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Leica ?

I noticed that you missed that the Canon EOS R is #11 on that list and the Nikon Z6 is #18. This is Amazon's data... not mine. I'm just a messenger.

Word on the grapevine is that the Panasonic full frame cameras are a total flop sales wise. This rumor is also supported by taking a quick peek at Amazon's full frame mirrorless cameras sales rankings. The Panasonic S1 and R are nowhere to be seen on the top 100 list. Expect price drops... but even then, it's a big gamble that Panasonic took by releasing these bodies without PDAF. For most hybrid shooters reliable AF is a "must have" option.

I predict that the 360 camera will eventually revolutionize the way how video is shot. It will replace all of these action and stabilized cameras. Picture an interview scene where you only need one camera that sits between the interviewer and subject. I think once they get good enough it’s going to be huge.

For me it would have to really be special. If neither one blows me away, I’m not investing the $20k or so to enter into the system. I just do this stuff for fun. Rolling shutter might be less than ideal... but maybe not as bad as we think.

Most likely... plus lenses.

The Osmo Action is a pass for me also. I just can't get behind that image quality. The stabilization tech is promising though.

I doubt you'll see it made in China, they are currently hand made in Sweden iirc. But DJI does have extensive experience with stabilization, so who knows what we will see? It will be interesting in any case. It will likely be going head to head against the Fuji.

You do know that Hasselblad is owned by DJI?

@JrtehI parted with the Z6 for the Canon EOS R.

With the pending announcement of the new Fuji GFX100 only a week and change away, it looks like we now have a detailed sensor spec sheet. So what are your thoughts on this new model? Also, how do you think it will compare to the upcoming Hasselblad? I’m considering one of these bodies... mainly for stills with some video.

There's a lot to like about the Panasonic S1. Still it's a hard sell. I feel like we are on the threshold of some major announcements from Canon and Sony, with new sensors and bodies likely coming before years end.

To my eyes iq is better than the GoPro. That said, I'm not sure I would buy one. I already have the Osmo Pocket. Sure, smaller sensor may mean less data, but that said and done it's still writing 100 Mb/s in 4k @60 fps and a larger body means more room for computing hardware.

So steady, this is truly the future of image stabilization. Forget IBIS, if this tech can be incorporated into cameras of this size, there is no reason it cannot be added to much larger dedicated cameras. Also, in the video he uses De-Warp. I've never heard of this before, but that should be automatically applied in any camera. Honestly, none of the footage really seemed to suffer from warping, so I'm not sure why he chose to use it on the one clip... perhaps just to show he could?

Here it is... first full review:

Seriously, did you look at the hexagonal bokeh of this lens? How about edge sharpness, which doesn’t actually get anywhere near sharp until stopped down to F5.6? Flare resistance? Or should I say lack of? Longitudinal CA is also an issue with this lens... and is not so easy to correct in post. I think all this example proves is that the Chinese lens offers an impressive sounding spec sheet (50mm F 0.95) but falls short on optical performance. So hence the lower price point. Compare this to the ZEISS Loxia 50mm f/2, which is fully weather sealed, usable F2, electronics for Exif data to camera, user de-clickable with a 3 year warranty (vs 1 year ) for only $949 brand new, and I would say only a fool would opt for the Chinese lens. But that’s just my take.

@Andrew Reid there you go getting all political. I’ll address that later. As for quality goods being made in China, I pointed out at least two examples... Aputure and IPhone. I could add DJI and maybe a few more. But that doesn’t change the fact that QC leaves much room for improvement in China. In this post my initial question was one of the overall quality of goods. I can’t think of any Chinese original lenses that rival Zeiss or Leica. But yet some here seem to take this loyalty to China as a cause. Why? Did they forget that The Peoples Republic of China is a communist state, not a democracy? Did they overlook the overwhelming reports of human rights abuses? Do they believe this is all made up? Perhaps they do not realize that all advancements made by outside companies are mandated to be shared with the Chinese military first? Or that when it comes to IP in China, it’s not merely a case of single employee stealing technology, but in fact the government has entire departments devoted to stealing IP from outside companies. The West rewarded The People’s Republic of China with lucrative trade deals in hopes they would become a democracy (the opposite of what was successfully done with the USSR)... Update... it didn’t work. The People’s Republic of China is still communist. Indeed one of the reasons manufacturing is so cheap in China is because they are perfectly ok with exposing the population and workforce to hazardous chemicals and pollutants. Go China... yeah!

The Digital Bolex regularly fetches considerable more than it's new price.

Thailand China? Wait, what? X-T3 is a flagship camera? Ya think? Got rid of my Panasonics awhile ago, so I can't check. I do recall seeing made in Japan... but perhaps that was the lenses. Not that those are flagships at this point. Nonetheless, I'm pretty certain the S1 is also made in China. So perhaps Panasonic is the exception. That said I had no issues with my Panasonics... so they would be one of the hits... X-T3 more of a miss in my experience.

Your example make no sense. I merely ask which statement more closely reflects the subject’s view. And btw... you still haven’t answered. So like I said, there are some higher quality exceptions... but lots of crap also. iPhone is made in China... Aputure makes great lights... and I pointed out that high quality products can be made anywhere... but Chinese quality is often hit or miss.

Easy, I pick option two. Yes it’s a trap. A trap to get an honest opinion without the politically correct nonsense. If you genuinely believe that quality wise and optically Chinese lenses and cameras are better than their Japanese counterparts... regardless of price, then just vote option “B”. It’s that simple. Now here’s the difference between you and I... trap or not, I voted in your example. I’m a free thinker with independent thought, so I will give my opinion without fear. I really wish more here would grow a spine.

I might be way off mark, but where I live no one is impressed when you explain that you drive an Hyundai. For some reason Porsche carries more prestige.

I too recall "Made In Japan" being regarded as a joke in the western world. Here is what Japan did to turn around the perceived quality of their products. It's something that has yet to happen on any large scale in China. I'm sorry if historical facts are considered racist... How many here would choose to drop the same money... for the same specs, on "say a Chinese Leica competitor" (assuming one was available)? I can't imagine many would opt for a Chinese Arri equivalent... if the cost and specs were identical? Why then, to choose the Chinese option, do we require a better price? I'm guessing it's because there is an assumption that the quality will not be as good... therefore a tradeoff is made of a better spec sheet. Is this "racist"? Was it "racist" when the same was true of "Made In Japan" ? How did the Japanese solve this problem? Sensitivity training? I'm just a messenger.

Oh the race card... how original. But yet you didn’t answer the question. I’ll take that as another vote for “A”. When it comes to optics I do prefer Japanese to Chinese and German to Japanese. There is no Chinese car I would buy today. Understand, I make no claim that high quality products cannot be produced in China, but more often than not, it’s cheaply made alternatives that come out of China. NONE of the flagship cameras from Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic or Fuji are produced in China. None of their Premiums lenses are produced in China. As I usually only buy premium products, I naturally end up with Japanese or German produced items for the most part. If this comes off as “racist”... seek therapy.