BenEricson

See post above.

Canon claims 15 stops and the sun still renders out a disgusting clipped out BLOB if you shoot towards it. On film, it would be a tint pin point. Black Magic Pocket 6K same story. Immediately looks cheap when you point it towards a bright light source. I would like to believe they will figure out how to get more highlight detail, but I really doubt it.

If anyone is interested, I bought the RawLite OLPF filter but it took so long to ship, that I ended up buying a pocket that already had one installed... (took over a month to arrive.) If anyone is interested, I will give you a deal. Unopened. I paid 390 shipped. https://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/53711-olpf-for-og-bmpcc-or-bmmcc-32500/

I'll push it to f2.8 on a 70 - 200 tight or f2 on a 50mm on wide in manual mode. Of course you need to monitor the camera, but with a decent monitor this isn't a huge problem. f/1.8 on a full frame sensor is a whole different story.

I'm just curious... Why use auto focus for a talking head interview? I've shot 100s of interviews with the C300 Mkii for years and now the C70. I would never do that, simply for the fact that it can be unreliable. I suppose if you're shooting on a gimbal or the person is moving around, or a unmanned camera, but a traditional interview I always have focus on manual. I could never work without NDs or XLR though. Kind of the number one selling point with the C70.

I'm with ya. This is why I would vote for the C300 Mkii or C300 Mkiii if you're doing a lot of handheld work. The weight of the camera, coupled with a view finder, makes for smooth handheld footage. It all depends. The Internal IS on the Canon is only okay to me. I would probably never risk using it on a paid job, maybe to fake a tripod shot in a pinch, but I couldn't imagine shooting that over an IS lens or choosing to warp stabilize in post.

Canon Dealer's will all do 0% APR / 2 Year. I own the C70. Used it on a job the other day. The camera is solid. I think the price is fair for the image quality you get. If I wasn't trying to use it on a gimbal and shot a ton of handheld, I might consider a used C300 Mkii package for peanuts or a C300 Mkiii.

Good call. It also is very wide but still has threads for an ND filter.

Beautiful. I wouldn't say anything in that looks bad. It all looks great to me. From the first shot the image just feels right. Curious how your setup is rigged? I might need to pick up one of those lenses. I wish they made a pancake 8mm. I know there's a 10mm SLR Magic. Maybe a little heavy though.

Visually really cool. The subject is super interesting. Wasn't even thinking about the gear. I would love to see more shots with a deeper DOF to see detail around the garden. I guess more wide shots in general and less contrast. I also thought the bright red modern car felt a little out of place, but maybe the juxtaposition is interesting. The piece has such a nice timeless feel and place without it. Look forward to seeing the full length doc!

I own the C70 (Same Sensor.) I think the potential for nice color is definitely there. Really clean sensor. The color work flow Canon has provided is really terrible though. The LUTs are 6 years old and were built for the original C300 Mkii. Nothing has been updated. The LUT pack for C70 even includes LUTs for gamma profiles that no longer exist. (Clog2 / BT.709) I think at this point, when a cell phone can shoot nice photos and videos, the camera manufactures really should be focusing on a solid post work flow that produces beautiful, consistent results or they will lose customers.

I think the color in general has always suffered as the light sensitivity gets better. Look at the original Black Magic Pocket, Digital Bolex, Arri Alexa. None of the those are lowlight cameras but in the right light they look really really good.

Yeah, those Rec709 grades with like 7 or 8 stops of dynamic range look so rich and vibrant. Film print style. Even 35mm film shot right now has a lot less punch than it used to. I always though the baked in profiles on the C300 Mkii or maybe the 1DC or 1DX look really really nice. Yes, you have to be more intentional with your exposing but the results are really nice. Not all log footage is the same though. Flat film scans are incredibly easy to grade. You don't need any LUTs, just a standard correction will look really good and natural.

Nah, it's pretty bad. Do a search for even Canon C70 footage. Nothing you can find will look this good. There's tons of flat looking footage, but almost nothing with a standard balanced REC709 grade. The C300 Mkii looked good to me as well. One of the easiest cameras to get beautiful skin tone out of.

You'd have to under expose the pocket quite a bit to get a perfect circle like that. Most digital cameras will produce a blob, rather than the clean circle film produces, (unless you're shooting a silhouette.) RAW would probably get you closer. I always use ProRes on the bmpcc.

For me it is the way the pocket or the micro handles saturation on the top end. The example above is going to pure white in the highlights. The sun is golden at sunset. Here is a shot I took on the pocket a few years back, the second photo is Kodak 250d from a project I did last year. The 16mm film really has no clipping point in the highlights, so of course it looks better, but that characteristic of being able to easily push saturation in the highlights is there in the pocket as well. The version with contrast was graded by a colorist. Images are subject, but I would rather let the light fall naturally than create some sort of HDR looking image. This is why A/B comparisons are pointless and often tailored to fit the narrative. If you do something in the real world like shoot directly into the sun, this is what you get.

That's a cool little rig. I think I like the image I see from the pocket more, although I have always loved the files from any ML Canon camera. The ease of ProRes HQ is definitely easier from a work flow perspective.

There’s some irony here... People talk about the UMP 12K because it is new and exciting tech. If Steve only cared about image quality, he would just shoot 35 or 65 and be done with it. For better or for worse, he’s clearly a tech dork and is obsessed with perfectly the digital capture techniques. Image quality is all subjective, anyway.

Yeah, the sweet spot on the older c-mount glass is definitely F5.6 to F11. You can get a nice natural softness / glow at F4 or 2.8, but the wider lenses also vignette at times.

You're probably a bit more experienced with this sort of thing. The sensor on the pocket is tiny, so at F5.6 or F8, you should have no problem zone focusing and getting really good results. If you want to shoot at F2 while walking backwards and maintaining focus, there are certainly better gimbals and cameras. I am more speaking to the fact that the gimbal is tiny, weighs next to nothing, takes me 1 minute to balance, and the batteries last forever. The Ronin is twice the size and more than twice the price.

Save your money and buy a Lumix 12-35 2.8 IS and a nice external battery for your pocket! You can solve the problem with stabilization by using an IS lens and the battery fix is very cheap and effective. No need. The Zhiyun Weebill is 400 and does a great job. Smaller, lighter, more portable, battery goes forever with the bmpcc. Gotta be close to 8 or 9 hours. Attached a photo of my setup. I'm working on a project with vintage C mount lenses. Not trying to win some sort of depth of field contest. The camera has beautiful texture and looks great at F8 or F11. OLPF shows up next week. Throw a 4 stop ND on there and rate it at ISO50 with a light meter.

Agreed! Started shooting 35mm stills on the OM1 like 6 years ago. Recently, medium format or fully auto point and shoot cameras. The Olympus Stylus Epic takes great photos. I think you can learn a lot about lighting and composition by constantly shooting stills, plus its a lot of fun.

True. I own a Bolex Super 16 with the pistol grip. The weight and 3 point contact make for extremely nice handheld footage. A pistol grip / EVF / would probably work really well on this camera as well. The weight should be good as long as the lens is heavy enough.

The BMP4K weighs less than the mag on an SR3! A 105mm with no shoulder rig and multiple points of contact won’t end well. The balance, weight and ergonomics of the rig are huge factors to how smooth the shot looks.

I paid 400 for the optitek or whatever it is. (Since then I have sold the whole setup.) That’s kind of a lot if you’re paying 900 for the body. It’s just nice to have image stabilized lenses as an option. Not sure what they go for these days