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The EOS M actually produces nice video (and I do care about resolution, but not obsessively):

That is useful to be aware of. But for lenses like the 100-300mm Lumix, which do not work well with IBIS, IBIS should simply be turned off and OIS on (note: IBIS on all cameras is less effective than lens OIS at higher focal lengths)..

The hardware decoding and encoding support for H265 and H264 does not change lots of irrelevant facts, like moon orbits. Hardware encoding and decoding is at least if not more important than simple speed increases for smooth editing and rendering without the need for proxies or something to keep busy while waiting.

The point is that the lens and only the lens mechanically (OIS) provides all the stabilization (not dual), so how can a change in camera firmware affect the stabilization of the 100-300mm lens? I have the same lens and the upgraded GX85, and I do not observe any change in stabilization. for this lens

The Lumix 100-300mm is NOT compatible with dual IBIS. This lens will not be firmware upgraded by Panasonic to make it so. The new camera firmware has no effect whatsoever on the performance of this lens. Just use its OIS

No, Intel has also included hardware encoding and decoding of H264 and H265 in the processors. The problem is that many software editors have not taken advantage of this capability.

Firmware update! V1.2 reduces camera noise while shooting video, dual IS2 stability improvements.

The GX85 plus the poor-man's Nocticron - the Lumix 42.5mm f1.7, which is a very good lens:

I take back my apology! My recollection was correct. There are no Cine modes in the ZS100. Not listed in the advanced manual/guide, nor as a menu choice in the camera in 'Creative Movie Mode." This is also true for the GX85. There are lots of customizations with the Styles offered (like Standard, Portrait, Natural). and control over gamma curves, tints, sharpness, saturation, NR, etc.

Thanks. Sorry, about the misinformation on profiles. I shoot videos only and only in Creative Movie Mode, but I prefer Standard for most outings and sometimes Natural; I guess I never went farther down in the menu. Everything is handheld.

OT answer. Like the GX85, no Cine PP's. I like it. Examples:

Thanks. IBIS really works well with the 20mm. This was shot using the Standard profile; in post I slightly tweaked the WB in some shots and altered luminance and some curves. I do not know what ISO was used; in this light aperture is wide open, shutter speed is fixed and thus all my exposure control was via ISO, and I exposed based on matching what I saw in the scene to what the viewfinder was showing.

Here is a low-light video using the GX85 and the classic 20mm f1.7 Lumix lens. This gives a hint of the performance of the GH5 not using VLog L:

This has some camera movement (walking with camera after escalator):

Panasonic has reneged in the past on promised and scheduled updates. Here is a schedule of lens updates on a Panasonic web site: http://shop.panasonic.com/dual-is?cm_mmc=AffiliateDefault-_-Ecommerce-_-Default-_-Default&src=linkshare&siteID=TnL5HPStwNw-b.Mu0.iXVBSddPHHK1R1Xg At the bottom are four lens updates scheduled to be available by February 2016. None of those updates has as yet come out, and Panasonic has not released any information about them. This prior behavior should not go unnoticed by those contemplating purchasing a GH5 based on promises from Panasonic.

You are correct; it has been said in this thread before. Yet it is not corrected by the original person who made that false claim. In fact, there are a lot of false claims about H265 in this thread (only better at low bitrates). Panasonic has not been forthcoming either about why it chose to use only the old, inefficient H264 for intra or 4K long.

The RX100 IV and V are made for HFR. Another set of tests of 1080 120p (people, squirrels and pigeons): And here is 120 and 240p:

No stabilization at all in 4K60p for this *announced* model (check their web site). As long as cameras eschew optical or block sensor stabilization, they will hit processor limits on digital stabilization. No stabilization makes using this camera handheld at 4K 60p pretty useless. I am sure that GoPro and Sony will announce 4K 60p shooters too; GoPro uses the same chipset as Yi, and they desperately need a new model. But I would guess it will have the same limitation.

As I said, that's why I don't like to use tripods!

I have actually used Joby's, so I can attach the camera to all sorts of places, before there was any stabilization in small cameras. Here are two low-light videos:

All completely handheld, so the trembling is mine (plus wind sometimes). The X3000 has the best stabilization system available for camcorders - BOSS. But, I did not use the best stabilization mode (Active, which combines BOSS with EIS). I have gotten better at handheld with it, and have found that active mode does improve the stabilization without any visible degradation of IQ. It is much harder to hold steady a very light camera, whatever the stabilization system. The key point for me is the small size (I can take it anywhere; I can get shots in a small amount of time with no setup); so if I have to use a tripod then there is no point to this camera however good its video quality. On shadow/highlight: I am always surprised by the range. On bright days sometimes the ooc footage looks overexposed with hot spots but when I bring down luminance in post, the colors become more saturated and the hot spots disappear. In the sunlit snow, the clips were slightly underexposed, but bringing up luma did not result in perceptible shadow noise. I could have done more with curves, but did not.

If H265 is really better than H264 in achieving no less quality for about half the bitrate, if H265 can be used for intra, if most editors are now fully ingesting H265, and if Intel chips are ready for H265 (and I think all of this is true), then why is Panasonic not using H265 for all its frame rates? And why is in fact anyone trying to defend not using H265 and accepting the bogus arguments of the Panasonic spokesperson? Somehow the BBC is suspect, which has no commercial interest, but not Panasonic? This statement makes no sense: "Since the AVC Ultra up to 30p is 400Mbps, it makes sense to be H.264." The point is it could be 200 Mbps and get the same quality using H265.

At least that is an argument that makes sense. What does "compressed" noise look like?

I'm sorry, but I do not understand any of the reasoning behind why H265 is not used. I do not think it is correct that H265 cannot be used for intra. If H264 can be, so can H265. And H265 is also supported in many editors now. H265 is also hardware decoded in all recent Intel chips; has been since at least the 6th generation (now in the 7th). The inefficiency of H264 limits the quality of what we shoot if we want to stay with standard storage, like sd cards. I think there is more to this than the faulty reasoning that was stated, and in any case it should not be applauded by video shooters.