ade towell

make the screen flippable and cut the 30 minute limit too please

fuji xt3 if you can stretch that far. oh sorry didn't read the whole thread if you absolutely need IBIS then one of the Panasonics. Otherwise xt3 with I.S. lens is hard to beat

The terrible RS is very disappointing, it made the Eos-r useless for my needs and was hoping the 1DX3 tech might make it's way to an Rf mirrorless. Not interested anymore

am curious why you need full frame - (and I think there is a bit of a crop anyway, 1.3ish?)

yes is full frame 60p 4k worth that much to you, particularly when you don't get the Af and have to use a big lump of a camera with no evf, flip screen, internal nd, xlr audio, waveform etc

I wonder how many of these will be bought purely for video. I would hate to have to go back to using a dslr for video

Well played Canon they finally seem to be awaking from their slumber. Not interested in this specific camera as it's far too big and unwieldly for my style of handheld video, with no evf or flippable screen - but a smaller more agile Rf version with similar specs would possibly convince me to come back from Fuji

Some lovely stuff here from Filippo Chiesa

Hey the 2 unicorns of the mirrorless camera world - Sony A7s3 and now Nikon Z6 with raw both finally revealed in the same week. Must be nearly xmas... Looking forward to seeing the full potential of the Z6 now, with prices they're going for, if you don't mind bolting on the Ninja this could be a great combination

Good thorough review - interesting to see it copes considerably better than the Canon c500mk2 with dynamic range when pushing over and under exposure using internal Sony XAVC and Canon's XFAVC respectively. Wonder how the internal raw on the Canon compares? Also the AF on the Sony seemed to kick in and track a lot earlier than on the Canon. Be good to see some more thorough testing between these 2 cameras

That's great news regarding the AF, hopefully it will be at least as good as it was on the video side before they ballsed it up in firmware 3

That's interesting, the 2 people I know with C200s both have said its face tracking AF is not to be trusted on a professional shoot and they use object tracking instead. They were both disappointed the C200 AF didn't work as well as it did on the 1dxmk2 and 5d4. Hopefully the EOS-r is as good as the dslr's

me too - this and the AF issues are all that make the XT3 the perfect hybrid for me (oh yeah IBIS would also be nice in the next iteration...)

Downloaded the original ProRes files available on this Vimeo link - wow the colour straight out of camera, detail from downsampling 6k to 4k, and amazingly clean lowlight at 12800 iso - this camera looks much closer to Venice than it does FS7. Really beautiful footage, unless you need raw this camera is going to be hard to beat

Yes thought I read you were thinking of 'upgrading' to an Eos-r. Sounds like a downgrade to me, the Xt3 is a special little camera, punches way above its weight

Yes I think this camera will do well, it seems to be compared with the c500mk2, but if you don't need raw and 6k (not many people do) the fx9 is a much cheaper proposition with great colour and AF, vari nd, a loupe, new lenses with proper manual and AF functions coming soon, e-mount which can handle pretty much any lens, and will most likely match perfectly with the fs7 which dominates much of the mid range sector. I think it will sell well. As will the c500mk2 for those who need raw.

The image does look nice but if you want to record raw this camera is a bit of a mess - you need the XDCA-FX9 extension unit which is $2500 plus a recorder. Electronic vari nd is great but if you are willing to pay the extra, the c500 MK2 looks a better thought out camera. The new e-mount lens FE C 16-35mm T3.1 G could be interesting though as it looks like it has both proper manual control (no focus by wire) and servo and also AF - best of both worlds https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/09/13/sony-16-35mm-t3-1-e-mount-servo-lens/

$10,998 so a lot less than the C500 mk2 but yes no internal RAW

From what I have read the face tracking is not very good on the C200, especially in comparison with the 1dx. Object tracking is more reliable on the C200 but is a bit cumbersome as you have to program a button, press it and then select a target. You can't just touch the face on the screen and it tracks like on the 1dx

Am not in the market for it but my work possibly are - UK price here is £17k whilst it's $16k in the U.S. (which comes to less than £13k with the current exchange rate) I know we have to pay more here but not quite sure why they've hiked the C500 up so much - for comparison the UK price of the C200 is £5.8k, in the US it's $6.5k

The Oktava is great budget mic so long as you don't move it around, very sensitive for handling noise - would be ok for interviews, the Rycote babyball gag helps. The at4053b is a lovely sounding mic and more forgiving when on a boom. I also have the ntg3 which as Sage says is best outdoors but surprisingly good indoors if the space isn't too reverby

I'm sure Geoff meant XT3

Bravo. That looks wonderful, want to see more...

Canon C500 Mark II Body 3794C007 $15,999 Canon LM-V2 LCD Monitor 3941C001 $749 Canon LA-V2 LCD Attachment Unit 3942C001 $249 Canon EVF-V50 Viewfinder 3938C001 $699 Canon Canon EU-V1 Expansion Unit 1 3939C001 $499 Canon EU-V2 Expansion Unit 2 3940C001 $1,599 Canon PM-V1 PL Mount Kit 3936C001 $1,599 Canon CM-V1 EF Cinema Lock Mount Kit 3937C001 $2,199 The EF locking mount is quite expensive

it's small enough for solo operator seems silly to make it so tricky - although audio has always seemed like an after thought with the Canon cinema cameras - having it on top of the handle on my C100 has been a pain in the arse