Ty Harper

Great analysis of the power saving mode from Points In Focus (has done some great tests/commentary of the R5/R5c over the last couple years - def worth checking out!). He got a 40% increase in battery life in 4K 60p - which tracks with the numbers I'm getting at 4K 24p XF-AVC.

Well I was eyeing a AtomX Connect at a local store (they don't make them anymore) but your experience is the nail in the coffin for me. Well pivot to Tentacle from here on in!

I can confirm that with a fully charged single oem LP-E6NH battery I got a little over 80 minutes at 4K 422 10bit 24p XF-AVC (Clog3). Before the update I was getting a little over 60 mins fully charged. Also getting double that with the grip. Words can't express how f*ckin' happy I am right now thanks to this one practical update - and I haven't even started to play around with the other stuff!

https://asia.canon/en/support/EOS R5 C/model Firmware Version 1.0.4.1 incorporates the following enhancements: 1. The following features are enabled when the following lenses are attached: CN-E14-35mm T1.7 L S, CN-E20-50mm T2.4 L F, CN-E45-135mm T2.4 L F, CN8x15 IAS S/E1,: - Displaying metadata, such as the model name and the focal distance of the lens attached. - Displaying T number. - Support for Peripheral Illumination Correction and Chromatic Lens Aberration Correction. - Support for Dual Pixel CMOS AF autofocus(CN8x15 IAS S/E1 only) - Support for [Dual Pixel Focus Guide]. 2. The following features are enabled when the following lenses are attached: RF-S18-45mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM, RF-S18-150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM: - Adds a menu to switch lens functions. (Focus Ring, Control Ring, Lens Optical Image Stabilization) 3. Adds EF lenses compatible with EF-EOS R 0.71x Mount Adapter. CN-E14mm T3.1 L F CN-E20mm T1.5 L F CN-E24mm T1.5 L F CN-E35mm T1.5 L F CN-E50mm T1.3 L F CN-E85mm T1.3 L F CN-E135mm T2.2 L F EF14mm f/2.8L II USM EF24mm f/1.4L II USM EF35mm f/1.4L II USM EF50mm f/1.2L USM EF85mm f/1.2L II USM EF135mm f/2L　USM 4. Enables left/right switching with one touch when using Magnify. (When recording 8K RAW with VR lens attached.) 5. Enables magnify during 8K MP4 recording. (Not available when HDMI 4K is output.) 6. Improves switching time between Video/Photo mode. 7. Adds Power Saving Mode. 8. Enhances Clear Scan resolution. 9. Adds Digital-Teleconverter function. (1.5x /2x /2.5x /3x) 10. Enables to change WFM size. 11. Enables to change Vector scope gain by touch. 12. Enables to change WFM/Vector scope opacity. 13. Improves AF performance. - Enables tracking frame to change variably depending on subject. - Enables to detect heads facing sideways or backwards, or in situations such as when wearing a helmet. - Enables to select Face via control ring/dial. 14. Adds [Subject Selection] assignable function via control ring/dial. 15. Adds [Canon 709 / BT.709] to the Gamma/Color Space in Custom Picture setting. 16. Adds [CMT 709] in Proxy Rec Color Conversion. 17. Adds [CMT 709] in View Assist. 18. Adds [G Gain] in White Balance in Custom Picture settings. 19. Adds support for 4CH display in audio meter. Caution: - Please use an SD/SDHC/SDXC memory card that is 512MB or greater to perform the firmware update. - Firmware version 1.0.4.1 is for updating EOS R5 C cameras running firmware version 1.0.0.1 - 1.0.3.1. If your camera's firmware is already version 1.0.4.1, it is not necessary to update the firmware. Once the camera is updated to the latest version, it cannot be restored to a previous version. - Please refrain from loading menu settings generated using the most recent firmware version to a product running an old firmware version, as doing so may affect camera operations. - Firmware update must be performed in VIDEO mode. Preparations for a firmware update: - After the firmware update has been performed, the camera's menu settings will be reset. It is recommended that, prior to starting update operations, users save their menu settings as settings data to an SD card, separate from the one that will be used to carry out the update. This saved data can be loaded into the camera and the settings can be changed after the update has been completed. For further information on this, please refer to the section in the unit's Instruction Manual titled "Saving and Loading Camera Settings." - The downloaded folder contains the firmware (file name: VSD8.FIM / file size: 90,203,000 byte), and instructions on the firmware update procedures (a PDF file in five languages: Japanese, English, French, Spanish and Simplified Chinese). Prior to starting the firmware update operations, please be sure to carefully review and confirm your understanding of these instructions. Regarding the Software Included in this Firmware: The software included in this firmware is comprised of software modules developed by both Canon and third parties. Display of License Information of Free Software Modules Included in this Firmware: The license information required to be displayed for the free software modules included with this firmware is saved in the download file. To check the free software module licenses, please refer to the "EOS R5C OSS info.pdf". The following items are required to perform this firmware update: 1. Camera Body EOS R5 C 2. A computer (OS requirements: macOS 13, macOS 12, macOS 11, 10.15 - 10.14) 3. SD/SDHC/SDXC memory card with a capacity of 512MB or more (commercially available) 4. An SD card reader/writer (commercially available) or an SD card slot built into the computer 5. A fully charged battery pack for the camera, or a dedicated AC adapter kit (optional) 6. The firmware (the downloaded file)

