Jimmy

http://shop.panasonic.com/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/lumix-interchangeable-lens-ilc-cameras/DMW-SFU1-VLOG.html?supportpage=true

http://www.43rumors.com/official-99-for-the-v-log-update-at-panasonic-store/

Seems reasonable to me, basically getting a new camera. I hope there is not a huge backlash about this, software costs money and it is amazing to see a company greatly improve what is a relativity old camera.

Any of these could be shot on Alexa (or even film) and still not look cinematic.

Cinematic is more about camera movement, shot composition, sound etc. From what I have seen of the C300 mk II, I have no doubt that it would have no issues on a hollywood set, even as an A cam.

Does seem a bit soft... Not sure the guy did a great job in post though, maybe he didn't push the sharpness like you should with c-log

120fps test

What I find interesting is the highend fashion look of some parts of video 1 and 3... I could see this becoming the DSMC system that Red always dreamed of (maybe C500 mk II will be higher resolution, to really nail it).

Canon colours and 15 stops = swoon

$15k is alot, but the dual pixel focus, very high DR, very high ISO in a small, lightweight camera checks alot of boxes. So, so tempted, if it had 4K/60p I would have pressed buy now already.

BTW - first video is mostly using face detection AF.

Colours and skin tones look very promising. 1st video is all natural light and seems to be more or less midday sun in some shots, DR seems to be holding true to what they claimed.

Same reason Panasonic did with P-Log... Promise now while it is still in the works, deliver later... Keeps people interested

That was before the new log mode...

If the DR and highlight rolloff has improved, this could be an interesting camera, now.

My paid work is almost exclusively nature/landscape (non narrative).... But I am writing a few things... psychological drama sort of stuff based on some of the difficult things I have been through in my life, but also adding alot of fiction to it (and some dark humour, i hope)...  Probably will be a short story rather than a screenplay though.

Also really like indie sci-fi/drama too, like "Another Earth", "Coherence" etc... I have a good concept for this sort of story, but really struggling to flesh it out.

Sony showed with the FS700 that they are willing to unlock the potential of their cameras for 3rd party hardware.

It's possible... Doesn't raw go via HD-SDI though on the Shogun? That would be less likely on a small camera.

I would argue that 10 bit with decent compression is still better than 8 bit uncompressed.

I'll see how your test idea stacks up though with a heavy grade on a raw file from my a7s when i get chance. Maybe you are right.

Something that video also highlights is the idea that if you are on an 8 bit monitor, you cannot see the benefits of shooting at a higher bit rate.

I'll just use my 15+ years in the industry to feel comfortable with my point of view.

8 bit can be implemented very well as Canon has shown. But, for more challenging shots, you have to get it spot on in camera.

Bandind aside, one of the biggest flaws of 8 bit is saturation. If you want to push it hard, in post, 8 bit is often not enough and starts to show the colour steps. This is vital for skin tones, gradients etc.

As has been noted though, the only people using words like "holy grail" are those saying 10 bit is not that great. The rest of us just see it as another piece of the puzzle and one we would like to see hit the mainstream. 

I guess when people actually start using 10bit everyday, they might get it. To suggest a colourist wouldn't know the difference is scarily off the mark.

Dvx200 has 10bit out I think, HDMI ... Slightly poor choice imo

Not gonna spare a millisecond arguing the case for 10bit.

Wow.

Reworking 1 still image from a raw file to 8 and 10 bit files.... and compressing video to 8 bit and 10 bit are two very different things.

This is why jpgs on a DSLR are far better than a framegrab. There is time to properly map the 14 bits to 8 bits.

Never really understood why people care what other folk do with their cash!

10 bit is a huge, huge leap... If the GH4 is still banding, then they must have screwed up their implementation or someone screwed up their tests.

10bit + a proper log is a very, very good balance of image quality and file size/workflow.

I'd happily shoot 14bit if the Canon ML cams had a slow motion option. 5D3raw is still may fave image of all the cameras I have owned, including FS700+Odyssey

Alot of people already have that stuff though... and as had been mentioned already... The Ursa is not ready to shoot out of the box anyway.

I guess our best hope, for the time being, is if Canon/Nikon/Sony/Samsung follow the GH4's example of having 10bit out.

BM should stick the new sensor in the old BMCC casing.... Probably have to drop to 4K/30fps and 1080/60p, but would still sell a truck worth

How would an Odyssey give you a similar output? Still 8 bit, still 30fps max in 4K, still around 12 stops, still 4K and not 4.6K...confused

but I do agree with the sentiment, it is alot of money to spend and the initial paper spec excitement might not translate well into imagery (same can be said for the Ursa mini too)