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Andrew, glad to see you continuing for the moment! Do not give up!

Ok guys, if you want to see a very special article on m43rumors, just look at this one: https://www.43rumors.com/more-gh5ii-coverage-with-size-comparisons/ I believe that clickbait site is run by an Italian... When reading through the comment section I got the giggles... This is a masterpiece! A kind of Fellini for nerds...

Yes, it IS a great lens and a great system... Even Toneh had to admit this recently when he shot with this lens on the GH5-II... He now says it is the best vlogger combi on the market... According to him Panasonic finally fixed the CAF on that camera… It is clear that unsubstantiated one-liners do get him a lot of clicks! Furthermore he is firmly within the group that doesn't understand equivalence. Yes, it behaves like a 20-50 mm in FF terms, and yes it has the bokeh of a 3.4 FF lens, but as aperture is concerned, it DOES behave as a 1.7 as far as the exposure triangle (aperture - shutterspeed - iso) is concerned. Not as a 3.4 lens! How unfortunate that Toneh doesn’t understand this… People get confused by the fact that the light-gathering of this 1.7 lens is lower than with a 1.7 FF lens, but that is of course relative to the sensor size. On a MFT sensor you need less light to cover the sensor. This actually means that you gain nearly two stops compared to a FF 2.8 lens, and this handily does make up the ISO disadvantage that MFT has compared to FF. As to bokeh, it is very dependent on the type of footage one shoots. For my line of work, I am in 95% of the cases perfectly fine with the bokeh of a 1.7 aperture on MFT. Having a shallower depth of field can easily become tricky. My 42.5 mm 1.7 gives me a gorgeous look in the right balance of shallowness. If I want a real FF look, I reach for my 1.2 Sigma zoom (with speedbooster) or my excellent (sharp!) 0.95 17mm Mitakon. Only if one needs extrem bokeh, a FF camera with a 1.4 lens will be the better choice. The 10-25 1.7 zoom is really tack sharp, and it even outperforms most primes in this range. I will be curious to see whether they can make the announced 25-50 1.7 zoom optically as good as this one…

Interesting! I would love to hear Andrew's opinion!

Yes, on my AMD 3950 with RTX 2060 Super it does run relatively smooth in Resolve, not so smooth in Premiere Po. I have got 64 Gb RAM and of course fast PCI SSDs. If you add some taxing grades, multiview becomes problematic, but that is my later stage anyway...

Thanks guys for your thoughts on ProRes. Food for thought. Interesting to hear that BRAW is such a good alternative. Yes, I know that ProRes still holds a firm grip in the professional world, but that might also be a case of old habits slowly die... I was just curious to know from others whether they still think that the advantage of less burden on the CPU/GPU was greater than the disadvantage of gigantic data rates and file sizes. As it is, I find archiving already a very taxing job...

Hi Yannick, up till now I have worked with up to 5 cams, and that went smoothly. I agree that somewhere there must be a turning point where h264 becomes slow and Prores remains doable, but at that point gigantic data traffic of Prores will also become a burden? I have no experience with braw... Is it s good compromise between IQ and data efficiency?

Yes, I have tried the lighter flavours as well, but as soon as I stepped down on the scales of Prores I found the quality lacking and well under the h264/h266 codecs... Maybe I am missing something? It could be that very complex gradings might benefit from Prores, but up till now, I didn't 3xperience any problems with my new hardware. Resolve is extremely fast, even with a rather modest AMD 3950 and RTX2060 GPU. I agree that a couple of years ago 4k in h264 was a pain, but nowadays I have the impression that the extra storage demands of Prores slow down the process more than the handling of h264...

Yes, few people realize that the MFT mount enables a somewhat larger sensorsize than most MFT cameras use. I became aware of this with the GH5s, because it's sensor has a considerably larger size than the the standard GH5, resulting in a much wider image in lenses. In fact it seems to be somewhere in the middle between m43 and apsc... It would be great to have more cameras with a variable use of sensor surface being used. That way we would be much more flexible when using manual lenses and with or without ibis...