The latest R5C firmware update is now available via Canon Asia: https://asia.canon/en/support/EOS R5 C/model

Yep, it's exactly the reason I take my time with these purchases and ask lots of questions in this forum bcuz there's always a f*ckin catch, smh.... so thanks for your help! Seems like with just one Tentacle or Ultrasync One unit I could theoretically sync my R5C, R5, Zoom F4, F3 and Ninja V+. Seems like the reason to go Ultrasync would be whether I see a future in their Bluetooth offerings which right now seem like a deadend, altho it would be sweet to have all my current gear sync up via their Connect/Ultrasync One/Blue - it's just way too expensive imo.

Actually my bad, the Tentacle can only connect to the Zoom F3 via XLR, so I guess there's that to comsdier too, hmm...

@BTM_Pix been researching this a bit more and seems like all I need is one Tentacle Sync E MKII to connect with the Zoom F4 (via TC in) then to the Zoom F3 (via bluetooth) and if necessary, the Ninja V (via the 3.5 line-in/LTC). I'd just need to reconnect them if I'm shooting for many hours to avoid audio drift. Or am I missing something?

Thanks for all insight! I've heard the Atomos Connect was quite buggy and underdeveloped upon release - have all the issues been addressed/fixed?

@IronFilm I have a Zoom F4, Zoom F3 and an Atomos Ninja V+. As a OMB hobbyist I don't usually need timecode but ran into a scenario recently where I was passing footage off to a friend and it would've been useful to have in that case. With all that in mind, what in your opinion would be the most prudent timecode system I should invest in? As always thanks for being so gracious with your knowledge over the years!

Just finished a passion project shoot where I went with an R5C and two 5D MKIIIs with ML. It had been a minute since I'd used the 5Ds, and for some reason, today was the shoot they decided to act up - and boy was it ever painful. Enough for me to get the message - so while I'll keep the 5Ds for ever and ever, I will prob never use them in a talking head interview capacity again. I'll always have a soft spot for the 5D/ML combo but in 2023, it seriously is not worth the hassle anymore, imo.

Canon R5C + 1DC along with a 5D MKIII w/ ML

Some tests showing a couple of the new power and AF updates. https://youtu.be/GrqhoyezO3I https://youtu.be/N833scPgTbQ

