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Cool. Personally if they end up adding El Zone to this monitor, I will consider picking it up.

When first trying to get my foot in the door in filmmaking, lumix mft and canon rebels were the popular choices 10 years ago. Panny cameras (and blackmagic) in particular were the lesser known cameras you'd pick up if you wanted to get your feet wet with great specs at a great price, but they were also the cameras seen as "low tier", the cameras you'd trade in for a more mature and reputable system like Canon (and now Sony) when you moved up in your career. I thought that with the introduction of the S series lumix bodies (especially the S1H), as well as PDAF, that budget stigma for Panny would change. But it really hasn't unfortunately. I suspect it comes down to the ecosystem. The S1 cameras were a great introduction, but they weren't taken seriously at the time by the market (no system track record or PDAF, expensive/limited lenses, etc). They were already behind and mostly dismissed at launch. Most of the S series launch "issues" have been remedied now, and the S1 bodies are proven workhorses, but now where are the new cameras? How can anyone plan an ideal upgrade path from the S5ii? What it's really about for me: I'm still shook by how Samsung disappeared with no warning after the NX1/NX500 and believe any under-performing company could follow suit in pulling the plug like that. When you're investing thousands into a system, you'd get nervous too if you notice signs of trouble for it's future.

Confirmed: So it's S5D, S9 firmware, and S5ii/x firmware. ...Tired of waiting. Literally just want the S1H and S1R with some refresh features from the s5ii. I've been thinking of going full nikon Z + sony E for the system I grow into.

The lens itself. The compact body was just a bonus.

With the success of the x100v, I wonder why there hasn't been a large sensor compact refresh from Panny. The LX100 ii was barely an update too, I just don't understand...its one of my favorite cameras.

It's crazy how they go for $4k used now. Or maybe it's not so crazy, I often forget how much time has passed (it's already 2024?) but it's a great value. I'd be tempted to switch too. By the way, eva1 secondhand prices are even more insane now. I struggle with the idea of having kit that would get me hired more easily, or at least be "recognizable" by name vs someone asking "what's a varicam?". Hell at least they'll know what an ursa mini is despite its reputation as a lower end camera/brand. I think that's what pushed me to lean towards the ursa vs the eva1 when I started. For corporate it seems FX line dominates, some Canon. Narrative, its any Alexa with some Venice here and there. Commercial, it's a toss up between any of the big players, including Komodo/Raptor/C300. So I came to the conclusion that if you don't have the trending models in your kit then your strategy to be hired as an owner op by camera model alone is almost a moot point, and you should just get a baseline camera package that YOU prefer and works for your lower-end jobs where renting isn't even in the conversation.

I've been trying to find a source for this literally anywhere. Is it mostly hearsay? Marketing touts brand new sensor.

Pocket Cinema Camera 6k, same Pocket 6k Pro housing, new internals

As an S5ii owner enjoying in-body cooling I not only agree with the sentiments but also applaud the thorough review of where we were vs what people deem acceptable now. I think all I'm saying in regards to crying out that 4k 120fps overheats quickly is that, at its price point, I'd be surprised if it didn't, past or present. If they throw in the kitchen sink to marginally compete on specs (or poorly attempt to not cannibalize other units), so be it. As with the R5, if people make the complaints apparent enough through user experience, I'm hoping future sales will force them to dial back on poor marketing practices, push and pull. I personally can't wrap my head around the concept of cameras priced like the zv-e1 that just may light on fire when you press record. But I also feel the same way about the flood of six second IG/tiktok reels with seizure-inducing transitions. If that's their audience, maybe I'm just out of touch, and it makes sense why they think they can get away with it. There's a demographic.

4k60p record times seem decent for this kind of body considering past Sony track record. And to complain about overheating when recording 4k120p for long periods of time...I really cannot think of any common shooting scenario where one would need to be doing that reliably. I also can understand the philosophy of urging manufacturers to sell cameras that just don't overheat at all. My older iPhone overheats and slows to a crawl in these record-breaking summer temps. I don't cut Apple slack for that so I guess its only fair to give my professional camera tools the same treatment. Still though. Yeah, don't make excuses for engineers cutting corners in heat-dissipation (for whatever reasons they do it for), but also, SIR, really, why are you recording 4k120 for that long? 60p sure...

Glad you got it sorted (for now, I'm going to start keeping tally score of your re-configurations lol) I think the only real reason I'd want the X is for All-I recording with the RAW upgrade thrown in.

Right, some of the "criticisms" could be labeled as nitpicking, sensor-sh*tting or genuine concerns depending on your use case for the camera (and the expectations you would have from a $2k mirrorless unit). Me personally, I really wasn't expecting the first attempt at PDAF to be this great and am happy to wait on the updates or new iterations of the tech. However issues with banding, channel clipping, chroma noise pattern and green noise signal, picture profile NR and smoothing etc are worthy of mention on the sole basis of them being a step back from previous models. These are new issues that weren't there before, much like S1H ghosting. But regardless, I'm enjoying the S5ii for everything it CAN do and have been working around the processing quirks, there's no other swiss army knife camera like it. It's pulling its weight with strobe photography. Videos grade wonderfully with VLOG in good light. I have some great LUTs to burn in looks, very handy for turnaround. The boot time is kinda annoying, though. Perhaps I'm most curious about how the S5IIx prores (and even HDMI raw image) will look in comparison to the current image in the S5ii with the available codecs. There's some noticeable differences in the processing of the prores image of the GH6 vs h.265 and I suspect the same will be true here!

I think this is the biggest thing that has started to have me considering returning the camera while I still have a week left to do so. Also, all the exterior footage I've shot and seen online looks leaning towards a magenta/brown tint too much. The latitude and banding issues in the S5 facebook group seems to fall on deaf ears when called out. I actually thought V-log colors were better on skin and clothes in the studio scene in that video, but the green shadows are really not great when compared to original S5.

Ever since the D750 I've had hopes that Nikon would pull through with a banger of a release in video specs. I think the Z9 RAW indicates they're going in the right direction, but I just haven't seen enough use or support online to draw a proper conclusion. When NRAW was released I was super hyped; maybe it's just my eyes or bias but I did "perceive" what looked like richer tonality in the few sources of footage online. That kind of color depth from 5D magic lantern, Sigma FP, or Redcode etc. I'd like to find some files of well-lit scenes and push in Resolve. So I'm looking forward to hearing what both the rumored Z8 and S1Hii releases bring. I'd trade up from my s5ii to either of them for ultimate high-res hybrids with PDAF and color I favor, and just adapt EF glass. I just can't bring myself to settle on the R5C man.

I'm going to keep practicing for a better workflow in the grade. It most likely is going to be a matter of tinkering with RAW profiles or even creating/loading up some custom luts that get me the commercial ready "pop" I'm used to in the curves of other mentioned camera profiles. I'm seeing more magenta in skintones, (and even more green in shadows than original S5) but as @MrSMW and @hyalinejim stated, these are fixes I can get the hang of over time. As I said before I'm honestly happy as is; I bought this video first in mind. Not expecting magic, but besides my old LX100 I never took the time to learn how their RAW files work because I only used their cameras for video. S5ii is the first Lumix camera I'm determined to use as a true hybrid in the field, I'm optimistic! (Watch, two weeks from now I'll come back raving about Panny color)