Andrew, it's great to see you posting more reviews on cameras again, because that's where you're good at. Critical views on gear without all the PR humbug that other sites quote from the manufacturer... I do have one question. You still seem very fond of Prores, and you said you would like to have that on the new GH6 as well. I have Prores (and the DNX formats) on my Atamos Ninja Inferno, but nowadays I hate to use them... My point is that these codecs seem obsolete to me. They take up extreme amounts of storage space, and to my eye don't really have an edge on h264 and h265 with higher bitrates. I understand that they were very welcome a couple of years ago since they weren't CPU and GPU hungry, but is that still an advantage nowadays when CPUs and GPUs have become so powerful? On my latest desktop and laptop I think that these low compression codecs have become even slower because of the gigantic storage burden. Then there is also the huge problem of archival space. Two hours of footage fills up my 2TB ssd on my Atomos... When working on multicamera shots of classical concerts, I am literally buried under data! Maybe your experiences are different? I can imagine that if one does short films or commercials, the data flood is less of a problem? Do you still experience a higher quality image with Prores versus high bitrate 264/265? I am curious to hear your thoughts...

I do a lot of concert videos of classical music, and it is vital for me to have camera's that can run unattended for one or two hours. The GH5 is still one of the very few hybrids that can do exactly that. With a battery grip it can record for nearly 3 hours and I have never had any heating problem. For run-and gun it is also still an excellent camera with its great Ibis, very good handling and bulletproof design. Yes, the AF is nowadays its weak spot, but after all the updates and with some native lenses it is much better than some would suspect. In critical situations, one learns how to use it or not to use it. I would like to have the AF of a Sony or Canon, but it is still no deal breaker for me. The whole ecosystem is another reason why I am still very much in love with M43. Besides a wonderful and vast array of lenses by Panasonic and Olympus, we now have an ever expanding range of third party lenses. My latest acquisition (a wonderful and incredibly well performing Mitakon 17 mm F0.95 lens) is giving me a whole new playing field. I do follow the developments with Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fuji, but I still see a lot of disadvantages when switching to one of these. I agree that AF, DR and lowlight capabilities are no small feats, but there are other factors as well, and I don’t want to gain on some aspects and loose in a bunch of others. Today I saw that new video by “Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions”. Funny enough he reached the same conclusions. It is easy to get blinded by all those shiny features of the new FF bodies, and forget the blessings of what one already owns.

Hi Andrew, this is exactly the kind of information people are looking for. Just a clear view on the pros and cons... You see why we don't want you to abandon EOSHD? Keep up the good work!

Andrew, please don't quit! I have learned so much on this blog. I know we live in a thoroughly controlled and commercialised world, and it is frustrating to see the commercial chaps dominate the scene. It is indeed ridiculous that Panasonic doesn't send you a GH5, but it is also understandable and maybe even a compliment! The industry likes smooth guys for reviewing and one could accuse you of all kind of things, but a smooth guy you're not! Therefore it is vital that guys like you and Gordon of Cameralabs and others who share a passion and an independent mind won't give up. Gordon adds a paypal link for buying him a cup of coffee, and I think thats a great solution. Why don't you add links to Buy me a beer? You live in Germany, so that seems quite appropriate. It would cover some of your costs and enable you to buy or rent the equipment and continue writing in an independent way. BTW I do like John of Cinema5d. He seems to be symphatetic and he doesn't feel too snobby to test some consumer stuff. I hope you'll find ways to continue Eoshd!

Yes, this is a beautiful camera indeed. A friend of mine has the T1. I like everything about Fuji, except that their lenses are big and expensive... Will wait for the GH5 because of the whole ecosystem. For studio work this is no problem, but I do not go back to bulky systems when outdoors.

It all depends on the way you pursue these offences. If the guy get lynched, you would be right. If he gets a fair chance to defend himself, there is nothing wrong with pursueing him for his offences. Indeed, a society where these offences are being pursued in a fair way is a much better place than a society that does not care.