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From the initial previews it looks like the A6300's autofocus is very much improved, so will probably be better than the A7SII / A7RII. Dunno if that matters for your type of work. If you're adapting Canon lenses then you probably aren't going to be using autofocus while recording I'm guessing, since it's very slow even on the Metabones IV from what I've seen and is CDAF-only. Speaking of CDAF, isn't the A7SII CDAF-only to begin with?

Imaging Resource A6300 first impressions: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2016/03/04/sony-a6300-first-impressions-from-miami-sunny-skies-ahead Short A6300 daytime video sample:

Saw this posted on Sonyalpharumors.. newsshooter.com's video with the A7SII and the new 24-70 2.8 & 85 1.4 G-Master lenses. Sorry if this is a bit off-topic since it's shot on the A7SII and not the A7RII, but I thought the color might be of interest.

Man the image from that Ursa 4.6k in the Spooks video is beautiful. At least I can look forward to a future when that kind of quality will be in an A7-size form-factor.

As a Sony A7R2 (and previously A6000) owner I agree with the common sentiment here that Sony's colors aren't as good out of the box as Canon (and the D750, from what I've seen of it). Brandon Li does get great color in his videos shot on Sony cameras. I wonder how much of it has to do with the lenses he uses. Lens choice affects color and contrast a great deal of course. I thought Balinese had great color (Sony A7S with Canon 24-105 w/Metabones EF-E adapter; Rokinon 14mm; Rokinon 24mm; Nikon AIS 50mm f/1.4. according to his Vimeo comments) I notice the colors on my Sony / Zeiss 24mm 1.8 look much more Canon L-like than on my other non-Zeiss Sony lenses. Here's a framegrab straight from camera with that lens, 1080p from the A6000 (pre-XAVCS update). Dynamic range doesn't look great to me but I think the colors are pretty decent.. not quite what I used to get with L lenses on my old Canon 5D but not bad. Definitely better than I get with my Sony 10-18mm F/4 or the Sony 50mm 1.8 OSS.

Those highlights on underwater lights (@ 1:31) do look way better on the G7, but the Sony also looks brighter overall (check out the shadowed palm trees next to the tables). Maybe exposure was slightly different?

Autofocus looks great; wish he had ND filters so we could see how it performed with a shallower DOF. Is that some rolling shutter jello at 0:08?

Some good news for us E-Mount owners, DPReview's Rishi Sanyal says (in a comment!) that the new Sigma MC-11 adapter allows Sigma lenses to function natively on the A7R2 in terms of auto-focus, including phase-detect AF in video! http://***URL removed***/news/7911235445/cp-2016-sony-stand-report-and-g-master-action?comment=7786652921 "Given our recent finding that Sigma's new adapter can confer full AF functionality to a Sigma lens attached to an a7R II, including continuous Eye AF, Lock-on AF, and phase-detect AF in video, I'm having a hard time understanding why Sony can't do it with their own lenses on their own adapter on their own camera!" Hopefully this will be true of all the E-Mount cameras it supports (which currently includes the A6000, so the A6300 seems likely). Here's the current lens compatbility list for launch. According to a video they released updates will be coming and the adapter has a USB port for firmware updates. I'm hoping they add some more of their APS-C lenses.. I'd love to use the Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS HSM on the A6300. Video explaining in layman's terms how it works (sounds like instead of converting E-mount signals to EF / SA-mount it overrides the firmware on the lens to use E-Mount directly. "Now the lens is no longer using its original firmware. Instead it uses the MC-11's control application."

Yeah I sure wish there were some more crop e-mount lenses available, especially fast zooms. I was briefly excited by the announcement of the Sigma MC-11 adapter, thinking I might be able to use it with some of Sigma's quality APS-C lenses like the 17-50 2.8, but alas like the Metabones the MC-11 it does not support AF-C, and I can't live without autofocus for video. Also agree with mike_tee_vee above that Sony needs to do touch-screen focusing. I'm wondering if they might be holding off just to give themselves a significant feature to add to the next a7 camera.

I've re-listened to it a few times now.. it's really quite catchy. I used to listen to a ton of 80s synth-pop and when I first heard it I thought was it was some song I somehow missed or couldn't recognize because your cover sounded different enough from the original. But in fact it was an original! Congrats, you really did capture the 80s, and especially that melancholy touch you mentioned. The production quality of the tune is also excellent.. sounds very professionally mixed. My only suggestion would be to shoot a real music video that's less of a of a home studio performance. Seems like it could be fun trying to re-interpret the 80s music video with modern gear.

Did you write and perform the song too? If so, really impressive! The music is great. Shooting was cool too, especially the snow shots.

I also wouldn't bother with 2666MHz RAM, the speed difference from 2400MHz is minimal. I went for the cheapest 2400 I could find (G-Skill).

See this thread for more info on 4K h264 editing in Premiere Pro. Apparently it's much faster in FCP. To get lag-free editing check out Don's thread linked above for info on which format to transcode to.

I have this CPU and Premiere Pro definitely uses all 6 cores. However if you're editing 4K h264 material don't expect blazing speeds. See this thread for more info: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/18802-fast-4k-editing-on-osx-and-windows-10/

Wow, I hope you let Sony know that was a deal-breaker for you. I also wish more people were complaining about this, it's been driving me nuts since I got the camera.

