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I told them to build with a XC15 layout with a anamorphic zoom, ProRes, 10 bit built in, NDs. Pictures that a “cinema “ camera with the one feature that is synonymous with cinema... anamorphic. I would buy one... just don’t make it feel like plasticky crap.

I'm not convinced on what I will be shooting. I have a Canon Pixma Pro 10 which I will use for smaller prints. I send out larger prints. I also plan to get an Epson V850 Pro Scanner. Yes, the B&W film development process looks pretty straight forward. So I do intend to shoot B&W initially.

Overall I like it. Very organic. It has a soul. I would be curious to see this in a lite setting.

Honestly I was planning to develop the film myself, then scan the negatives. For me it’s part of the experience. I looked over several diy videos and it’s something I feel confident in doing. I’m pretty comfortable with manual exposure, as it’s the only way I shoot. I plan to use a light meter app as I don’t want to carry more gear. I think it should get me close enough. I believe there’s something to be said for starting with a cheap but good manual camera. Then if I find I’m hooked I can always buy whatever I want. What are everyone’s thoughts on film size? 35mm Vs 645 Vs 6x6 Vs 67 Vs 69 Vs Panoramic? What makes the most sense? I’m thinking 67. But I’m curious what everyone’s preference is?

I'm not so sure that there is no point to scanning in digital. Epson make some fairly ok film scanners. I see quite a lot of video's online where the images are scanned and they look great. I think the real draw to film for me is the idea that you focus more on the creative process. Granted, you can disable everything and go full manual... which is largely how I shoot, save for focus. I like the more modern film look. 70s, 80s through current... wait... I take that back. I like the "clean film" look. I'm not seeking to add artifacts to my images. I want a clean look, but with the organic soul that film has. I believe digital is a bit sterile. Looking back at some stills I took with my Fuji X-T3s; Fuji did a good job with their film emulations, but fall short of the genuine article. And frustratingly, the details are hard to pin down. Film seems quite forgiving of overexposure. Whereas underexposure is far less so. Digital the the exact opposite; performing quite well when underexposed, but clipping the highlights with far less resistance than film. Granted you can always do a long exposure with film, provided your subject is not moving about.... unless that's the look you are going for. It's entirely possible that I am simply misguided. It's not beyond reason that any interest in shooting with film is merely the result of some delusion. But nonetheless I'm liking the idea ? Leica MA Hasselblad Xpan Hasselblad 500cm

So is the Arri a "bad camera" now?

I'm feeling the manual vibe. It's more involving. Though it's crazy to think that those former best of breed cameras are so cheap to buy these days. I really like the XPan, though they fetch Leica money.

I think there are some real gems out there. The Mamiya is an interesting camera. But is it something one could reasonably carry?

As of late I find myself a bit intrigued by the art of film photography. I've never really shot film. All my cameras have been digital. So instant gratification. But there is something about film... something hard to define. Film slows you down... it makes you think about composition. You don't have an endless amount of shots like in the digital domain. Every shot has to count. Every shot has to be thoughtfully taken. I believe these habits might serve well when shooting video also. I'm considering a number of bodies. I'm not committed to anything yet. But the Hasselblad 500 (MF) series looks interesting... as does the XPan (panoramic). I'm also kicking around the idea of a Leica MA. What are your thoughts? Have any of you considered going old school and shooting film?

Poor AF is really Panasonic's main roadblock to greatness. Virtually everyone else has at least somewhat usable AF at this point. Panasonic has no excuses left.

The overhead in post is certainly much better with a 1080p workflow. I would argue the improved post overhead is a much greater difference that any perceptible difference in image quality. Keep in mind, if the target audience is YouTube, a large percentage of mobile devices... including all iOS device, do not support resolutions beyond 1080p.

It’s a tough one, I think 1080 upscaled to 4K can look pretty dam good.

Then that would seem to suggest these are not very good cameras.... wouldn't it? I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that these are quick test with a non-production ready unit. I do hope these cameras are amazing. For now though it's more something I will just keep an eye on and see how it develops.

Where did you hear this? There seem to be zero rumors out regarding this.

I'd be up for a S35 or Full frame Global shutter variant... If priced well. That would make these cameras into a micro Sony F55.

It's an intriguing idea, but will it vignette?

Yes but most of the video centric versions ditch IBIS.. GH5S(No IBIS) S1H(No IBIS) etc... Certainly no professional cinema cameras have IBIS. For me I see IBIS as great for stills... horrible for video; it can sometimes warp the image and ruin the shot. This is understandable as the sensor is also correcting for yaw and pitch. If IBIS only corrected for X Y axises. I believe this would not be such a problem. I feel ultimately, EIS, as seen on the Osmo Action and GoPro... but with better quality, will be the future for cinema. And with large sensors like this, it would be very feasible.

Wow, this is awesome. I was a bit on the fence after seeing the massive rolling shutter of the GFX 100. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

I think many would agree that I am perhaps as harsh a critic as one would want... that said, I see nothing wrong with the imagery from the S1H. I think it looks quite filmic / organic. I believe the DP probably chose the softer lenses as a way to take off some of the detail that the 6k sensor produces. Panasonic should make available some footage with their own L-Mount lenses. That is unless they expect everyone to run out and pick up a set of Atlas Primes? I'll hold off from criticizing this new camera too much. It's clear to me that it is not a finished product. And features may be added and some even removed, before we see the actual production ready unit. Keep in mind, no one has seen the actual working camera outside of Panasonic and the crew that made the demo video. The unit on display at Cinegear was not a working unit. I would hit the polls that were created and make sure to have your voice heard. Knowing what their audience wants will help out big time with the development, not only of this camera, but also products from the other manufacturers.

I’d bet that is due to the lenses. They shot this on Atlas anamorphic primes. Which imo are far from sharp. Indeed, Atlas states they were trying to achieve a vintage aesthetic with these lenses.

As large as the EVF is, it would be awesome if it was removable and a rotating tilt option could be added... like on the Fuji medium format cameras.

@Andrew Reidperhaps we can submit both polls? There is good data in both.

I did consider color science, but there seems to be some debate as to if color science is real (which I'm convinced it is). Some cameras definitely appear to have mojo. The real reason that color science was omitted, was because it's so hard to pin down. While I'm convinced all the manufacturers believe it's important, that doesn't mean they will get it right... even if we all selected it as our single must have feature. What Fuji is doing with their film emulations is pretty cool.. I do wish they could add film grain to video also. The fact that DR is rating so strong, means that there is room for improvement on virtually all the current mirrorless cameras. I'm certain those enhancements will convert to sales.

It’s the AF system that’s great. Natural transitions with no micro hunting. I don’t think anyone else has this. Sony’s may be faster, but not better because of the micro-hunting. Who knows? Perhaps Panasonic will nail down AF in this camera? Really for me it’s all this body is missing. I don’t really care if it’s weather-sealed or if it has built in NDs. The image quality was never in question, so long as it as good or better than the other S-series cameras.