Zak Forsman

that's what we used to call the Panasonic "mojo".

I should be working, instead, playing...

Yeah, you're 100% right. I think we sometimes forget to take into account just how much our lens choices affect the perception of how any given sensor performs. I'm not completely writing off the GH5. I'll definitely revisit my consideration when the Anamorphic firmware updates are realized later this year.

As you know, I left my GH4/Odyssey 7Q+ combo behind for the Pocket/Micro/BMCC cameras a year ago. Was happy to trade resolution for superior color, DR, highlights, skin tones. From what i've seen of the GH5 clips yesterday and today, it still falls short of the original sensors from BMD in what I consider "essential" areas. The camera definitely has some great features. The 10 bit clips stand up to much more abuse than anything I was ever able to expect from internally captured GH4 clips. They are more robust than the GH4, including the 8 bit 60p clips like the one I posted. The GH4 had some serious encoder issues that V-Log (as we remember) brought to the forefront. The GH5 seems to have improved on that, but it's still not as robust as what I get from my BMD Micro and 2.5K Cinema Camera. Going to stick with those for now. Not that someone couldnt make a fine looking film with the GH5, it's just not for me. I'm not ready to sacrifice "the essentials" for resolution. my 2¢.

The MP4 container thing is a Mac issue, so let's put that aside. This issue is probably linked to Panasonic's implementation of 10 bit h.264. Possible it is not supported by most of our NLEs and apps. The 60p files are unique in that they are 8 bit.

Are you on a Mac?

I've had the same problem with .MP4 files from the GH4. When I owned one, I always made sure the camera was generating .MOV files. Something about Panasonic's implementation of the .MP4 container (regardless of codec) has always been problematic for me. That aside, I can confirm that Luke's files are h.264.

i was able to open them in VLC, then used that to rewrap (not re-encode) them. Then i was able to open them. I transcoded to ProRes HQ at that point before grading.

if the BMPCC speedbooster fits, like it does on the GH4 for those brave enough to try it, that'll get you to a 1.10x crop.

in motion...

Thanks for posting these clips. They're fun to play with.

Anamorphic mode (4x3) is going to be 8 bit?

I've had the Tokina for years. Very, very easy to match the Sigma 18-35 and 50-100 so i keep them all together as a zoom kit. It's a little warpy for my taste but that can be fixed in Resolve with the barrel distortion adjustment. The BMPCC speedbooster opens up FOV by x0.58.

I blame everyone in this thread for this impulse purchase. But love you for it too. This thing is so much fun.

same. i use it for scratch.

I think he's referring to converting from 23.976 and 24, and vice versa. I do this all the time for clients that i make DCPs for and it's seamless. they typically deliver a 23.976 master that needs to be 24 to meet the DCI spec. and you could do the same with your camera originals if you knew you had to meet a specific framerate delivery requirement. I save the old Apple Cinema Tools app for this specifically. No one has made an app since (that I'm aware of) that makes the process as easy.

yes, a 180° shutter angle will maintain it relative to framerate. if you were dealing with shutter speed, on the otherhand, then you'd want to manually adjust it to match your framerate: 24fps and 1/48, 120fps and 1/240, and so on. of course you can divert from this for creative reasons.

Yeah, I get the same result going to an Odyssey 7Q+. Or "got" I should say. I don't own those GH4s anymore.

Yeah, i agree "motion cadence" is an imperfect name, but it's what people tend to use as a catchall term for anything that affects how motion reads on-screen. And this definitely pushes some GH4 footage away from what I'd consider ideal, which is also imperfectly described as "more cinematic". No post funny business with the frame interpolation or blending here -- not in the timeline, nor in the monitor. This was straight DCI 4K at true 24.000fps, albeit cropped and scaled to 2K (2048x858).

My understanding is that it's a codec issue, but I'm far from an expert. I just know what i see. the GH4 handled it better than most low-cost cameras, but it still often rendered motion with a "doubling" or "tripling" of the fast-motion portions of the image in single frames. It was always easiest to spot on specular highlights on passing cars. Take a look at the car's grill in this image from a clip I shot many moons ago. You see how fast motion in this frame is rendered in three "steps", rather than one smooth motion? On the whole, this subtly nudges the perception of motion closer to a "video look" (for lack of a better term) when played back at speed. It's something that I don't see on the Alexa (the Mini specifically) or even the BMCC, BMPCC & BMMCC sensors when shooting in RAW. Certainly there are more important considerations than this when choosing a camera -- and many would say this is acceptable -- but given the choice, it's something I try to avoid.

never owned a GH2 or 3. Had an AF100 prior to owning the pair of GH4s. Dont think I ever shot 1080p. Pretty much 4K exclusively. there's a few threads on this site (and others) that cover the topic in-depth if you'd like to learn about it.

Going to be a little more cautious with the GH5 than I was with the GH4. I took possession of two of those on day one and spent a year trying to wrestle that image into something it wasn't capable of -- and VLog was a massive disappointment. Have been much happier with the Blackmagic line -- especially with the more cinematic motion cadence of those cameras. Optimistic about the GH5 but again, taking a wait and see approach.

No, that's not me. But you're not the first to ask... the actor's name is John T. Woods. We just happen to look related.

yeah, i never denoised pocket footage until DaVinci Studio 12.5. the noise reduction is as good as Neat.

My production company produced this microbudget feature, shot on the GH4. Only have the :30 teaser available right now. But the feature will be released next year.