Mattias Burling

For sure, still a bit unexpected. And yeah, Go Olympus! Always had high hopes for them.

You mean when they where third in 2015?

Should probably be taken with some salt. That Canon leads the way is not news. They have pretty much always outsold the rest. But I seriously didn't expect Sony to be beaten by both Canon and Olympus in mirrorless and by Panasonic in video cameras. https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.bcnaward.jp/award/gallery/2017/hard/p2.html&usg=ALkJrhhGLrPCoDSj_m6TzqSR5yvYRAbHlw Another chart: Olympus lost 8% but it looks like it was to Canon not Sony. http://www.43rumors.com/2016-sales-report-olympus-lost-8-sales-share-in-japan/

The Pana GX7 + Oly 17mm is lighting fast in AF for stills. Ive never experienced any lower focus speed when mix matching Pana/Oly lenses and bodies.

The 20mm f1.7 is a nice lens. Its AF for stills isnt as bad as its rep imo. For 90% of the people it will be fine. It used to be my goto lens for m4/3. Usually I experiment with adapters, old glass etc but keep at least one capable native lens so I can keep it simple if I want to. Now days its the Olympus 17mm f1.8. Its an awesome lens on a Panasonic, Olympus or Blackmagic. Razor sharp, fast, lovley bokeh and the option of manual focus is very welcomed. Since its been a kit lens for various models, just like the 20mm f1.7, it is now cheap to buy used, €180-250.

Nah I never use my M-Mounts for video, to small I guess.

Im more of a Leica + Leica kinda guy

I think an ND works perfectly for going from indoors to out doors and I dont change shutter speed for events either. I guess the lesson to take away from this is the same as always. We are all different and have different preferences. Thats why a person who states his very subjective opinion as a fact will get a bit of opposition

- Grip is subjective, I like the xt1 grip more than the A7sii and a6300 I bought and quickly returned/sold. - Stiff shutter dial is great because I rarely change it for stills and never ever for video. Dont like choppy video motion. - I didn't know there was people who didn't prefer an aperture ring. You learn every day Personally, not having the aperture on the lens is my biggest issue with the camera I'm currently testing. Spinning dials sucks, takes to much time. - I don't really see an issue since Ive never been in such a hurry switching between stills and video that I cannot push two buttons instead of one. But we don't know if the xt20 will have a video button yet. Speaking about Sony. Pretty ironic since one of the absolutely most frequent complaints about them is that they have a video button and dont allow using the shutter button like Fuji. Every single review complains about this. For me it doesn't matter. I can use both and haven't had issues with either type of setup.

Or ND, Leaf Shutter, high sync speed, external controls, distance scale, and probably more stuff. They are both great at what they do and I have had both. But I wouldn't be able to use the nx500 for stills in the way I enjoy to shoot. An Olympus E-P5 on the other hand is cheaper than all of them and is quite the street shooter with one of two fast and wide lenses they make that has distance scales. Video is a different ball game of course. Thats why a camera like the xt20 is interesting for me. I can use it for stills but also do a bit of video.

Because I dont agree with you For my hands they aren't any better or worse than other cameras.

http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-t20-will-shoot-4k-video/ If true its pretty major. I had the X-T10 and its a sweet, compact but very solid camera with major mojo and plenty of bells and whistles to go around. Ad better video and you have a winner! The video in the x-t10 was similar to the xt-t1, so ok but nothing for serious stuff. I did however shoot all the footage of the X100t with the X-t10 in this review. So it should have potential to be just as good as the X-T2. Only alot cheaper.

Always put what the lens is. The camera doesn't care what the working distance of that lens would be on other types of cameras. It only cares what lens it is. If using a speed booster though, then you need to adjust since the lens has changed. But it is still uninterested in what distance it would be to fill the frame of a person on some old 35mm film camera. So only reduce from the booster and leave "crop factor" out of it. It has no relevance

Before the A7s the best iso was an APS-C. It comes and goes and crop factor doesn't affect exposure. A 1" Rx100 kicks the ass of many older APS-C etc.

There is plenty of SDOF shots so I dont think its an action cam. Plenty of DR in some shots as well but I suspect no ND was used. Therefore I guess something small like a LX15 ot LX100.

Not trying to argue or start a discussion or anything, but what was the purpose of telling us that in this thread? Where did you hope the discussion would go besides the usual mind numbing "film vs digital" (even tough you know very well that one cant replace the other)?

Im sorry but this is the most naive thing Ive read 2017.

DR was good to.

I get that 100%. For me it is the biggest downsides to both the Pen-F and GX8.

Wittner Chrome?

Ok that answers it for sure What you are describing is a 12mm lens working exactly as it should and the marks seems to be spot on. A 12mm on for example a GH4 at f8 set to 80cm has a depth of field of 0.49m to 2.18m. So thanks for confirming that both the 12mm and 17mm works perfectly with the focus distance scales. All needed now is a 25mm and the system is good to go for the streets

Of course I know, but we are discussing lenses with a manual clutch only. All the other are irrelevant to the discussion. I do apologize for not specifying that I only meant prime lenses. So you only really have one of the lenses Now, with the 12mm. Are you saying that the 12mm f2.0 when set in manual using the distance scale to for example 3m isn't focusing at 3m. And that in fact it varies and seems to set at different distances from time to time? As I said, Ive never experienced it with the 17mm. But if the 12mm has that issue it would mean that there only is one native street photography lens with AF in the entire m4/3 system.... that would be a real bummer to say the least I guess the whole thing wouldn't bother me if it wasn't for the low cost of the gm1, gm5, lx100, etc. If only they would have had that scale on the display like Fuji, Leica, Canon alls seem to be able to implement without hiccups. Oh well, its clearly not happening so I won't take up more space in this thread and instead let it get back to what the camera actually can do. Thanks for the replies! /M

Several? I guess you mean that you have all three (12, 17 and 60mm)? What is te issue you have with their manual focus exactly? Are you saying that even though you disengage the electronic motor using the clutch they still some how breath or drift? I had the 17mm and never experienced this.

Maybe Kodakchrome could come back but it wont. What was it, 7 baths or something to process and an archival lifespan of just 20 years? I dont know many Hipsters that shoot film. Frankly I dont know any, they are a lazy bunch. It smore for people who really enjoy photography and film making as an art imo. I believe the reason its coming back is because after all these years digital still can't beat it. Digital is nice but film is nicer. Every time I watch a Blueray of any old movie I blown away of how much digital suck in comparison Also digital large format doesnt exist and medium format is still out of reach for most. A film MF is $7. (This of course depended on your definition of "better" and what aspect of image quality you rank highest.) Ps. Fun fact I heard but dont know if true, Fujifilms Instax division is currently their most profitable business... I know Im throwing money at them for my Instax printer

Best part is that Ektachrome is very easy to develop at home and s8 scanners are affordable or you can make a DIY. Timming is also good as I developed my last roll I had this summer