The love for the 5D RAW video image quality seems to underscore what the Imaging Science Foundation has been saying for years - resolution matters far less than other aspects in the overall picture quality: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/isf-contrast-still-the-most-important-aspect-for-picture-quality Their top 4 attributes: 1) contrast ratio (dynamic range), 2) color saturation, 3) color accuracy, 4) resolution. I'd easily give up the 4K resolution of my A7R2 if I could get 1080p raw with the quality of the 5DmkII / III. I don't know if I would give up the size, portability, and ease of use features like autofocus of the a7 system for it though. Just give us some tech from 2008 in our new cameras already..

It seems like we have enough data points of people with high-spec PCs and high-spec Macs all finding Premiere Pro's 4K h264 performance poor (without rendering the timeline - agree that solves these issues). Sigh. Doubting this is something that will be fixed soon if ever. Maybe Adobe can hire some of those FCP programmers and rewrite their engine.

Andrew could you tell us what lenses you used for your 5DmkII vs. FS5 comparison?

Thanks for the info. So in terms of storage costs, two 128GB 1000x CF cards at around $150 each on ebay right now would be $300 and the Nextodi hard drive backup device (1TB included) is ~$500, so you're looking at around $800 for some entry level in-the-field storage (a bit more if you want to go up to 2TB i guess). The overall kit is still a bargain with the 5D mkII for the quality you get but it's a bit of a bummer investing all that into storage that may not outlive the CF-based camera system. I suppose if we ever get RAW video on some more consumer cameras then we may start needing a mobile HD backup storage solution. It is truly stunning that it's been years now and the RAW quality made possible my ML still hasn't been delivered by any major manufacturer on a consumer camera. So weird to see such a big technological advance get frozen in time like this..

That RAW image is truly stunning. I have an A7R2 and I'm jealous. I'm really curious what the RAW workflow is these days. Have any tools or processing power made it faster? And what about the cost / workflow of shooting on those 1000x CF cards? Do you still need to carry around a laptop with an HD to offload your CF cards to every hour or so of shooting?

I recently upgraded my PC for 4K editing with Premiere Pro CC 2015 and was dismayed to find that although it's usable, it's not what I would call "fast" or responsive. I have an i7 5820K overclocked to 4Ghz, GTX970 graphics card, Samsung SSD, 16GB of DDR4 RAM (more coming, had to send back some bad RAM sticks, although the project I'm editing is very small and doesn't even use 5GB). I have to keep the playback window at 1/4 resolution to avoid dropping frames and the lag when positioning the play head at a new location and pressing play is pretty long (about 2/3rds of a second before the clip starts playing). Scrubbing is extremely choppy.. probably around 5-8fps if the timeline hasn't been rendered. For more info check out Don Kotlos's thread "A story about 4K XAVC-S, Premiere and transcoding" where he tries various transcoding options to speed up editing in Premiere. Some of the thoughts there were that FCP's use of Intel's Quick Sync processor may indeed be playing a big role in its speed. Whatever the solution, it's an abysmal state of affairs that the flagship editing app on the PC is so far behind the flagship app on the Mac in performance.

andrgl, are you paying for your YouTube account? Paid accounts get higher bitrates / more bandwidth which will obviously look a lot better.

That's a super helpful thread Don, thanks for putting all that together. It doesn't surprise me that you weren't able to get smooth playback with such a high-end system when applying a bunch of post-processing (Lumetri color / LUT, "various other adjustments" and sharpening). I imagine playback is super smooth with all of these turned off? The amount of GPU math being done on every 8 megapixel frame must be pretty significant. GPU operations across frames that large have got to take a while. I work in video games doing post-process passes like anti-aliasing on a 1080p frame is already a big GPU hit.

Funny, I'm building a 4K editing PC right now and those are the exact same components I picked. I don't have it all bought / built yet but I think you should be pretty happy with the performance. All the reviews I read said 6 cores really helped in apps like Premiere so I went with the 5820K (got it at Frys with one of their recent promo code deals for $276 + tax). Currently shopping for the cheapest X99 board and DDR4 RAM and planning to overclock the CPU to ~4GHz. Went with the Noctua DH-14 CPU cooler since I want to keep it quiet, but if noise isn't a big issue you might want to go water-cooled.

I'm looking for a zoom with a decent range and good quality for general walkaround / travel video on the A7R2 in 4K. I'm fine with shooting APS-C (mostly better quality / ISO anyways on the A7R2 except for the rolling shutter). Two lenses I'm considering are (links to DXOMark reviews which were just posted recently): Zeiss 16-70 F4 OSS Sony 18-105 F4 OSS Anyone here have any experience shooting with either of these on the A7R2? Think they have enough resolution for 4K? It's a bit troubling that DXOMark rates the 16-70 as only having 8 perceptual megapixels of sharpness and the 18-105 as 9 P-Mpix. Overall they don't seem like stellar lenses but the zoom ranges, weight, OSS, and native auto-focusing performance are all big plusses. The 18-105 also has a powerzoom which could be fun to play with for some shots. Any other lenses in this range that people would recommend for this purpose? Or wait for the rumored f/2.8 zooms Sony is supposedly working on for FE-mount? Thanks for any help!