Here's a more comprehensive list of the R5C updates via Barry Griffin's IG: https://www.instagram.com/barry_canonproimaging/ EOS R5 C Firmware Update: Flex Zoom & CN8x15 IAS Lens support Mount Adapter EF-EOS R 0.71x support (same lens support as EOS C70) RF-S Lens support (RF-S 18-45mm, RF-S 18-150mm, RF-S 55-210mm) EOS R5 Catchup update (adds features from R5’s July, Nov & March FW release) Dual Fisheye: Enables Left/Right switching for VR recording Improved Video/Photo mode switching Adds Power Saving Mode Enhanced Clear Scan resolution (improves compatibility with LED walls). Adds Digital-Teleconverter function (adds 1.5x / 2x / 2.5x / 3x magnification) Option to change WFM & Vectors cope size and transparency Adds Canon 709 / BT.709 / CMT 709 (same as previous CEOS FW update) Adds ‘G Gain’ White Balance option in Custom Picture settings Adds subject selection via Lens Control Ring as an assignable function === Additionally Youtuber Yusuke Osawa just released an interview he did with a Canon rep about the announced FW updates. Might be worth checking out for some: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uquTpEvgCRg Thanks to user 'sugoroku' over at DVXuser for translating some key things not mentioned by NewsShooter or Barry Griffin. Specifically the following (take everything with a grain of salt obviously!): "1) Extended battery life. It only works with XF-AVC and not for RAW recording but should extend battery life up to 30% longer. 2) Two autofocus improvements. One being detecting human head more precisely especially when facing backwards and the other being focus tracking box changing its size and shape depending on the tracking subject. (around 15min. mark on the video link below)"

Oh man, these are pretty much all the FW updates I had hoped for! "Improvements to the EOS R5 C include support for the EF-EOS R 0.71x Mount Adapter, faster switching time between photo and video modes, a power saving mode, 2x magnification during 8K MP4 recording and a digital-teleconverter option, maximizing flexibility by providing a quick way to increase the telephoto capability of the lens used." https://www.newsshooter.com/2023/04/02/canon-cinema-eos-firmware-updates/?fbclid=IwAR3gafIkHuTszqC19mYmhmtG9l7H3i8U2hXb_tAwIx7NVgjY-QYm_vt9TgQ&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Ah right, my bad!

Oh wait, @ntblowz you're talking about losing lowlight advantage with just the regular adapter? But even then - I get how you'd lose focal length in S35 - but how would you lose lowlight advantage?

Most people I know using an EF-S lens are doing it with the R5C and the basic EF-RF adapter. Where I'm confused is where you say you'd lose lowlight advantage - bcuz the Canon oem speedbooster would actually give you an extra stop of light. But because it also widens your focal length, I'm assuming you'd have to shoot in either S35 or S16, but you'd still have gained an extra stop of light, no? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're getting at? My apologies if I am!

The 17-55mm or the 10-22mm APS-C lenses definitely work for video on the R5C and anecdotely I've heard the IQ hit is miniscule.

Just came back from a passion project shoot in South America. A mix of talking head interviews and capturing b-roll on most days. I had 6 batteries (4 oem and 2 off brand) - no grip - and the battery drain issue wasn't as big of a deal as I thought it would be. Of course we all have different workflows/needs etc.

New firmware update. Kinda disappointing tho, smh Firmware Version 1.0.3.1 incorporates the following enhancement: Improves the image quality of Canon Log 3 when shooting in XF-AVC or MP4 formats. https://www.usa.canon.com/support/canon-product-advisories/Firmware-Notice-EOS-R5-C-Firmware-Version-1-0-3-1?utm_source=canon_community&utm_medium=announcements_box

Aside from the obvious features the 5D MKIII lacks like DPAF and IBIS for example, there are none that I can think of when I decide to reach for it over say my R5C. The biggest issue was the large files and workflow which became a non-issue once I got a Mac Mini M1.

Going on 9 years as a ML Raw user and have never had an issue. Started with the 5D MK II and now I have two 5D MKIIIs.

Will also add that there's some discussion leading some owners to think the R5C might have an audio limiter built in to the internal chain - similar to what the C70 and other C-line cams have except with the R5C it doesn't seem like you can turn it on/off.

Thought it worth mentioning that the R5C internal audio is imo the best internal audio I've ever used/heard from a mirrorless/DSLR cam. Maybe not as good as a C100/300 etc but I am so used to having to find a way to minimize the internal preamps with some kind of external recorder's that I was truly surprised when I realized I could just plug my G3 directly into the mic/line and get pretty good results. To be clear, if you're buying an R5C - the days of also needing an external recorder and Sescom attentuation cables, etc, etc (at least for one/two person interviews), are over!