot with 5d3 with ML installed in raw.

When you talk about bodys, buttons etc - nobody mention that 5d2/5d3 are weather sealed, with good L lens one can still shot raw video when it starts raining without any preparation. This is not a small thing when one is on a trip in remote terrain.

i use sandisks extreme pro 128gb 160MB/s and they never let me down. They write 1080p raw 24/25 fps with NO stops (from 5d3, they are much more relialiable than komputerbay 1000x which i also have but not using now). You can also continously record 50 fps raw with 2,35:1 aspect ratio (with lower vertical resolution but very usable). You can do 65 fps for about 6 seconds, you can extend this time by reducing resolution (you can set whatever you like in multiple aspect ratios). With full 1080p quality with 2.35:1 aspect you can record 10-11 seconds at 39fps. Back to the cards - having two of them where each one gives 23-25min of footage and copying takes about the same (~70-75MB/s with CF, ~20-25MB/s with SD) gives almost continous recording. I would say that having 3 or 4 would be just perfect. And those cf cards gets cheaper and cheaper (1/3 price drop from the last year). In my nexto i can swap HDD drives very easily, it supports up to 2TB so you can take couple of these with you It has an internal battery which lasts for copying about 400-500GB but can be also powered from te wall, car lighter or cheap USB powerbank The current model ND2901 can also make the second copy to external USB 3.0 drive. How cool is that? CFast cards are still so damn expensive and devices like nexto which supports cfast cards are over 2000$. If you need any information go to magic lantern forum http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php

Of course they are, raw2CDNG, MLrawviewer, MLVProducer, MLVFS (for mounting MLVs and using "virtual" CDNGs - no need to unpack). I work on a PC and there is everything I need for comfortable work.

@rak_heri Yes, it does very good. Now cameras records raw as magic lanterns own format - mlv files, it carries sound, metadata and other stuff.

These days working with ML raw is a breeze. Reqired CF cards are much cheaper than a year ago. I have 5d3 and love working with raw. I have bought 2 sandisks 128gb 160mb/s and they NEVER gave me dropped frames. Never unexpected recording stop. NEVER. It is very reliable. 128gb last for about 25min 24/25p 1080p. My workflow now is: -put CF card to the reader - 2 seconds -use an app called MLVFS which "mounts" the files from the card and makes them virtual CDNGs - 128gb take maybe about 30 seconds -open resolve 12 and import files - 30 seconds Color correct, cut, do everything and export - there is NO need for any conversions at all. Thats it. There is some nice app, all-in-one solutions in the making right now - called MLVProducer. On shoot i had 4 CF cards and nextodi 2730 with 2TB HDD onboard. Archiving 128gb takes about 25min. Then i can take HDD out, plug it to the PC via sata cable and work straight from it. Memory is getting cheaper very fast. Instead of investing 2-3 thousands $ into new camera (and cry about 8bit etc) i rather buy 8 new sandisk cards for 1300$ and have 200 minutes available without a need of copying it on set.

Well, it seems that canon dslrs with magic lantern onboard will stay with us a little bit longer...

1080p 10bit 240fps footage, please..

I would like to see this too. Please upload some files straight from card, 1080p 10bit 24 or 25 fps and some short 120 or 240fps clips if possible. Thanks

Could you please make it also with 5d3 ML raw? I am very curious because it seems that we cannot make any real step forward (in pure image quality) with affordable current hardware, instead of that there are still some new cameras which looks like step but backwards. 5D2/5D3 with ML are still a real workhorses, recent software developments (MLVFS, MLVProducer) and fast CF cards huge price drops will keep them very good/decent for a long time.

Hi i have just posted my new clip, 5d3 with magic lantern raw, graded in resolve.

Shot with Canon 5D Mark III entirely in raw. 1920x1080 25fps I used two sandisks extreme pro 160mb/s 128gb. I used canon 16-35 f2.8 L II and canon 70-200 f2.8 L II IS lenses. Smooth shots made with Glidecam HD4000. Graded with davinci resolve, edited with Premiere Pro CC. I didnt have any problem at all cheers

Hi, What workflow do you use with ML raw that you call painfull? Right now there are great tools to work with MLV files. Current fastest workflow: (you have to install MLVFS first, its free of course - takes couple of minutes, maybe you know this way): -insert CF card to the reader -select all MLV files, right click > quick mount > wait couple of seconds -start resolve, import footage - edit, color correct> render. Thats all. or if you use Premiere CC2015 -insert CF card to the reader -select all MLV files, right click > quick mount > wait couple of seconds -start premiere CC2015, import footage - edit, color correct> render. I dont know if faster workflow is even possible, it is really only one click more than working with h264. I have tried to work with some downloaded slog2 files from a7s, dont think that 8 bit 4.2.0 log footage will be as flexible as 14 bit cinema DNGs. It will be much smaller files though. Getting great colors out of slog2 will take you much more work and time unless you are very experienced colorist. I was also thinking about such a change once but the cost of the switch to a new system (metabones for canon glass, couple of batteries etc) was higher than just buying a couple of new hard drives. A7s looks great though and mark ii will probably blow it out of the water. Oh, and about low light - MLraw works briliantlly with neat video - i am impressed how much better it cleans the image and how much more detail it retains when its raw and not compressed h264.

