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8K 24P Test in Low Light with the Low-light Stabilization Setting used When I Move with the Camera It appears that the low-light stabilization setting pushes up the shutter speed and ISO. You can see that in those clips (identified by whether or not I am moving with the camera) there is considerably more noise. The colors are retained and sharpness does not seem to be reduced, and the digital artifacts from low-light digital stabilization appear to be absent. Audio is good.

Yes, exactly. Steady shots are great, the resolution is there.

8K 24P in the rain: Dark day, suggests 8K 24P when walking with the camera will not look very good at night without the special lowlight stabilization setting.

The key innovation of the insta360 Ace Pro is its low-light stabilization setting. This appears, from my test video, to have almost eliminated the artifacts of digital stabilization while moving the camera in low light. Of course, all the digital noise reduction and processing results in a mushier video (compared to the non-processed (no noise reduction, no digital stabilization) video from the Pocket 3). But the results, if not looked at too closely, are impressive - colors are good and the dynamic range in "Pure Video" is pretty good too. My assessment about low light is that when the cameras are standing still, there is not that much difference - the difference is when the camera moves, given digital stabilization - GoPro is hopeless, and the insta360 Ace Pro does its magic, but the quality is still worse than mechanical stabilization, as seen in my video. To see the degradation from camera movement from the digital processing, look at the sign writing in the first insta360 clip at the end - when the camera is moving the print on the sign is doing peculiar things, when the camera stops, they become much clearer and precise. You do not se such a dramatic change at the end of the Pocket 3 version. One can invoke the low-light stabilization setting while shooting 8K 24P, so it would be interesting to see how that combination does at night, perhaps minimizing the mush. The "Pure Video" setting seems to push up exposure, and I reduced luma in post to make the video more realistic to the scenes. But I am not sure how that setting contributes to low-light prowess.

1. "insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization" = 4K 30p, fixed. That is the camera's best low-light setting. 2. The slow motion parts of the 4K 60P daylight video were shot in 4K 120p. There are three consecutive clips. Since this was a 60P video, the slow motion is 1/2 speed.

insta360 Ace Pro versus DJI Pocket 3 at Night insta360 first then the Pocket 3 for each scene. insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization, sharpening low. DJI Pocket with noise reduction at the lowest level (-2) and 10bit HLG profile. Both auto white balance and auto exposure. No noise reduction in post. Pocket 3 HLG transformed using color management to REC709.

First, comparing the in-camera (Flowstate) stabilization in 4K 60 with the 4:3 FreeFrame setting using Gyroflow stabilization in post: Second, 8K 24.0P video, complete with that beloved 24 fps motion: Third, a video shot in 4K 60P, complete with moving with the camera (forwards and backwards), the 2X zoom, 2X slow motion (from 4K 120P), and audio. Maybe I will try a night video. I wish it was a sunny day.

Oh, and I am going to shoot with the insta360 ACE PRO too. Brandon Li really sold out, and tried hard to make a convincing video by hiding the faults. Maybe I will be surprised positively. I will try to think of some use for it - it is unlikely to beat the Pocket 3 for night video, which has a bigger sensor and no need to crop or use high shutter speeds for stabilization. But if it does, it would be great to have a tiny camera that does it all. I like tiny cameras - it is cute. I do like the lossless zoom, and 8K is always intriguing, but at that horrible 24 fps requiring an ND if the sun is shining, which costs an extra $110! Not to mention the bother. Even the Canon 8bit REC709 V10 has built in ND's, and they can be automatic! 8bit REC709 is really limiting - have to get exposure just right, have to watch out for blow outs more, cannot do much in post to correct, have to stick with the canned colors, no control of noise reduction or sharpening (all of which are subject to control with GoPro's and the Pocket 3). This is really a big step backwards. Even the 8bit HLG on older Sony's was an improvement.

"Don't confuse the bit-depth with DR, they're independent variables." Do you seriously think that I do not know this? Do you understand how condescending and insulting that statement is? Do you also seriously think that I just defend GoPro no matter what? Is that how you justify thinking you actually know what you are talking about when you talk about GoPro's or the many other other cameras you have not used - that pushback to what you say is based on prejudice? Attack the person exposing you? Let me make it very clear - I have access to any camera, any. You might have noticed that I have posted videos from 10's of different cameras of all types. I mostly use the ones I think are best in their category at the time, and I care about size (so I am ignoring the medium-frame cameras for now) and ability to shoot handheld (so you won't see me packing an ARRI or a Venice, though I did work with the Sony FS cameras). I thus do not defend based on name brand or "ownership", I only care about facts (this does NOT mean I do not make mistakes). You made some ignorant statements about the latest GoPro's, made some ridiculous statements about bit depth, and got caught, so you try to make the person who pushed back look like an idiot - both ignorant and prejudiced. You can dis on GoPro's or Nikons or Canons or Sonys or BlackMagic's or Z-cams or Panasonics or Sigma's (all of which I have used and posted videos from), but it better be based on facts (eg, forget shooting with stabilization in low light with a GoPro - yes; Panasonic AF sucks, until only recently - yes; Sony IBIS is actually weakest - yes; BMPCC and Sigma images are more pleasing for some reason than from other cameras - yes; the Hero 12 is not worth buying over the 11 - yes; the Nikon Z8 is bulky and its AF is difficult to use compared to other cameras - yes). Do you actually think you have a sense of humor? What exactly is your question? I am happy to answer it. Even if it is, as is likely, an insulting one.

And the new HLG 4K slow motion test: in HDR:

I am not confusing anything. You are just choosing to believe that only you know it all, and others cannot possibly know as much as you on any topic. You have knowledge, cut the condescending... (which is not just to me). And post some of your work instead of lecturing. I cannot argue with what you hate. And unlike you, I do not assume that what I like is what everyone else should like. I have pushed 60 fps because of the bias that WAS in this forum that somehow 24 fps is the correct way to shoot. I think now that has gone away, because the holiness of film has diminished here at last. In fact, stop your personal lecturing . I get it, you are not used to pushback because you believe in your own head you know it all. Your prejudices are now revealed, as well as your attitude. I argue against what you say when it is based on ignorance of cameras you have never used, which has been exposed often. Your experience with color grading does not carry over to camera capabilities that you read on the internet.

The latest firmware fixes the GLog, so no longer at -2 EV. There is also a new LUT. The old ones are gone. There was something wrong with the original Glog, fixed.

4K 60P Holiday Video at night (for all audiences): Looks spectacular in HDR, when YouTube gets around to showing it. Looks good in SDR. Nothing beats a gimbal for nighttime video with movement.

Here is another third-party video using this wannabe camera. What is useful here is unlike the influencer video from the gimbal guy in which each shot is about 1 second so you don't get a chance to inspect, this one has longer takes. The daytime 4K looks pretty good, the nighttime static shots look soft. And when he moves with the camera, the nighttime video looks truly awful, just as expected - you cannot use digital stabilization in low light and move. This camera has not defied the laws of physics; it does not matter the size of the sensor, the problem is digital stabilization. Anyway, here is the video: Nighttime moving at 6.25.

NR=0 is the default noise reduction. You want NR=1 for eliminating any noise reduction.