I have never had any heat issues with 5d3 and i am using it 2 years in different conditions recording mostly raw but sometimes h264. Magic lantern has a temperarure meter build in so you can see what's going on, sometimes it goes to the orange field but no stopped recordings so far.

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.0 According to this table 5d2 can do 1856x1004 (in no-cropped mode) continously due to CF write speed limitation (75MB/s). Difference between this and 1080p shouldnt be very noticeble. 5d3 can write 100 MB/s on CF card so can do 1080p.

One of the best recent tools is MLVFS - magic lantern video file system - it is on mac and on pc. Working with raw is just a pleasure now. For small projects one can work directly from CF card. Open CF card folder, select all mlv files, right click > quick mount (its quickly creates "virtual" filders instead of mlv files with all the cndg and wav files inside, 128gb takes 20-30 seconds). Open resolve, find the right folder and thats it - you have your clips ready. You can edit, render, color correct, you have sound, easy The same way you can import to premiere CC, edit natively or expoty xml for resolve. Current 2015 workflow doesnt require any transcoding at all. For fast preview on set i use mlrawviewer - little, useful app which works nice even on weak laptop - it directly plays mlv files with sound (you can even add luts, set WB, exposure etc). It is also possible to set in/out points and render prores 444 directly. There is some new similar app under developing (Thanks AWPStar) which will have almost full control on settings and many codecs to choose from. Magic Lantern raw now in 2015 is really fully usable, very stable great addon. Fast CF cards and HDDs are getting cheaper so it is not an issue anymore. The only things 5d3 is missing now is 4k and higher frame rates than 30fps (maximum frame rate with raw is 67 fps - but with reduced resolution). Every other features like peaking, zebras, great battery life (with raw recording batteries lasts longer than with h264 - no encoding processors are used) 3x cropped 1080p recording and many more are there and are fully functional. It will be very hard to someone to justify replacing full frame 14 bit raw 1080p camera for a 4k camera with highly compressed 8 bit codec. I would love the possibility of shooting in 4k but 4k raw is now in complettely different price range (media, power solutions, computer hardware etc). When you get used to raw workflow, especially now when it is really fast and easy - it would be very hard to step back.

Very good summary indeed, i would add also: The 5D has up to 38 fps raw at unstretched 1080p (recorded time is limited to couple of seconds though due to buffer and card speed) The 5D has up to 65 fps raw 1920x672 (nicely stretches to 1080p but also limited time) and gives better quality than 1080p h264 30 or 24/25p The 5D has 48 fps raw at 1920x508 (like above but with 2,35:1 aspect ratio) - can record almost continously Very nice new tools (much improved in last months) for on site checking and one click processing raw like MLVrawviewer (mlv to prores). The 5D has DUAL ISO raw recording option (stills and video, normal and crop), can record for example iso 100 (for highlights) and iso 1600 (for shadows) in the same time, there are some image issues like aliasing in over/under exposed areas (but no motion ghosting) but when needed it can give 14 stops of DR The 5D has HDR video (h264 and raw) - when shooting in 48 or 50 fps it alternates ISO values between frames, no aliasing but motion artifacts so mostly for static shots The 5D has auto ETTR (very useful for setting exposure fast) - it sets exposure to the right in one button click All of the features above are from Magic Lantern of course, not from canon.

I recorded so much footage back then that it was simply too much for a one film. Thats why I decided to make one more video. Enjoy :)

Sorry for this little offtop. @jasonmillard81 look at the ML forum: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0 Generally speaking guys from ML discovered how to make "on the fly" mlv to dng conversion via virtual file system. It is a great idea and developing is going fast, it is already working with some small issues but it is only a matter of time to iron this out. With this "tool" processing ml raw video will not be much more complicated than say ..."processing" slog2 from a7s.

There is new breakthrough in ML raw postprocessing, now one can simply use mlv files directly in resolve and possibly in other NLE aps. Another time and HDD space comsuming step has been removed (unpacking dng files out of mlv's). Now everything you have to do is select all mlvs on a card, right click and "mount" them in special little app (takes seconds) and from this moment MLVs appears as folders full of DNGs. Outputting beautiful 10bit DNxHD444 or prores has never been simpler :)

Hi, I shot this video in Dolomites, Italy, in Marmolada mountain area during 8 days vacations. Filmed on a Canon 5D Mark III entirely in Magic Lantern raw format (mlv) 1920x1080. I used Komputerbay 64GB 1000x and Sandisk extreme pro 32GB memory cards. Nexto DI ND2730 500GB photo storage device was super helpful with archiving those lots amount of data in the field. Most of the shots were made with canon 16-35mm f2.8 L II but canon 100mm f2.8 L Macro was also used. Smooth shots were made with Glidecam HD2000. Regarding Magic Lantern - i had absolutely no problem with it in the field. It worked brilliantly, had some few minor crashes but nothing to worry about. Huge amount of data is no problem when you have a device like nextodi or similar with you. Copying 64GB card takes about 8-10 minutes so if you have two cards (i had 64 and 32GB) you can shoot almost continuosly. Please tell me what you think.